This thread is very harsh on examples of poor or outright misleading measurement pics and vids, when such images are used to exaggerate and overestimate size. So how anyone can draw any kind of number from this example of hopless measuring is beyond me. If I was to say - "yep, pretty good proof of a 10" inch dick here" I would rightly be jumped upon a riddiculed. Yet nobody is picking up your "only 8.5", can you time-stamp where you see an accurate 8.5 please? (apologies if I am missing something).