Ryan Guzman

[mark21]

I actually agree with part of this. Fans shouldn’t bully or harass a show runner or the actors into making a ship canon, and there’s a point where fandom needs to accept that a story isn’t going where they want it to, but I don’t think the responsibility is entirely on the fans either. If a show runner knows a ship has a huge following and continues to play into that ambiguity, make suggestive comments, or tease the possibility of it becoming something more, they can’t be surprised when fans interpret that as encouragement.

That’s why I think Buddie is a little different from your Supernatural example. There’s been enough intentional ambiguity and teasing around Buck and Eddie that I don’t think it’s unreasonable for fans to wonder if the show is actually going somewhere with it. If the answer is ultimately no, OK, but at some point the people running the show have to be clear about that rather than benefiting from the engagement the speculation creates.

And I also think there’s a double standard with canon and shipping. May and Ravi were a fandom ship that became canon within a couple of episodes last season, and nobody acted like fans were “destroying the show” for wanting it. So I don’t think shipping itself is the problem. It’s when fans cross the line into harassment or entitlement. Fans are responsible for how they behave, but creators are responsible for the expectations they’re helping create.

Sorry for the long post. Here’s a picture of than to make up for it.
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Fully agree!! I don’t think fans are entitled to anything ever. Writers ultimately decide and if you don’t like what you see you can just change the channel. But the show made deliberate choices in the last seasons to tease “things” on social media or make “un-intentional” romantic parallels that where in hindsight intentional and even confirmed by the showrunner only to never go ahead with any of that and instead leave fans wondering why they made that plot choice to begin with if they didn’t want to go ahead with it …i would call that baiting-adjacent because Tim and the writers and the cast as well, all clearly know what they’re doing. I mean at the end of the day it’s the buddie people paying Ryans and Olivers convention meet and greets so

 

[bigboaster]

I actually agree with part of this. Fans shouldn’t bully or harass a show runner or the actors into making a ship canon, and there’s a point where fandom needs to accept that a story isn’t going where they want it to, but I don’t think the responsibility is entirely on the fans either. If a show runner knows a ship has a huge following and continues to play into that ambiguity, make suggestive comments, or tease the possibility of it becoming something more, they can’t be surprised when fans interpret that as encouragement.

That’s why I think Buddie is a little different from your Supernatural example. There’s been enough intentional ambiguity and teasing around Buck and Eddie that I don’t think it’s unreasonable for fans to wonder if the show is actually going somewhere with it. If the answer is ultimately no, OK, but at some point the people running the show have to be clear about that rather than benefiting from the engagement the speculation creates.

And I also think there’s a double standard with canon and shipping. May and Ravi were a fandom ship that became canon within a couple of episodes last season, and nobody acted like fans were “destroying the show” for wanting it. So I don’t think shipping itself is the problem. It’s when fans cross the line into harassment or entitlement. Fans are responsible for how they behave, but creators are responsible for the expectations they’re helping create.

Sorry for the long post. Here’s a picture of than to make up for it.
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I do mostly agree with your post but there is something I'm curious about. Fans keep talking about the idea of crumbs of Buddie existing through the show showing a potential coupling . But have there even been any examples of episodes that suggest Eddie is even attracted to men (other guys, and not Buck)

 

[southernjock]

Can we please take TV show discussion to the tv threads and not the actor threads? It's just going to create ten pages of arguments about things that aren't about the actor.

 

[Birussy]

Him and Oliver are the hottest men in the show from the first ever episode i had a crush on Oliver then this man entered the show now iv got a crush on him to

yall are gonna get the damn thread locked, stop talking about him

 

[Dazadam1994]

its a thread about ryan what are we meant to do just think about him and never talk about him on hear

 

[Shy_Guy93]

its a thread about ryan what are we meant to do just think about him and never talk about him on hear

They're not talking about Ryan, the other person who is his costar is on the dnp list. Talking about that person can get you banned and the thread locked if you keep talking about him.

 

[Javard1985]

Ryan seems lighter after the divorce sure, he just seems like he's figuring out what to share and what not to share with the internet. I think the entire thing with his ex and him defending her did a lot of damage to him and nothing to her as such, he is slowly returning to posting semi regularly now so hopefully he's less wary of people cussing him out everytime he says or does anything online.

His outfits at the cons he did were certainly something else and that's a part of him, as much as all the machismo and the MMA is also a part of him. He seems happy and content with his life as it is now.

Whether he sucks cock, services glory holes, eats ass, gets his ass ate, gets fucked or fucks is none of our business. We can speculate, we can have theories etc, but none of us have any proof of anything so it's just that speculation.

The important thing is he keeps slutting out from time to time at various cons so we get some nice images and videos added to this thread.

Bring on the season 10 BTS soon

I think it was more like a common law marriage. But I agree.

 

[Javard1985]

I been saying Buddie is never going to happen. That why I stopped watching the show last season. The show not even good anymore like it used to be.

 

[GaySy82]

Killing off Bobby was a really bad idea

 

[Shy_Guy93]

 

[Rikk43]

Killing off Bobby was a really bad idea

The gay baiting is so insane and everyone Falls for it. Eddie dancing in his underwear for feeling free buck opens the door they sit down and drink a beer. Like wtf….. what was that storyline for and then we never mention it again ….

 

[AsukaIttoHiroto]

 

[bbbbbbian]

in Ryan’s defense the boner part comes very late in the video so he might not have watched the whole thing and seen the chicks first and liked it for that. Also, I can see Gabriel Prensena has liked this post too but that’s a different conversation ahah

no this is literally the opening of the video, and it's there from the opening

 

[bbbbbbian]

Honestly, it seems like people on this thread are way more concerned about his sexuality than he appears to be. The amount of analysis people do over every post is wild.

wonder why people are obsessed with if he's gay on a large penis support group, surely we should talk about open heart surgery in here

 

[bbbbbbian]

can y'all stop talking about the show and the ship and start talking about his ass?

 

[ELMLikes]

wonder why people are obsessed with if he's gay on a large penis support group, surely we should talk about open heart surgery in here

OK?

 

[AsukaIttoHiroto]

Just a little throwback. This guy doesn't have an ugly phase at all.

 

[ELMLikes]

Just a little throwback. This guy doesn't have an ugly phase at all.
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Some people are just blessed.
Look at him… I hate him

 

[Shy_Guy93]

 

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