The thing to remember is to not put any real stock in what people who charge you money to watch them have sex tell you about their sexual orientation. Some people have made porn such a center of their world that they genuinely believer interchangeable sex workers are going to cause waves of conversions or homophobia if they start taking money to have sex with women instead of taking money to have sex with men.
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Lol no if straight male actors do something similar to derek kage or cole connor etc it would immediately end their career, the straights won't have it at all.
There have been some, like Rocco Reed. They aren't as common and it's often done at the time they are leaving the industry (the same is true for some gay porn performers who start doing porn with women).
The biggest change in the last 5 or so years is the actors who film sex with other men but still work with straight studios, like Pierce Paris or Dante Colle.
Derek kage isn't retiring, is he? and so other gay porn stars that do women now like Cole Connor, Kane Fox, dillon diaz etc
Pierce Paris isn't mainstream enough name, he has a niche in femdom or something. Dante Colle hasn't made gay studio work since he went the straight route, all of them have been re-releases.
Also Pierce Paris and Dante Colle started in gay porn too so the straight audience had their warning.
What doesn't happen is someone who is established in straight porn like Scott Nails, Alex Jones, Vince Karter posts that they crave dick in their socials and then claimed that they're still straight, blaming their audience for being bi-phobic/queerphobic like Derek Kage, Cole Connor et al did.
What doesn't happen is someone who is established in straight porn like Scott Nails, Alex Jones, Vince Karter posts that they crave dick in their socials and then claimed that they're still straight, blaming their audience for being bi-phobic/queerphobic like Derek Kage, Cole Connor et al did.
Paris has also just done plain old videos with women. There are some other guys too, I can't remember their names as they tend to be in those generic stepmother/stepsister type videos.
Some guys manage to switch to bi and others just do it briefly and then mostly disappear (like Wesley Woods or Drew Dixon).
I don't really think anyone would argue that there's a double standard. There have been some changes over the last decade, and probably more as the industry continues to collapse, but there's always going to be a double standard.
and where is this change now? nothing has changed, conversion therapy has only been pointed to one direction all this time and that's the gay community.
"Conversion therapy," if you want to call it that, is still much, much more common in other types of porn - straight women suddenly becoming into women or gay men seducing straight men - than it is with gay men and women. That's also what is seen much more than the social media posts of porn performers. I don't really think what a sex worker rambles on about on their social media is conversion therapy.
Lesbian porn is for straight guys while gay men seducing straight men are for gay men. Where is the conversion therapy if it is for their exact audience.
If it's as you said why NO STRAIGHT MALE ACTORS has done what Derek Kage etc etc did, I mean it's a whole village of GAY porn stars who proudly say that they crave pussy. Where is the straight version of that?
The conversion therapy aspect is the biggest part of the fantasy. Playing to the idea that gay men can somehow turn straight men. You could say oh it's fine as long as you aren't trying to convert the people who are watching, but it's still treated as conversion therapy.
I don't see gay male porn performers saying they enjoy pussy, however many even do that, as conversion therapy, especially since as so many here love to point out, many of them aren't even gay, and because most of what they are saying is about themselves, not telling all other gay men that they can love pussy or whatever else.
Most of these are also niche, as so much is niche now - the days of porn stars are mostly long gone.
It is conversion therapy if it's only pointed at a particular group of people that do not enjoy it. This is why I keep writing about why BIG NAMES STRAIGHT MALE PORN STARS have never done this. A point that you always attempt to sidestep. There are only 2 sides in everything and you side with the oppressor.
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I'm not sidestepping your point. I have agreed with you that most straight male porn stars don't do this. I just don't see it as oppression. I don't believe a sex worker, who is, as mentioned here by others many times, often not identifying as gay in the first place, is oppressing a gay man by going on social media and saying they love pussy. I don't believe this is conversion therapy. If you don't like the content on the sex worker's page, you can just stop following their content. It's not anywhere near that simple with actual conversion therapy, which destroys lives, and in a number of cases, ends them.
ZERO big straight male porn star does this so your whole don't follow that page don't hold much weight since the straights won't do that to their own straights...and yes IF one big straight male porn star does this exact same thing, it would be labeled as CONVERSION THERAPY by the masses and that page would disappear like a snap.
So it's not the meaning of conversion therapy like you suggested.
I don't think it would be labeled as conversion therapy by the masses either. Rocco Reed switched from straight to gay porn and no one accused him of trying to convert straight men. They just thought that he was desperate.
The masses, whoever that may be, often have strange views about porn and what influence it is supposed to have. I've seen a number of right wing men online who believe that porn exists to numb straight men and lead them to try anything to start feeling something again sexually, ultimately leading them to turn gay.
If you want to talk about how queer male sex workers who have sex with ftms or women may not treat their audience with enough respect compared to straight male sex workers who never go near men, I'm sure many would agree with you. I still don't see it as conversion therapy.
That's because of who Rocco Reed has become now he's gone all hallelujah now. All straight porn stars that have done gay porn early in their career have swore off it and never coming back. While gay porn stars that crave pussy are different they do gay porn with straight porn simultaneously.
Trans is a different niche I think the straights think so too they're fine with it as long as it's a different category so it should be kept separate with gay porn too. But ofc conversion therapy...
You're missing the point. Gay men who watch gay porn where a straight man is seduced into sexuality would also be unlikely to say it's ok for a man to be forced into homosexuality in real life. It's a fantasy, it's not conversion therapy.
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