they were actually never like Mark. The twins had different style of filming and were doing documentary/travel videos always. Mark was more in the relationship based lane youtube video wise. He built a fanbase of horny gays. Not a loyal fanbase. His views are way down now bc he is no longer in a relationship or using his body. Other guys were smart enough to build brands based off of their big personality. Mark based his whole personality on being in a relationship. That's why he has been so list post breakup. He never figured out who he was while in a relationship.
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I dunno I have a hard time believing Ethan was abusive to Mark. I can easily see how he could've grown to resent Mark, and lashed out but not anymore than anyone else who has fallen out of love with someone.
The way i saw it is that Mark and Ethan's relationship was awesome when Ethan was following Mark's lead, but when the dynamic shifted it kinda went to shit. There are so many old videos where Ethan was annoyed when Mark would try to film him or purposely moved out of the way of shots. It was around that same time that Ethan started to post himself with lipstick on, and clearly was trying to explore himself in a nontraditional masculine way.... which is very opposite Mark's frat bro with a video cam who happens to be gay brand.
Ethan also initiated both breakups. Mark couldn't get a clue, and cornered him back into the relationship. It was obvious back then that Ethan fell out of love with Mark pretty soon after they moved to L.A. Even during their first breakup video, Mark kept saying that this was a needed break, but Ethan's body language was not having it. There were so many comments left on various videos where people either assumed they'd broken up or were thinking they were headed that way.
Anyways, I sympathize with Mark, it's not easy being the person that gets dumped. He genuinely seems like the type of person that loves hard, but the whole relationship was always Mark attempting to make Ethan a bro type gay when Ethan has always been a more feminine artsy studious type. The only reason anyone is surprised that Ethan did a 180 is because we were all seeing Ethan the way Mark wanted us to see him. So i hope Mark isn't delusional enough to think that he was being abused.
I like him more than Ethan, but that's a damn lie.We will never know for sure unless Mark tells us, and it honestly doesn’t matter anymore. All that matters is whether Mark learned from the mistakes that he might have made in that relationship so that he may not repeat them.I dunno I have a hard time believing Ethan was abusive to Mark. I can easily see how he could've grown to resent Mark, and lashed out but not anymore than anyone else who has fallen out of love with someone.
The way i saw it is that Mark and Ethan's relationship was awesome when Ethan was following Mark's lead, but when the dynamic shifted it kinda went to shit. There are so many old videos where Ethan was annoyed when Mark would try to film him or purposely moved out of the way of shots. It was around that same time that Ethan started to post himself with lipstick on, and clearly was trying to explore himself in a nontraditional masculine way.... which is very opposite Mark's frat bro with a video cam who happens to be gay brand.
Ethan also initiated both breakups. Mark couldn't get a clue, and cornered him back into the relationship. It was obvious back then that Ethan fell out of love with Mark pretty soon after they moved to L.A. Even during their first breakup video, Mark kept saying that this was a needed break, but Ethan's body language was not having it. There were so many comments left on various videos where people either assumed they'd broken up or were thinking they were headed that way.
Anyways, I sympathize with Mark, it's not easy being the person that gets dumped. He genuinely seems like the type of person that loves hard, but the whole relationship was always Mark attempting to make Ethan a bro type gay when Ethan has always been a more feminine artsy studious type. The only reason anyone is surprised that Ethan did a 180 is because we were all seeing Ethan the way Mark wanted us to see him. So i hope Mark isn't delusional enough to think that he was being abused.
I agree. I just thought it was interesting he liked it, considering the topic. He also could have liked it because he thought the guy was cute lol
BTW I totally forgot there was M&E thread so I'm sorry if it goes off topic of Mark only.tbh lots of people have seen that clip and liked it. it doesn't mean anything if you like it, it was just a touching video that went viral.IG Reel Mark liked this last week . Maybe tells a lot about his previous relationship? Interesting
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Unfortunately he is caught between the internet world and the rising sun of the dream state @JacksGap . Such is society
i dont get this comparison to the twins, they are straight and their brand has always been different from fanbase wise, access to brand deals, they are British too... and the twins never made their brand about
their sexuality
one of the twins went back to school too and got degrees
they are literally in different worlds
Mark is more comparable to Connor Franta
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This comparison makes absolutely zero sense to me.
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Lol....the end of his new video with his family on YT, on the Patreon version of the video it was him talking about his foot fetish and using WikiFeet to look up Shaun Mendes.
Shawn please let this man fuck you.
uh i thought his interest in miles was because he was a hot twink. never would've guessed it was a fetish thing
