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Is it ever OK to out pornstar messages? if they are contacted in private and say bigoted stuff? I think it is. Why not? I had a friend who was Jewish, and she contacted this porn star on a hook-up and she said lots of anti-Semitic stuff in DMs. So she posted it online, and it got back to the star, and lots of her colleagues were dissing her online. I don't see the issue. peolpe will whine over the "lack of freedom". that's bs. in some countries, it's illegal to say slurs to others. In other places, it's fighting words, quite literally. And if anybody in a public posiiton doens't like it, then mind your ps and qs. it is what it is.
 
No, I think if someone says something which is out of order, you're entitled to set them straight and have a positive duty to do so. However "outing" them by naming them and repeating what they've said on social media, could expose you to all manner of legal risks and is simply not worth it in my view.
 
No, I think if someone says something which is out of order, you're entitled to set them straight and have a positive duty to do so. However "outing" them by naming them and repeating what they've said on social media, could expose you to all manner of legal risks and is simply not worth it in my view.
What risks? Defamation? Not when it's been proven to have been said. Loss of potential earnings? How again? When they've proven to do something? if they're caught shoplifting and the store owner catches them on their CCTV and shows it publicly, is that also a loss of earning when one can identify it's them?
Funny how Californians mix weird inner beliefs with actual laws.
 
My Lord, I am in England. I just don't think the potential risks are worth any perceived benefits. As I said previously, if someone (pornstar or otherwise) says something out of order, you have the right and indeed the positive duty to set them straight. However outing them and repeating the stupid thing they said is a different matter and, as older man who's been around a while, I would advise not going there.
 
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My Lord, I am in England. I just don't think the potential risks are worth any perceived benefits. As I said previously, if someone (pornstar or otherwise) says something out of order, you have the right and indeed the positive duty to set them straight. However outing them and repeating the stupid thing they said is a different matter and, as older man who's been around a while, I would advise not going there.
There is no provision in English law for this. No lost earnings.
English law, if you are indeed British, focuses on repsonsibility. then don't say bad shit. simple.
 
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This is an interesting question. I’m not sure what American legal precedent or theory exist for it, but I would imagine they could sue for slander if a private communication went public. I imagine if you make a personal exchange public without the other person‘s consent, there could be some legal recourse. I would liken it similar to a person sharing a nude photo that was only meant for that person.
 
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Is it ever OK to out pornstar messages? if they are contacted in private and say bigoted stuff? I think it is. Why not? I had a friend who was Jewish, and she contacted this porn star on a hook-up and she said lots of anti-Semitic stuff in DMs. So she posted it online, and it got back to the star, and lots of her colleagues were dissing her online. I don't see the issue. peolpe will whine over the "lack of freedom". that's bs. in some countries, it's illegal to say slurs to others. In other places, it's fighting words, quite literally. And if anybody in a public posiiton doens't like it, then mind your ps and qs. it is what it is.
Why did you come here and ask a question, when you clearly have your own mind made up??
There is an assumption, not legally binding but human respect, that when you say something to one person, that it the only person you are saying it to. At least in the adult world. Perhaps someone is offended by perceived bigotry, but someone else decides something is racist. If I tell someone that I had sex, at an apple, have a toothache, or voted left, I'm "risking" that info being spread, but that's not the same as assuming it will be shared, or that it's ok. It's NOT ok to out anyone, ever!
 
Why did you come here and ask a question, when you clearly have your own mind made up??
There is an assumption, not legally binding but human respect, that when you say something to one person, that it the only person you are saying it to. At least in the adult world. Perhaps someone is offended by perceived bigotry, but someone else decides something is racist. If I tell someone that I had sex, at an apple, have a toothache, or voted left, I'm "risking" that info being spread, but that's not the same as assuming it will be shared, or that it's ok. It's NOT ok to out anyone, ever!
Would you say the "...NOT ok to out anyone, ever..." applies to situations involving harm or hypocrisy? For example, there are several examples of conservative politicians who were pretending to be straight but who were actually closeted; voting against rights for gay people to keep getting reelected. Would you not be OK with outing that person?
 
Even though it's difficult, I would still say NOT to out. If an activity is illegal, that is different and for the police to pursue. But I do believe they have to right to be stupid and hypocritical, even if I don't agree.
It's a slippery slope otherwise, because that can include everyone/everything . What if the "outing" is false? It can and does happen. People have lost their career by being falsely accused, burned at the stake, in some cases imprisoned, and etc. I believe the KKK has the right to exist, in thoughts, but not actions. It doesn't mean I support them.
 
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Why did you come here and ask a question, when you clearly have your own mind made up??
There is an assumption, not legally binding but human respect, that when you say something to one person, that it the only person you are saying it to. At least in the adult world. Perhaps someone is offended by perceived bigotry, but someone else decides something is racist. If I tell someone that I had sex, at an apple, have a toothache, or voted left, I'm "risking" that info being spread, but that's not the same as assuming it will be shared, or that it's ok. It's NOT ok to out anyone, ever!
You seem to get off on lecturing. You hold no right to lecture me. or to dictate how people use common online spaces, unless you hold specific authority. seems your buff body has affected your brain.
Also, your point is false. People can disclose inappropriate things. Even if it IS appropriate, trust can be breached. I completely disagree with your lecturing of online spaces, and views of human discourse.
 
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Even though it's difficult, I would still say NOT to out. If an activity is illegal, that is different and for the police to pursue. But I do believe they have to right to be stupid and hypocritical, even if I don't agree.
It's a slippery slope otherwise, because that can include everyone/everything . What if the "outing" is false? It can and does happen. People have lost their career by being falsely accused, burned at the stake, in some cases imprisoned, and etc. I believe the KKK has the right to exist, in thoughts, but not actions. It doesn't mean I support them.
I disagree. If a person can be proven to be said, so what? Then take care in what one does. Have aforethought. That's a reasonable "expectation" in adult behaviour, to paraphrase your point. What does the KKK have to do with anything?

Do you go into McDonald's and tell people what to order? Seems you might if that'show you engage in public online spaces. If you justify or even adovate for said conduct, then you're more off your rocker than one posits.
 
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You seem to get off on lecturing. You hold no right to lecture me. or to dictate how people use common online spaces, unless you hold specific authority. seems your buff body has affected your brain.
Also, your point is false. People can disclose inappropriate things. Even if it IS appropriate, trust can be breached. I completely disagree with your lecturing of online spaces, and views of human discourse.
You started this ridiculous topic with a question. I stated my opinion. That's not a lecture. Buy a dictionary. Also, learn morals, laws, and history. Fools never run out of style. Blocking your ass...
 
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You started this ridiculous topic with a question. I stated my opinion. That's not a lecture. Buy a dictionary. Also, learn morals, laws, and history. Fools never run out of style. Blocking your ass...
no, i started it as a base point. Which seems to trigger you massively. Though tbh, i blocked you since you're clearly a retard with no real life engagement and weak social understanding. You cannot tell me or others what to do, nor assume others must engage your subjective and whimsical preferences. peoepl generally shouldn't be bigoted. so if this is outed, so be it. why is it "unetical"? dont be bigoted. simple.
It's a loser grown "man" who assumes the world reflcets his own petty needs. I know you'll get vexed to high heaven in reading this. good. i'm hoping it does! since you have this ghetto desire to be universally loved, as part of your innate weak social/human understanding. you don't shrug shit off and want absolute adulcation from all! WEAK! What do morals, laws and history have to do. with anything? "morals" say that bigotry is unethical. Laws cite that outing personal messages isn't illegal, depending on context. You don't even know how to formulate arguments. I guess it's part of your egocentric, childlike and abnormal social understanding.

I stand by it's unethical. and yes, legally and morally it's permissible to out said messages. It's not defamation. And people shouldn't be bigoted. if you're bigoted, so be it. But as you have a right to your views, others can respond. And? Learn some responsibility then. If my view is too conservative for you, so be it. Don't be a pussy and get along in life as a man/adult. or whatever you are.
 
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Would you say the "...NOT ok to out anyone, ever..." applies to situations involving harm or hypocrisy? For example, there are several examples of conservative politicians who were pretending to be straight but who were actually closeted; voting against rights for gay people to keep getting reelected. Would you not be OK with outing that person?
yes, out them. it's not defamation.
 
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This is an interesting question. I’m not sure what American legal precedent or theory exist for it, but I would imagine they could sue for slander if a private communication went public. I imagine if you make a personal exchange public without the other person‘s consent, there could be some legal recourse. I would liken it similar to a person sharing a nude photo that was only meant for that person.
Online communication is libel. And if it can be proven to true so be it.
 
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