You cant just slap on ANY black person onto miles. There is such a thing as bad casting. Obviously afro latinos can be a variety of skin complexions, but miles is not, nor has he ever, been *visually* light skinned like marcus. Like, i'm sure we all wanna see marcus in a skin tight super suit, cuz thats all this conversation ever was to begin with, lets be real. But "miles is black, so let any black person play him" is such an ignorant take bro
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Literally go watch the episode about colorism in blackish and you'll see the issue
Listen…I want to deep throat Marcus’ dick until my eyes go in different directions then swallow the sperm from the very deepest part of his balls…but I don’t think he should be Miles Morales.
The character is very clearly dark-skinned. That fact is important. Miles Morales was created to be representative of an often over-looked demographic in comics. As an Afro-Latino, he could’ve been any skin tone, but his dark skin is important to the point of his character: an INTENTIONAL choice to shine light on stories from the world of dark-skinned, Afro-Latino people in urban American. So, choosing someone who doesn’t have that would not only defeat the purpose of the character, but it would echo the same issues America always has.
It’s exactly what white people in Hollywood did for years in selecting the type of Black person who would be acceptable to white audiences: one that isn’t “too Black” in skin tone. Marcus is so light-skinned, he can almost look white if he doesn’t get enough sun, and his eyes are grey-green. As much as we love him, choosing him for the character would be the exact thing that we should change: colorism.
And I definitely think that both dark-skinned women AND MEN face erasure, not just dark-skinned women. Choosing a light-skinned person like Marcus would still be erasure, even though Marcus has Black heritage. Miles Morales is about highlighting, uplighting, and representing dark-skinned people.
Then, from a story point of view, it wouldn’t work. Miles Morales is meant to be a teen. By the time they get to making the film, Marcus will probably be in his mid-20s or late-20s. He’ll be too old for the role. Also, Miles is a skinny spidery-built character. That was very intentional, as well. Marcus has been buffing up and is giving muscle-daddy lately. He could always slim down, but there’s still the issue of the character’s age.
I definitely want good roles for him, but I also want proper representation and fairness. Honestly, though, I don’t think he’s going to be hurting for roles. I mean…he’s starred in several movies outside of Blackish, both live-action and animation. He’s also taken over Grown-ish. So it’s clear that he’s got roles and opportunities coming in. I think that Disney keeps them under contract on how much they can do outside of those roles, so when the show is over, I think he’ll be able to select more. I don’t think he’s going to have any trouble getting anything.
The character is very clearly dark-skinned. That fact is important. Miles Morales was created to be representative of an often over-looked demographic in comics. As an Afro-Latino, he could’ve been any skin tone, but his dark skin is important to the point of his character: an INTENTIONAL choice to shine light on stories from the world of dark-skinned, Afro-Latino people in urban American. So, choosing someone who doesn’t have that would not only defeat the purpose of the character, but it would echo the same issues America always has.
It’s exactly what white people in Hollywood did for years in selecting the type of Black person who would be acceptable to white audiences: one that isn’t “too Black” in skin tone. Marcus is so light-skinned, he can almost look white if he doesn’t get enough sun, and his eyes are grey-green. As much as we love him, choosing him for the character would be the exact thing that we should change: colorism.
And I definitely think that both dark-skinned women AND MEN face erasure, not just dark-skinned women. Choosing a light-skinned person like Marcus would still be erasure, even though Marcus has Black heritage. Miles Morales is about highlighting, uplighting, and representing dark-skinned people.
Then, from a story point of view, it wouldn’t work. Miles Morales is meant to be a teen. By the time they get to making the film, Marcus will probably be in his mid-20s or late-20s. He’ll be too old for the role. Also, Miles is a skinny spidery-built character. That was very intentional, as well. Marcus has been buffing up and is giving muscle-daddy lately. He could always slim down, but there’s still the issue of the character’s age.
I definitely want good roles for him, but I also want proper representation and fairness. Honestly, though, I don’t think he’s going to be hurting for roles. I mean…he’s starred in several movies outside of Blackish, both live-action and animation. He’s also taken over Grown-ish. So it’s clear that he’s got roles and opportunities coming in. I think that Disney keeps them under contract on how much they can do outside of those roles, so when the show is over, I think he’ll be able to select more. I don’t think he’s going to have any trouble getting anything.
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All the debating aside, it’s time for Marcus to try more adult roles, why you all want to push him back into a teen lane is beyond me. We need something that he can get naked in.
R rated high school comedies and dramas are a thing Hollywood cast adults to play teens all the time
Miles is biracial let any biracial Afro Latino play him I can understand Marcus not bring Afro Puerto Rican but if I name an actual biracial Afro Latino like jharrel Jerome and all people can argue is that he’s too light that’s dumb to me
Miles was made by a white man him being dark skinned is not intentional it’s racist white people thinking we all look a like I know this because history afro biracial characters are never portrayed with varied skin complexions in comics miles is no exception
Storm should be dark skin 100 but miles honestly doesn’t matter as long as he’s biracial and Afro Puerto Rican y’all do know they will cast his mother too right if they cast a non Afro Puerto Rican’s woman with they most likely will do them miles will most likely be cast biracial and probably lighter skinned like red bone
They do, they are, he is, and jharrel jerome is VOICE ACTING. Being biracial doesnt just mean slap a color on him and go. Dark skin biracials exist, and your whole response is why its important.
In media they do not at all I’m literally dark skin myself I’m telling you we don’t face erasure In media
Being biracial means you can have any skin complexion and jharrel Jerome would be perfect for miles in live action
Light skin men deserve representation and Miles should be that representation biracials are a minority within a minority so if miles is one of the view characters to represent that neash he should portray it
Shamiek more is not biracial or Afro Latino but no one complains despite all of a sudden caring bout miles being dark skin
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Why don't you take it up with Marvel so they could create an actual lightskin Afro Latino hero then, instead of trying to make one of the few darkskin biracial heroes into a lightskinned one? The majority of biracial characters--superhero or otherwise--are depicted as being lightskinned or white passing and darkskins finally get a chance to shine and yall just want to make him light skin? Make it make sense.
You are uninformed on the topics of Miles Morales & the intention behind the character, as well as colorism & erasure. You would be benefitted by actually reading up on what the creators (plural, as it was two men and a woman) had to say.
Miles Morales’ Blackness was integral and intentional. The creators have said the character was created around the election of Barack Obama, and that had an inspiration, with the goal of specifically having a Black Spiderman. His dark skin was also intentional: there was already a Latino Spiderman before with Miguel O’Hara who was Mexican. The choice to make Miles Morales have dark skin was to highlight Blackness, which comes in diverse ways. Donald Glover also had a big influence on the character design.
All three of the creators of Miles Morales have been very clear on what Miles Morales was meant to represent, how he was meant to look, who he was meant to represent, etc.
Are there Afro-Latino people who have light skin? Yes. But this was very clearly supposed to be a dark-skinned person. He’s not just biracial. One has to look as his ancestry.
As an Afro-Latino, specifically of African/Puerto-Rican ancestry, it’s far more like that he would have darker skin. His heritage would primarily be native Taino (who typically have light brown to bronze skin) and African (generally West African and having dark skin). Most Afro-Latinos of African and Puerto Rican heritage are not going to be as light-skinned as Marcus Scriber.
Furthermore, Miles Morales was voices by Donald Glover and Jharrel Jerome. It’s clear what the goal has been.
If you’d like to actually be informed on this topic, I’d encourage you to read what the creators had to say:
Alex Alonso Interview
Sara Pinchelli Interview
Sara Pinchelli Interview 2
Where are your statistics or sources for the statement that Dark Skin men do not face erasure in the media? Certainly this bold statement is informed by data?
Show me the data that supports the assertion that dark-skinned men face no erasure, and that colorism and erasure only affects dark-skinned women.
I welcome sources, studies, or data with verified data.
I’m starting to believe you’re not serious when you make statements like this. Also, it’s “niche” not “neash”.
Because Shameik Moore is a voice actor. Voice actors get more leeway because they're providing a voice. For example, see the countless white actors who play black characters in animated events, or the many black actors who portray white characters, etc. Physical attributes don't matter in those contexts as much as it would in live action.
In any case, answer this: has Marcus expressed any interest in even playing Miles Morales? Any at all? You going harder for it than he is.
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