Our fascination with Madonna

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I was watching the "Hung Up" video for the umpteenth time and I was positively transfixed. For those who do like Madonna, what is it? For me, she's the bad girl big sister I always wished I had. Why do you think she's so popular?
 
Wasn't she quoted at one time, saying that she felt she's a gay man trapped in a woman's body? (but she might have cribbed that line from someone else)

I think there is some truth to the notion that she was the importer of styles and sounds from outside the mainstream (gay club culture) and the consummate re-packager and interpreter to the masses. A dynamo.

And when popular culture collides with sensibilities that outrage it or prick its collective epidermis the glutinous protazoan expands to engulf it and makes it a benign part of itself. Resistance is futile.:wink:
 
Good performer, yes (I didn't say good singer!!!) shrewd business woman, absolutely. I do admire her for those qualities. But I can take or leave her, and if it is take, it has to be in small doses. Fascinated or transfixed? Not by any stretch of the imagination.
 
Good performer - maybe in a hoochie koochie show.

She's a poor man's version (and not a very good one) of the Divine Miss M, who has taken trash to new heights:

You leave a Madonna performance with your ears ringing and your psyche scrambled.

You leave a Bette Midler performance with admiration and your facial muscles ache from laughing.
 
I remember seeing her for the first time on American Bandstand and my dad commenting how much she sucked and would never make it in the music industry. 20+ years later she is still a pop icon and music legend.

I've always liked her music - it tends to be edgy, hip and fun. She's not the best singer, nor do I necessarily agree with her politics, but she knows how to put out good music.

I think part of her allure is that while she has a 'wholesome' name, she portrays herself in a sexual manner 'behind the scenes'. Many men like that in their women - a lady in public and a whore in bed. This duality coupled with good catchy music makes for a successful formula which she has benefited from.
 
RideRocket said:
I remember seeing her for the first time on American Bandstand and my dad commenting how much she sucked and would never make it in the music industry. 20+ years later she is still a pop icon and music legend.

I've always liked her music - it tends to be edgy, hip and fun. She's not the best singer, nor do I necessarily agree with her politics, but she knows how to put out good music.

I think part of her allure is that while she has a 'wholesome' name, she portrays herself in a sexual manner 'behind the scenes'. Many men like that in their women - a lady in public and a whore in bed. This duality coupled with good catchy music makes for a successful formula which she has benefited from.

At the end of that fateful American Bandstand appearance, Dick Clark asked her what her plans were and she replied "I wanna rule the world".
 
because you guys will do & buy everything your corporate masters tell you.
if MTV wanted to i bet they could sell a CD of me farting for a hour.
can she sing:no
can she dance: no
is she hot: no

this also goes for about 99% of all the female singers out there.

you people make me sick.

PS buy my CD
 
I've spent my time worshipping at Madonna's altar and I might still if her music weren't going down the tubes.
 
I dunno, but I FELL IN LOVE when she rolled around the stage in the white lace wedding dress and have been an UBER fan ever since. I personally think that <talent aside> people like her because she has always been overtly sexual and didn't care if she was <because she's a woman> perceived as a 'ho. In other words - she gave credence to all us 'hos...

LOVE HER

**though Tina Turner is the bomb diggity diva too**
 
I love her work and I think her videos are the best ever made (have a collection on DVD.) But as a person, I think she's too much of a diva for my taste.
 
I dont like her or most popular artists/popular music (current ones at least). Her songs are a bit too girly for me lol, like Like A Virgin and the one about a prayer...Prince is a real talent, despite the girly pitch of his singing voice :DSo are Hall And Oates. And...
 
Speaking of which... I have actually made some gay men angry before, just simply by saying that I am not a big fan of Madonna, Cher, Babs, Bette, Judy, Patti, or any of the other "great gay divas." Why do some guys harbor such animosity if I don't share their love of gay bar music? Some of it is just dreadful. Yes, it does have a boom-boom ("good dance music"). But I know guys that have the albums at home and listen to them as if it were real music. Uh, if the big excuse is that it is good dance music, well, then, uh, fine - that does not mean good listening music.

Can anyone explain to me the aggressive defense?
 
My uncle has a Labbi Sifre album *shudder* now thats bad lol. But I spose each to their own, I really like the music I listen to. Not many other people do though :p
 
DC_DEEP said:
Speaking of which... I have actually made some gay men angry before, just simply by saying that I am not a big fan of Madonna, Cher, Babs, Bette, Judy, Patti, or any of the other "great gay divas." Why do some guys harbor such animosity if I don't share their love of gay bar music? Some of it is just dreadful. Yes, it does have a boom-boom ("good dance music"). But I know guys that have the albums at home and listen to them as if it were real music. Uh, if the big excuse is that it is good dance music, well, then, uh, fine - that does not mean good listening music.

Can anyone explain to me the aggressive defense?

Maybe it's because those particular artists are so easy for men to imitate? :twak:
 
It's no secret that I don't care for Moo, and I wish she were over. She's not my least favourite so-called singer: Britney holds that honour. Moo is not a good singer, not a great dancer, not a beautiful face, not any kind of actress, but she does have a talent: she knows how to package herself. She knows how to keep people shocked and interested despite her otherwise mediocre abilities in the field of entertainment. What kills me is hearing her in a recent interview: "I wish people would stop thinking of me in a sexual light." Excuse me?! :wtf1: Maybe you should have thought about that before you walked down the streets of New York City buck naked, had photos taken, and had then published in a book called SEX. I know you'rea mother now, but that doesn't mean you're not as big a ho as you ever were. Like a virgin, my ass ... like she'd know.

"You don't like Madonna?! Maybe you're a latent heterosexual?" No way. I do like Babs, Judy, Bette, Liza, Eartha, Cher, Janis, Patti and Lady Day.