yes, that's who i was thinking. or robbie since jax topped both of them. maybe daniel but he's getting a little too grizzeled. i mean he was a daddy when he started and he's been living in the desert. he's a bit leatheryI'm with ya. Not sure I'd wanna see any of their recent models with Jax. Brysen shows up once in awhile these days. I think he could top Jax properly.