Mark e miller & ethan

I used to obsess with him. He’s good looking in his 20’s, but now he look way older than his real age.

for someone that don’t have full time job, need to stuck at office/retail/restaurant, he needs to take care his face.

you can check his older videos and see the differences
 
I used to obsess with him. He’s good looking in his 20’s, but now he look way older than his real age.

for someone that don’t have full time job, need to stuck at office/retail/restaurant, he needs to take care his face.

you can check his older videos and see the differences
They both are the type of guys who peaked in their 20s, and now age like milk in their 30s.
 
I was subscribed to his patreon until yesterday. Most recently on his podcast was
talking about how he’s going to tell the barber to not talk to him while they’re cutting his hair bc it affects the way his hair cuts turn out and he’s not interested in their lives. It was very out of touch with the way the people from different social classes live. Especially for someone who preaches be kind/ toxic positivity, it seems like he is actually very selective on who gets that side of him. The slut was a reference to the new gay Netflix show with that guy from how I met your mother. He went on a mini rant about that.

I think he knows he’s being a jerk.
Thank you for answering my question! That's interesting... Ironically, you're kinda tempting me to subscribe to his Patreon so that I can listen to his podcast and check for myself. :-D It's kinda hard to believe...
 
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I remember that during their first breakup video Mark looked heartbroken and from what I gathered it was Ethan who was the bad guy responsible for their breakup.

If mark was indeed abusive it changes the picture.
Abusers are known for making themselves appear innocent and their victims appear problematic. It's why so many people in these kinds of relationships feel trapped. Because the abuser has such a squeaky clean image, that no one can believe them to be capable of abuse. Whilst their victims are often accused of provoking the situation or exaggerating their abuse.
 
I was subscribed to his patreon until yesterday. Most recently on his podcast was
talking about how he’s going to tell the barber to not talk to him while they’re cutting his hair bc it affects the way his hair cuts turn out and he’s not interested in their lives. It was very out of touch with the way the people from different social classes live. Especially for someone who preaches be kind/ toxic positivity, it seems like he is actually very selective on who gets that side of him. The slut was a reference to the new gay Netflix show with that guy from how I met your mother. He went on a mini rant about that.

I think he knows he’s being a jerk.
He still does the podcast I see. When exactly will he grace the non-subscribers with the content?
 
Abusers are known for making themselves appear innocent and their victims appear problematic. It's why so many people in these kinds of relationships feel trapped. Because the abuser has such a squeaky clean image, that no one can believe them to be capable of abuse. Whilst their victims are often accused of provoking the situation or exaggerating their abuse.
Good point.
 
He still does the podcast I see. When exactly will he grace the non-subscribers with the content?
the video podcasts he did, it was like 2 or 3 episodes, didn't do well at all on youtube and he quit it right away. my guess is in these he shows a less curated version of himself that he's more comfortable sharing, because he assumes the people paying are big enough fans to not care about anything bad he says
 
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Since I’m still in on the podcast know, I should update you all. At least until the patreon subscription ends. He titled the latest podcast “Only fans.” In it he addresses the elephant in the room that is Ethan doing Onlyfans. I think he’s still under the impression that Ethan is only doing the artistic Onlyfans type content he was doing in the past. In a weird/crude roundabout way, he says that he doesn’t mind if people are “swinging their dicks around.” He claims he was going to put out a video titled OF on his YouTube page but didn’t want any speculation about Ethan. He also alludes to being hyper aware of that type of video getting more traction because… marketing.
He also says that people are allowed to “go through their phases.” Maybe it’s me, but it feels like an attempt to get back in Ethan’s graces. He also heavily implies that he grew up in a very conservative environment and that he himself still inevitably holds these views. He says that to his knowledge he’s not aware of Ethan doing anything sexual on his only fans. Something tells me he’s in for a rude awakening, and will probably be a little crushed by it.

so while Mark had previously done a little slut shaming in previous podcasts, he appears to have grown a bit since then. This warrants me eating my words just a little bit.
 
Since I’m still in on the podcast know, I should update you all. At least until the patreon subscription ends. He titled the latest podcast “Only fans.” In it he addresses the elephant in the room that is Ethan doing Onlyfans. I think he’s still under the impression that Ethan is only doing the artistic Onlyfans type content he was doing in the past. In a weird/crude roundabout way, he says that he doesn’t mind if people are “swinging their dicks around.” He claims he was going to put out a video titled OF on his YouTube page but didn’t want any speculation about Ethan. He also alludes to being hyper aware of that type of video getting more traction because… marketing.
He also says that people are allowed to “go through their phases.” Maybe it’s me, but it feels like an attempt to get back in Ethan’s graces. He also heavily implies that he grew up in a very conservative environment and that he himself still inevitably holds these views. He says that to his knowledge he’s not aware of Ethan doing anything sexual on his only fans. Something tells me he’s in for a rude awakening, and will probably be a little crushed by it.

so while Mark had previously done a little slut shaming in previous podcasts, he appears to have grown a bit since then. This warrants me eating my words just a little bit.
Lol hes in for a very rude awakening his precious ethan has turned in a lil cumslut
 
Since I’m still in on the podcast know, I should update you all. At least until the patreon subscription ends. He titled the latest podcast “Only fans.” In it he addresses the elephant in the room that is Ethan doing Onlyfans. I think he’s still under the impression that Ethan is only doing the artistic Onlyfans type content he was doing in the past. In a weird/crude roundabout way, he says that he doesn’t mind if people are “swinging their dicks around.” He claims he was going to put out a video titled OF on his YouTube page but didn’t want any speculation about Ethan. He also alludes to being hyper aware of that type of video getting more traction because… marketing.
He also says that people are allowed to “go through their phases.” Maybe it’s me, but it feels like an attempt to get back in Ethan’s graces. He also heavily implies that he grew up in a very conservative environment and that he himself still inevitably holds these views. He says that to his knowledge he’s not aware of Ethan doing anything sexual on his only fans. Something tells me he’s in for a rude awakening, and will probably be a little crushed by it.

so while Mark had previously done a little slut shaming in previous podcasts, he appears to have grown a bit since then. This warrants me eating my words just a little bit.
Mark is playing a part. The broey vanilla gay. And he's sticking to it. It's his brand. I don't believe for a second that he doesn't know Ethan's fucking and sucking on the internet (he more than likely gets trollish comments on all his yt/IG posts asking him how he feels) and I don't even think he cares (in the sense that he would be judgmental toward Ethan for doing it). Let's be real, here.
 
Honestly I’m not surprised that Ethan joined OnlyFans. What kind of job he’s been doing for the past years when he’s with Mark?

i’m seeing Mark doing most of the video productions etc. Even if they are have freelance jobs they are doing behind the scenes, I don’t think they can bear with the cost of living. They move out from LA because I think they cannot afford to live in this area anymore

Mark didn’t have a lot of viewers for his videos. Since both of them already broke up, Ethan need to be on his own finding money. Sorry for the bad english
 
Did Ethan get absolute no shared custody with the dog? That’s the only reason I imagine that they even would live in the same city.
Sadly, I don't think you can have shared custody with a dog. For both bureaucratic reasons and dogs' mental health reasons.