i looked at the pic, it was a side measurement that typically adds 0.5 inch. If he were to push it even further down until it touch his body, it would add 1 - 1.5 inch. But there's no point in arguing i already know we both have a different idea of what a correct measurement is. You believe in bone pressed measurements so of course you would tend to over estimate when it comes to judging size even when judging Nbp size you have your own definition of it. lets just leave it at that we are all entitled to our own opinions and interpretations.