Or he can date whoever he wants secretly without his family and the internet knowing.
Saif Shawaf
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Cool well you’re wrong and I’m not lying. The only reason I am aware of any sort of tiktokker is because Grindr the gay community is a small one and I recognized Saif by face and name the moment i saw him on an Instagram reel. Didn’t even know he was closeted. I said “look babe it’s Saif” to my partner who also instantly recognized him.
Not to mention I have a friend who has fucked him and another who is friendly with him. So idk who tf you are and who you are getting your info from.
Anyone in Toronto around 2018 (before he was “famous”) would agreed with me including my arab friends who I’ve gone to pride with and haven’t been disowned by their families.
Kay. I’ve lost the will to argue with people a long time ago, so whatever…
Lmao every time I come in this thread there's someone claiming a friend of a friend has fucked him 
some of you gotta be lying
some of you gotta be lyingKay. I’ve lost the will to argue with people a long time ago, so whatever…
lol ok then don’t just spew a bunch of doubt at me for no reason. I’m not lying
I dont think he is gay, is really really difficult to find gay or bi arabs even in Western countries
IF he is gay, no matter how hard it is, no matter what kind of relationship he chose to be, he's still gay. Even if he marry a girl and have a kids, it won't change his sexuality.
Dude… WHAT?! LMAO!
You do realize that ethnicity and sexuality are two COMPLETELY separate things that are in no way correlated whatsoever, right?
I can assure you there are plenty of gay/queer Arabs both in the Middle East and in western countries, and I am one such example.
I’m Lebanese and I’m gay af. Also pretty much every single one of my friends (both men and women included) is queer. You might think we don’t exist because most of us are closeted, but trust me, we do and in huge numbers.
Wow that's imprevise, and how is it feel to be gay in Lebanon (btw i'm bi and latino but living in America)
I’ve lived pretty much my entire life in Lebanon, but I currently live in Canada.
Of course, Lebanon isn’t nearly as progressive as Canada when it comes to LGBTQ+ rights, but it’s honestly not bad at all. I’m out and proud to almost all of my friends, though not to my family. Still, I’m very lucky to have progressive and somewhat supportive parents (or at least ones who aren’t outright homophobic).
Lebanon, especially Beirut, is FULL TO THE BRIM with gay people (though most of them are closeted or only discreetly out). And I literally mean it when I say, almost everyone I know is either bi (some with a preference for the opposite sex, but most to the same) or gay/lesbian, and that especially holds true for younger people my age (18 to late 20s).
We also have multiple gay clubs and barrooms that host drag shows, LGBTQ+ friendly cafes, restaurants, hotels, libraries, etc. as well as many LGBTQ+ friendly services for mental and sexual health (most of them free of charge), plus the largest LGBTQ+ organization in the entire MENA region (Middle East and North Africa), known as HELEM.
Moreover, in certain areas you might even spot gay couples literally holding hands and showing public affection, such as in Bliss Street (personally my favorite street in Lebanon) and around the American University of Beirut, and no one would bat an eye. That said, I’d still advise being cautious, cause it’s not entirely impossible to bump into some random retrograde, street-dwelling motherfucker who might harass you. The truly threatening homophobes tend to be older people (30+) who unfortunately make up like half of our population, as well as a decent amount of extra-conservative, rather religious younger shitheads.
Also there’s a shit-ton of DL guys on Grindr all over the country, and plenty of publicly gay ones on dating apps like Tinder.
In conclusion, life in Lebanon is generally amazing, even significantly better than in Canada or the U.S. in certain aspects, but definitely not nearly as good when it comes to being gay. You just gotta be careful where you go and how openly you express yourself in certain places, though the most you’d get usually (if anything at all) is a couple stares of hate or disgust from passersby (again, depending on where you are).
All that said, it’s also important to acknowledge that there are still many, many cases of discrimination against LGBTQ+ people in Lebanon. Social acceptance is increasing slowly but surely, yet it’s currently still far from perfect, and not everyone’s experience is as fortunate as mine.
I’d like to note that Lebanon is generally NOT safe for LGBTQ+ people (some areas are SAFER not SAFE), cause I felt like I only spoke about the “good” and forgot almost all about the “bad”.
While the country is considered to be very progressive compared to neighboring countries, many LGBTQ+ rights violations still occur on a daily basis.
Also, we have little to no legal rights or protections, and are not only persecuted but also prosecuted by law on many different occasions. And even though some of us are fully out, it’s really hard to live completely freely and be true to ourselves.
I just happen to be more fortunate than most other people like myself, to not have experienced any kind of serious harassment or real abuse, especially because I’m really cautious and only discreetly out (only to my friends, not publicly) and because I’m privileged in many other different ways (which I acknowledge and am grateful for). But here in Canada I’m completely free and I feel totally safe and able to be true to myself.
I understand, my country' people up to +30 isn't too progressive either, but when i came out to my parents they were supportive too, then i moved to America after finishing my university (planning to move to Canada because of one orange guy), btw do you a boyfriend or single?
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