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Discussion in 'Underwear, Clothing, and Appearance Issues' started by jjsjr, Apr 16, 2010.
Naked models at MoMA exhibit are getting groped - NYPOST.com
What are your thoughts?
art is always subjective, but standing around naked while others are clothed for 'arts sake' is not art- not even performance art.
In the picture in the link the models are beautiful.
It's not a "please touch" exhibit according to the article. Anybody touching any model gets escorted out of MOMA by the security guards.
Having said that ... I'd like to say that
I see nothing wrong with live performance art.
Nor do I see anything wrong with nudity in art.
Therefore, live performance nude art is just fine.
I hate performance art that seems inherrently stupid
I dunno...some of us get pretty uptight about being naked. Maybe we need more nude performance art to reduce the occurrence of nudity angst!
Good idea. I donno where they find people who are good at this though. I tried modeling for art class one time and found it extremely uncomfortable to hold completely still for any length of time.
Just the idea that we have to blur out half their torso to cover their sexual bits (when porn is rampant) shows something about our culture.
"Love" the comment about not being able to take little kids to it. That's more about adults' silly projections than anything that does harm to kids.
We could start with those stupid performance artists who dress up like the Statue of Liberty, or a Greek statue, or some other iconic figure on the streets of major cities and get tipped for being a backdrop in a tourist's photo! Make them all naked...that's what I say.
It's about appearances. What is seen and what is unseen. If a kid can pull up people fucking with two [perhaps inadvertent] clicks of the mouse at home, the neighbors don't see that. But if naked humans are standing in plain sight in an art museum, batten down the hatches.
I KNOW! I'm a painting major, which requires me to take life drawing classes...and I always complained that the models moved too much...until I posed for a couple of friends for a homework assignment...
OMG...i had a sitting pose, and i found myself struggling to not move...granted, it was a complicated sitting pose...but you aren't aware as to how many muscles it takes to hold still until you HAVE to...
it's a new-found respect for our art models
One of the great experiences of my life was posing naked for a Spencer Tunick installation with 4,000 other naked people in the centre of a City - no harm came to anyone, other than the clothed protester who was dragged away by the police!
That should be something to see I hope it travels to Los Angeles
I posed for art classes while in college. It is a very strange experience for the model and often painful. However I found substances that helped! LOL anyway there was little touching just the request to move this way or that. There were lots of offers for coffee, which was probably the best part. What would really give me pause was when a student would choose just a body part. A hand, foot, abs, or of course the penis. It's intimidating for someone to be studying any part of your body so intensely, especially a private part. After two or three times you sort of forget that you're the only naked guy in the room.
Was it undergrad level? I feel like as an undergrad myself, I'm going to take advantage of the luxury of a nude model and draw the whole figure...not just parts which I can draw off of anyone (ie hands/feet)
I've participated in a Spencer Tunick photo, and I've posed for shirtless photos, but I've never posed for an art class. I don't know if I'd go crazy from not being able to move, but I'd love to try it. Maybe not with an entire museum of people walking around though.
I'd love to pose nude
interesting. some sculpture is often touched to understand it...it is presented that way. these are not but i can see why people would do it.
as a nude model, i am 100000% jealous of the models who got to take part in this. even dealing with the public in this new frontier is sort of part of the art.... you never get to ask a painting how it feels to be looked and laughed at!