Mark E Miller

It's much more fun to think of Mark as a freak in the sheets. What do you think he's actually like in bed? Mega boring.

i mean based on Ethan's OF... I would say Mark's a pretty dominant top and he used to pound the shit out of Ethan. Like, do y'all still have this fantasy that up until now Ethan's been super vanilla and Mark doesn't have a big dick? lmao!
 
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i wish Mark would stop trying to be a "teacher" and just fucking be. Like, you're not this deeply intelligent individual. I'm so sorry, sis. Starting a "podcast" with your friend/ex-stan... just mess.

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i give him credit for trying....

in the podcast, he talks about twinks being hot now... his obsession with twinks is cringe especially considering he is getting older. Also no one cares for this fuck, marry, kill stupid game. I think this game would've been a hit when he was at his peak fame wise. He wasted years trying to portray this happy go lucky life for it to all come crashing down.
 
he really wants to have a successful podcast like those dudes on tik tok that constantly have clips go viral.
the only thing worth it from that video was mark admitting he's horny and needs some twink hole to fuck.
he says he's on the apps, mainly tinder, but only has been on 3 dates since joining it back in indiana.
i think it's interesting he said when his relationship with ethan wasn't doing well, he was trying to show to the camera that things were fine. like, my dude, you guys went on a break where he moved to a different apartment, but you kept spending all your time together, then started dating again and immediately moved to another state, and then broke up. you were not doing a very good job at hiding the relationship wasn't doing well
 
he really wants to have a successful podcast like those dudes on tik tok that constantly have clips go viral.
the only thing worth it from that video was mark admitting he's horny and needs some twink hole to fuck.
he says he's on the apps, mainly tinder, but only has been on 3 dates since joining it back in indiana.
i think it's interesting he said when his relationship with ethan wasn't doing well, he was trying to show to the camera that things were fine. like, my dude, you guys went on a break where he moved to a different apartment, but you kept spending all your time together, then started dating again and immediately moved to another state, and then broke up. you were not doing a very good job at hiding the relationship wasn't doing well
i think he meant even before the break and move, they might have been pretending much longer for the sake of their brand and channel
 
Despite his life being an open book in terms of being a YouTube influencer, it’s interesting how much he was able to hide about the demise and aftermath of his relationship that he’s now talking about. It really seems like it was quite messy, at least for him.

I get that for most of us, especially in the past, didn’t get to go through high school experiencing crushes, dating and relationships, especially a public factor of friends and family knowing and supporting us and we weren’t quite able to develop socially that way as many to most of our heterosexual peers did.

But I was openly Gay in the 80 during college and Mark was openly Gay at least the second half or 2/3 of college as well, and decades later in a more Gay friendly environment. But it seems like when it comes to romantic relationships and the give and take of them he’s didn’t socially mature at all, and his break up with Ethan left him about the level of an eleventh grade high school first love break up instead of a mature adult, which he was at the time.

It seems Ethan was a much more socially and emotionally mature person, despite the vibe of Mark seeming like he was the one in charge, more together and the leader in the relationship. I can see that conflict being something impossible to breach in trying to maintain a relationship. I think Mark was a very needy and insecure partner, and Ethan was more confident in the relationship and wanting independence.

They were very much at different levels of maturity, maybe the experience of growing up and working on a farm and even needing to come home and help when family situations arose gave Ethan a better understanding of responsibility and the tools to be an adult. While Mark socially and emotionally arrested and didn’t develop those skills.

Like the girl who married her high school boyfriend and builds her life all around them and never seems to grow beyond that and lived in a world of arrested development. And then is completely unprepared to deal with the world when her marriage ends at 25.
 
a guy he met in LA in 2016 or 2017... he was a fan and they met at thus rock climbing gym.


But he was saying he’s involved in the literary social media world, which I know a bit about and I have no idea who he is. I didn’t catch the last name and I was hoping someone would post to his YouTube channel or whatever platform he’s on.
 
Despite his life being an open book in terms of being a YouTube influencer, it’s interesting how much he was able to hide about the demise and aftermath of his relationship that he’s now talking about. It really seems like it was quite messy, at least for him.

I get that for most of us, especially in the past, didn’t get to go through high school experiencing crushes, dating and relationships, especially a public factor of friends and family knowing and supporting us and we weren’t quite able to develop socially that way as many to most of our heterosexual peers did.

But I was openly Gay in the 80 during college and Mark was openly Gay at least the second half or 2/3 of college as well, and decades later in a more Gay friendly environment. But it seems like when it comes to romantic relationships and the give and take of them he’s didn’t socially mature at all, and his break up with Ethan left him about the level of an eleventh grade high school first love break up instead of a mature adult, which he was at the time.

It seems Ethan was a much more socially and emotionally mature person, despite the vibe of Mark seeming like he was the one in charge, more together and the leader in the relationship. I can see that conflict being something impossible to breach in trying to maintain a relationship. I think Mark was a very needy and insecure partner, and Ethan was more confident in the relationship and wanting independence.

They were very much at different levels of maturity, maybe the experience of growing up and working on a farm and even needing to come home and help when family situations arose gave Ethan a better understanding of responsibility and the tools to be an adult. While Mark socially and emotionally arrested and didn’t develop those skills.

Like the girl who married her high school boyfriend and builds her life all around them and never seems to grow beyond that and lived in a world of arrested development. And then is completely unprepared to deal with the world when her marriage ends at 25.
great analysis... agree

its interesting how he didnt mature... bless him he has been slowly healing but he comes off very immature . I think Ethan was his first long term relationship... this is issue with long term young relationship... ppl live in these bubbles and they only spend time with their partner and never have the opportunity to engage with other ppl to grow and develop.... even work wise, mark lived a very insular close life that compromised of Ethan, his family, and YouTube (video making). He still desires a relationship that can capture that young love he had with Ethan and even someone close to their age at that time. I dont know if someone young could handle his needy demeanor. He wants to be the center of everything for everyone. He lost himself in that relationship. No community or friends....

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that is the guy
 
We don't know him. Also, why are people surprised?
Despite his life being an open book in terms of being a YouTube influencer, it’s interesting how much he was able to hide about the demise and aftermath of his relationship that he’s now talking about. It really seems like it was quite messy, at least for him.

I get that for most of us, especially in the past, didn’t get to go through high school experiencing crushes, dating and relationships, especially a public factor of friends and family knowing and supporting us and we weren’t quite able to develop socially that way as many to most of our heterosexual peers did.

But I was openly Gay in the 80 during college and Mark was openly Gay at least the second half or 2/3 of college as well, and decades later in a more Gay friendly environment. But it seems like when it comes to romantic relationships and the give and take of them he’s didn’t socially mature at all, and his break up with Ethan left him about the level of an eleventh grade high school first love break up instead of a mature adult, which he was at the time.

It seems Ethan was a much more socially and emotionally mature person, despite the vibe of Mark seeming like he was the one in charge, more together and the leader in the relationship. I can see that conflict being something impossible to breach in trying to maintain a relationship. I think Mark was a very needy and insecure partner, and Ethan was more confident in the relationship and wanting independence.

They were very much at different levels of maturity, maybe the experience of growing up and working on a farm and even needing to come home and help when family situations arose gave Ethan a better understanding of responsibility and the tools to be an adult. While Mark socially and emotionally arrested and didn’t develop those skills.

Like the girl who married her high school boyfriend and builds her life all around them and never seems to grow beyond that and lived in a world of arrested development. And then is completely unprepared to deal with the world when her marriage ends at 25.

How do you know this? Mark seems like his white Mid-Western counterparts. They also tend to live pretty insular lives. No shade, no tea. The only difference is that Mark is gay. Ethan seemed to never fit in much which is why his vibe is vastly different from Mark's.

If Mark was straight, I doubt that he would be different from what he is. He would be some mid-manager with a marriage and kids by now.

Why are you guys expecting him to have some otherworldly insight when his whole appeal is being the relatable man next-door type?
 
Despite his life being an open book in terms of being a YouTube influencer, it’s interesting how much he was able to hide about the demise and aftermath of his relationship that he’s now talking about. It really seems like it was quite messy, at least for him.

I get that for most of us, especially in the past, didn’t get to go through high school experiencing crushes, dating and relationships, especially a public factor of friends and family knowing and supporting us and we weren’t quite able to develop socially that way as many to most of our heterosexual peers did.

But I was openly Gay in the 80 during college and Mark was openly Gay at least the second half or 2/3 of college as well, and decades later in a more Gay friendly environment. But it seems like when it comes to romantic relationships and the give and take of them he’s didn’t socially mature at all, and his break up with Ethan left him about the level of an eleventh grade high school first love break up instead of a mature adult, which he was at the time.

It seems Ethan was a much more socially and emotionally mature person, despite the vibe of Mark seeming like he was the one in charge, more together and the leader in the relationship. I can see that conflict being something impossible to breach in trying to maintain a relationship. I think Mark was a very needy and insecure partner, and Ethan was more confident in the relationship and wanting independence.

They were very much at different levels of maturity, maybe the experience of growing up and working on a farm and even needing to come home and help when family situations arose gave Ethan a better understanding of responsibility and the tools to be an adult. While Mark socially and emotionally arrested and didn’t develop those skills.

Like the girl who married her high school boyfriend and builds her life all around them and never seems to grow beyond that and lived in a world of arrested development. And then is completely unprepared to deal with the world when her marriage ends at 25.
er... all this for Methan in 2024?

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We don't know him. Also, why are people surprised?


How do you know this? Mark seems like his white Mid-Western counterparts. They also tend to live pretty insular lives. No shade, no tea. The only difference is that Mark is gay. Ethan seemed to never fit in much which is why his vibe is vastly different from Mark's.

If Mark was straight, I doubt that he would be different from what he is. He would be some mid-manager with a marriage and kids by now.

Why are you guys expecting him to have some otherworldly insight when his whole appeal is being the relatable man next-door type?
It’s just their envy bitching. That’s all.
 
But he was saying he’s involved in the literary social media world, which I know a bit about and I have no idea who he is. I didn’t catch the last name and I was hoping someone would post to his YouTube channel or whatever platform he’s on.
i think he's on booktok. which is the side of tik tok that's all about books. that might be why you never heard of him
 
I hope this is the start of a new era for Mark. Like…time is moving. Quick it seems. I hope he finally sheds this “dignified masc” persona. Like…yes..talk about how horny you are, your fetishes, your type, your sex life, all of it. Sex sells and you’re a good looking guy. Use it, lol.
 
But he was saying he’s involved in the literary social media world, which I know a bit about and I have no idea who he is. I didn’t catch the last name and I was hoping someone would post to his YouTube channel or whatever platform he’s on.
He's @kevintnorman on IG. He was on The Kelly Clarkson Show last season for her book club.
 
... is this thread for real ? lol like whats wrong with yll , whats he ever done that was so bad ? why if yall hate him so much are u here or posting about him , dont watch m, dont follow its that simple
he seems like a good decent human who has helped a lot og lgbt people ofver the years accept themselves
like grow up
go outside
live ur own life coz damn some of these posts are pathetic trolling bullying and made up nonsence , damn