Mark e miller & ethan

I’ve never been able to reconcile Mark and Ethan’s lifestyle and supposed University qualifications with the lack of any consistency at anything that looked remotely like gainful remunerative employment.
Agreed. Clearly there is some sort of income coming from somewhere. Mark MIGHT make some kinda decent money from freelance work but from what I can tell he was also taking care of Ethan and they both lived quite well (nice flat, super nice car, clothes, ate well and had shit tons of expensive camera and video equipment etc). I get they do paid ads on YT and IG but I know lots of influencers and that rarely pays the bills. You need videos getting 300k+ views on a regular basis before you start seeing any decent money and since you're self employed your tax on that income is upwards of 60% (especially if you're living in California). Again, its not really any of our business anyway but it would be interesting to know.
 
Agreed. Clearly there is some sort of income coming from somewhere. Mark MIGHT make some kinda decent money from freelance work but from what I can tell he was also taking care of Ethan and they both lived quite well (nice flat, super nice car, clothes, ate well and had shit tons of expensive camera and video equipment etc). I get they do paid ads on YT and IG but I know lots of influencers and that rarely pays the bills. You need videos getting 300k+ views on a regular basis before you start seeing any decent money and since you're self employed your tax on that income is upwards of 60% (especially if you're living in California). Again, its not really any of our business anyway but it would be interesting to know.

Not sure what it's like in the UK, but nobody in the US pays 60% of their income in tax. The highest federal tax bracket is 37% on incomes well over $500k, and pretty much nobody pays even that.
 
I assume youtubers can write off a portion of their homes as work spaces, a few vids seem to be created just to make this case, what they wear, trips they take, things they buy for videos. I’m sure there are good tax accountants in CA that specialize in just this and one of the reasons to be there,
 
So Mark drops an apartment tour video and Ethan responds with an IG new apartment pic? Are the in competition? Ethan’s looks very interesting like an art loft with multiple levels, and possibly more expensive? Are we to understand that they are located in Indiana somewhere?
 
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unfortunately thats not correct. If youre making the kind of money we're talking about ($500k+) and self employed your tax bill is - barring exemptions and write offs.
- 37% Federal Tax
- 13% State Tax (california)
- 15.3% Self employment tax (for social security and medicaid)
= 65.3%
This also doesnt take into account any municipal taxes, property taxes etc.
Obviously if you've got a good tax accountant and are smart you can reduce that but it will still be 45%+ total tax paid. Point being, as one person has said, Mark hasnt shown anywhere near a good enough income source to pay for their lifestyle.

But I Digress....this isnt a tax thread so lets get back to sexy pics of Mark and Ethan. View attachment 31140491

Except tax brackets in the US are marginal, meaning that you would only pay the highest % on the money you earn over $500k. Your example is the absolute worst-case scenario, and anyone with any accountant—smart or not—would pay substantially less.
 
youtubers have known how to play the taxes game for years. almost everything they do ends up being a write off.
also, not all youtubers are considered self employed. a lot of youtubers create their own companies and have themselves as employees, that way they're not considered self employed and pay less in taxes. and yes, they all get away with what's basically tax evasion.

on the topic of ethan, he's looking hot af in those pics
 
I think it’s healthy and good they are both getting some time to shine on their own. They’ve been “Us” and “We” for like 7/8 years. I’m happy to see them on their own journeys and growing in new ways. Plus it means more content and they are both pretty dang talented at videos editing. Never fun to see people break up, but a failed relationship is something most of us in life go through. I think their next significant others will be even better off thanks to all the lessons they learned together as a couple as Mark and Ethan. Then we will all probably have more guys to thirst over, lol.
 
On a different note. I see Mark has unfollowed Ethan on IG but still has all their videos together still posted on his channel. Does anyone know if he were to delete most of his content (all his vids with Ethan) if that affects his channel in some way? Not saying he should but just curious if it would affect his channels earnings or anything.
 
On a different note. I see Mark has unfollowed Ethan on IG but still has all their videos together still posted on his channel. Does anyone know if he were to delete most of his content (all his vids with Ethan) if that affects his channel in some way? Not saying he should but just curious if it would affect his channels earnings or anything.
youtube would readjust his view total to take into account the views from those videos being "gone", but monetarily it wouldn't affect him
 
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Weird to have gotten all those random tattoos and probably related to your ex... Is laser removal in Mark's future?

Re: LA, I had the same theory about NYC; Couples that move to NYC are destined to die. Too many +1's walking around.
 
Doubt me all you want... I can picture Ethan being more sexually liberated and able to show off...I wouldn’t completely doubt OF. Mark I’d think he’d stick to cameras but I see Ethan having artistic potential on OF
 
Doubt me all you want... I can picture Ethan being more sexually liberated and able to show off...I wouldn’t completely doubt OF. Mark I’d think he’d stick to cameras but I see Ethan having artistic potential on OF
Ethans OF would be insanely popular and I agree he has the exhibitionist mindset thats perfect for it. But for some reason I don't really think he will do it. I would LOVE to proved wrong. There are other people out there that were against doing an OF only to end up doing them once they realized the earning potential. And with him now single and apparently building a living off of his sexy image.....who knows.
 
unfortunately thats not correct. If youre making the kind of money we're talking about ($500k+) and self employed your tax bill is - barring exemptions and write offs.
- 37% Federal Tax
- 13% State Tax (california)
- 15.3% Self employment tax (for social security and medicaid)
= 65.3%
This also doesnt take into account any municipal taxes, property taxes etc.
Obviously if you've got a good tax accountant and are smart you can reduce that but it will still be 45%+ total tax paid. Point being, as one person has said, Mark hasnt shown anywhere near a good enough income source to pay for their lifestyle.

But I Digress....this isnt a tax thread so lets get back to sexy pics of Mark and Ethan. View attachment 31140491



37% tax would be amazing smh.. There’s plenty of redistribution of wealth America just has a bunch of lazy losers that like to milk the system with fake disability and any government assistance they can get their hands on..
 
37% tax would be amazing smh.. There’s plenty of redistribution of wealth America just has a bunch of lazy losers that like to milk the system with fake disability and any government assistance they can get their hands on..
hun that's not just an american thing, it's a worldwide thing. i literally grew up knowing people who would only work by getting paid under the table so it wouldn't be registered to the irs and social security, so they'd still be collecting unemployment cheques and then go to social workers and ask for more financial help claiming the unemployment money isn't enough to cover the bills and put food on the table
 
on a more on topic note. today's vlog is him telling the story of how he went to jail for a day for underage drinking when he was 20.
most of the footage is from an old vlog from some summer he was visiting him family. i remember the part of the vlog where he's showing off the wall of pictures. and maybe i'm misremembering but ethan was in that vlog and i guess got edited out for this video
 
on a more on topic note. today's vlog is him telling the story of how he went to jail for a day for underage drinking when he was 20.
most of the footage is from an old vlog from some summer he was visiting him family. i remember the part of the vlog where he's showing off the wall of pictures. and maybe i'm misremembering but ethan was in that vlog and i guess got edited out for this video
I think we're going to be seeing more and more of that as he moves on from Ethan for good.
 
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