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Hello ladies. I need a safe but also blunt space to anonymously share a huge struggle in my soul, and I want only female responses. Hence the post here and not elsewhere.
I have not had sex for three years. My beautiful Ukrainian girlfriend is trapped behind the battle zone in East Ukraine. She is truly an amazing lady, and I am lucky to have her. She thinks the world of me. She could have gotten out on several occasions- she is strong and healthy and could make the long night trek. She is staying with her little old lady mom and invalid brother. They cannot travel as easily as she. The only realistic way is by vehicle, but those tend to get shot when approaching the lines. I am able to get money to her each month, so they have water, electricity and food (dog food too, for the two rescue dogs). It is a costly transaction, passing through many hands to get to her, but it works. We speak by phone (Skype) 2-4 times each week, depending on her signal quality. Here is my problem: I am excruciatingly horny and lonely. I am generally a very upbeat, self motivated man. I have a great job and enjoy my colleagues. I really, really, REALLY want to fuck. Really, like seriously really. Dating Mary Palm and her five sisters who live on the end of wrist street is neither wonderful nor satisfying. I want a living, gasping, thrashing female, loving my big cock inside her every day. Yep, that's what I want. My girlfriend wants it too, but she is not here. She is horny as hell too. If the circumstances present themselves and I run into an attractive lady who is interested, I will go down like a poled ox. I know this. I am hunting somewhat- not full steam, but I am yearning in that direction. If I have sex with another woman, I know I will feel guilty. I have a family depending on me. I will be tempted to not talk with her so often, especially if I have someone here. There is nothing I can do to help get her out. If they can get to Kiev, then she can fly here- she has a visa. It will take major political action to make an opening for civilians to escape. It has been three years, and I am eroding. When I was overseas last year, I had occasion to go to Dubai about once a month. I could have had a no strings attached, very beautiful hooker each time I went. I had the money, and Lord knows I was horny enough. I could not bring myself to do it. Now, I am not so sure. I am looking for the opportunity. When I was working in Central Asia a few years earlier, I was in bed with 18 women in my first 18 months there. Then I met my Ukrainian girl, and after we decided to have a serious relationship, I stopped all the horn dogging. The amazing thing is that she has NEVER made threats, NEVER demanded loyalty, NEVER dropped hints or played games. She is straight arrow and true blue in communication. I just simply stopped chasing women. That was then and this is now- three years of celibacy later, and it is eating me alive. I welcome your thoughts, thanks.
 
Talk to her. Ghosting and cheating is not an option. No matter how you try to spin your circumstances.

Waiting for her, taking care of her family is amazing... trying to slink away to random pussy without so much of word to her is shitty. Decide what kinda of person you want to be.
 
Only you can answer the question if you're cheating on her by having sex with another person. Are you in a committed relationship or not?

Did you make a promise to be faithful? Is this self-imposed celibacy on your part or did you both agree to it?

Lots of questions here.

Talk to her. Ask if she would be OK if you just had sex with no attachments. That's really the test, you know. If you can't do it then don't.

The fact that you've asked this question makes me question if this relationship is even viable. Wouldn't it be easier to just end it and look for another? If not then think about that. You want it to continue, but you have needs that need to be met. Know that everybody has needs that go unmet every day.
 
Ditto to all of the above.

It’s between you and your girlfriend. The two of you define the parameters of your relationship, no one else. If you feel this long distance thing is going to work out, then work it out with her. If not, then end it and start fresh here with no guilt. Level of horniness has absolutely zero to do with anything.
 
You haven't got a girlfriend. You have a Ukrainian scam artist. Paying cash for a relationship with someone you don't know, and have probably never met is a pretty clear indicator that this is not a relationship. Desperate times, especially for women, in Ukraine probably mean that she really does need the money you send, and is genuinely grateful, so I could be breaking the code by giving my honest opinion here. Of course she doesn't make threats, or demand loyalty! She's just glad that you are sending the money, and that she is not having to have sex with you to get it. When compared to some of the other options for young Ukrainian women (I'll just go ahead and make the assumption that she is young, and considerably younger than you) like porn, prostitution, or being trafficked, I'm sure she is very happy to tell you whatever you want to hear.
The problem here is that you see women as a commodity. It's starting to dawn on you that you are paying for the "girlfriend experience" but not actually getting the girlfriend sex that you feel entitled to. Poor you.
Here is what I propose : Keep sending the money. She needs that money to survive and look after her family. You will have genuinely done a really good, kind, and selfless thing. As you then won't have that money to give other women a cash incentive to have sex with you, you could then work on forming a real relationship with a woman who is interested in you instead of your money. Good luck with that, because it might require a considerable amount of effort, and you will have to think what else you might possibly have to offer someone, and be more realistic about compatibility and looks.
You don't need to feel guilty about having sex with someone, and I'm certain that the Ukrainian woman will only care about that in as far as how it is likely to affect her. You would need to feel guilty if you withdrew your financial support without giving her enough time to find some other idiot first, because they may well completely depend on that money.

This is an interesting article from several years ago:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...ne-wife-internet-romance-industry-online-scam

So there it is. If you want the Disney version instead I'd be willing to write that for you, but it'll cost you.
 
I'd be quite interested in male responses to this one. I did once know someone in a very similar situation, and his close male friends all told him he was being an idiot, though some tried to break it to him more gently than others.
 
You haven't got a girlfriend. You have a Ukrainian scam artist. Paying cash for a relationship with someone you don't know, and have probably never met is a pretty clear indicator that this is not a relationship. Desperate times, especially for women, in Ukraine probably mean that she really does need the money you send, and is genuinely grateful, so I could be breaking the code by giving my honest opinion here. Of course she doesn't make threats, or demand loyalty! She's just glad that you are sending the money, and that she is not having to have sex with you to get it. When compared to some of the other options for young Ukrainian women (I'll just go ahead and make the assumption that she is young, and considerably younger than you) like porn, prostitution, or being trafficked, I'm sure she is very happy to tell you whatever you want to hear.
The problem here is that you see women as a commodity. It's starting to dawn on you that you are paying for the "girlfriend experience" but not actually getting the girlfriend sex that you feel entitled to. Poor you.
Here is what I propose : Keep sending the money. She needs that money to survive and look after her family. You will have genuinely done a really good, kind, and selfless thing. As you then won't have that money to give other women a cash incentive to have sex with you, you could then work on forming a real relationship with a woman who is interested in you instead of your money. Good luck with that, because it might require a considerable amount of effort, and you will have to think what else you might possibly have to offer someone, and be more realistic about compatibility and looks.
You don't need to feel guilty about having sex with someone, and I'm certain that the Ukrainian woman will only care about that in as far as how it is likely to affect her. You would need to feel guilty if you withdrew your financial support without giving her enough time to find some other idiot first, because they may well completely depend on that money.

This is an interesting article from several years ago:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...ne-wife-internet-romance-industry-online-scam

So there it is. If you want the Disney version instead I'd be willing to write that for you, but it'll cost you.
Way to burst the romance bubble!

I wasn’t going to mention the romance scam angle, although it’s highly likely. Maybe she really does want to leave the Ukraine, but if she has had the chance to leave and hasn’t... well, that kind of leaves that out. There’s always the fiancée visa, but they would have had to spend time together and that means he would have to go there at least once to spend time with her. Yeah, well.

Quite the pickle. Personally, I would never send money to someone I didn’t know or money I couldn’t afford to lose. If he’s into charity, great. But if he really believes there’s a future, what are you going to do? Guys like him are on Drl Phil all the time as victims. Russia, the Ukraine, Thailand, Nigeria - all places where romance scams abound.
 
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You haven't got a girlfriend. You have a Ukrainian scam artist. Paying cash for a relationship with someone you don't know, and have probably never met is a pretty clear indicator that this is not a relationship. Desperate times, especially for women, in Ukraine probably mean that she really does need the money you send, and is genuinely grateful, so I could be breaking the code by giving my honest opinion here. Of course she doesn't make threats, or demand loyalty! She's just glad that you are sending the money, and that she is not having to have sex with you to get it. When compared to some of the other options for young Ukrainian women (I'll just go ahead and make the assumption that she is young, and considerably younger than you) like porn, prostitution, or being trafficked, I'm sure she is very happy to tell you whatever you want to hear.
The problem here is that you see women as a commodity. It's starting to dawn on you that you are paying for the "girlfriend experience" but not actually getting the girlfriend sex that you feel entitled to. Poor you.
Here is what I propose : Keep sending the money. She needs that money to survive and look after her family. You will have genuinely done a really good, kind, and selfless thing. As you then won't have that money to give other women a cash incentive to have sex with you, you could then work on forming a real relationship with a woman who is interested in you instead of your money. Good luck with that, because it might require a considerable amount of effort, and you will have to think what else you might possibly have to offer someone, and be more realistic about compatibility and looks.
You don't need to feel guilty about having sex with someone, and I'm certain that the Ukrainian woman will only care about that in as far as how it is likely to affect her. You would need to feel guilty if you withdrew your financial support without giving her enough time to find some other idiot first, because they may well completely depend on that money.

This is an interesting article from several years ago:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...ne-wife-internet-romance-industry-online-scam

So there it is. If you want the Disney version instead I'd be willing to write that for you, but it'll cost you.
Ma'am, with all respect and sincerity, you are bigoted and narrow-minded and uninformed of the facts. Yes, what you post is the mainstream view. Yes, there are scammers. And yes, there are successful relationships. You are too self-important to be able to consider this possibility of success. I have three friends who have successful, long lasting marriages with Ukrainian ladies, and those ladies are superb. You have this two-dimensional view of Eastern European women that blinds you to the possibility that real relationships can be had through this medium. Many Ukrainian ladies are excellent women, but you cannot believe this. I know from personal experience. What is your experience?
The other ladies who posted here are awesome. You are not awesome. I know the specifics and details of my girlfriend's family, because I have met them. I have eaten with them. I played with their dogs. I was with my girlfriend when one of her dogs died. We have made love many times, with no exchange of funds, nor implication of obligation to support. She made love with me because she wanted to. Yes, I met some Ukrainian girls who were immature, or not sincere, or just curious and not really ready for a relationship with an older foreign man. I know which dating sites have the most scammers, and which ones post false profiles. I know which ones do a rigorous identity check of the ladies, and enforce policies regarding prostitution. I know how the sites make their money. I know all these things.
Goddammit, please just reply to my concern, or else STFU. I may not be able to convince you that I am dealing with reality, but you can at least have the decency to not contribute if all you have to offer is tedious bigotry. You are parr for the course of standard trolls on this site.
 
Way to burst the romance bubble!

I wasn’t going to mention the romance scam angle, although it’s highly likely. Maybe she really does want to leave the Ukraine, but if she has had the chance to leave and hasn’t... well, that kind of leaves that out. There’s always the fiancée visa, but they would have had to spend time together and that means he would have to go there at least once to spend time with her. Yeah, well.

Quite the pickle. Personally, I would never send money to someone I didn’t know or money I couldn’t afford to lose. If he’s into charity, great. But if he really believes there’s a future, what are you going to do? Guys like him are on Drl Phil all the time as victims. Russia, the Ukraine, Thailand, Nigeria - all places where romance scams abound.
Ma'am, your first post was priceless. Your second post was a piece of garbage. Please read my reply to swoon.
 
Only you can answer the question if you're cheating on her by having sex with another person. Are you in a committed relationship or not?

Did you make a promise to be faithful? Is this self-imposed celibacy on your part or did you both agree to it?

Lots of questions here.

Talk to her. Ask if she would be OK if you just had sex with no attachments. That's really the test, you know. If you can't do it then don't.

The fact that you've asked this question makes me question if this relationship is even viable. Wouldn't it be easier to just end it and look for another? If not then think about that. You want it to continue, but you have needs that need to be met. Know that everybody has needs that go unmet every day.
Thanks for your kind and serious reply. I am grateful.
 
Talk to her. Ghosting and cheating is not an option. No matter how you try to spin your circumstances.

Waiting for her, taking care of her family is amazing... trying to slink away to random pussy without so much of word to her is shitty. Decide what kinda of person you want to be.
Superb moral boost. I need bracing from time to time. Thank-you.
 
Many Ukrainian ladies are excellent women,
I did not say otherwise. Nor did I cast aspersions on her character.
older foreign man.
I hit that nail on the head then.
Goddammit, please just reply to my concern, or else STFU. I may not be able to convince you that I am dealing with reality, but you can at least have the decency to not contribute if all you have to offer is tedious bigotry. You are parr for the course of standard trolls on this site.
I've already told you that you can have the Disney version if you are willing to pay for it. I'm not on this site to stroke your ego or tell you what you want to hear.
Someone here is a bigot, and it's not me.
I welcome your thoughts, thanks.
Those were my thoughts asshole.

No sex for three fucking years!? Seriously?!

And you're here asking our permission to cheat on the woman you are in a "serious relationship" with?

:rolleyes:
 
Give extremely limited information, ask for advice, then get mad when people suggest possible scenarios based off of the limited information. Cool.
Ditto.

I stand by both my posts. If this is real great. God bless and discuss your future with her. However, romance scams abound. If it doesn’t apply to you, good but perhaps it will help someone else. No one deserves to be taken advantage of.
 
I did not say otherwise. Nor did I cast aspersions on her character.

I hit that nail on the head then.

I've already told you that you can have the Disney version if you are willing to pay for it. I'm not on this site to stroke your ego or tell you what you want to hear.
Someone here is a bigot, and it's not me.

Those were my thoughts asshole.

No sex for three fucking years!? Seriously?!

And you're here asking our permission to cheat on the woman you are in a "serious relationship" with?

:rolleyes:
Take a look at MickeyLee's post. This is exactly what I was seeking, and I thanked her for it. She stayed on target. You jumped to conclusions. Yes, seriously, I have not had sex in three years, because I have stayed faithful to her. I opened myself to this group, because it is getting to me. Mickey brought me back on track. I have no doubt that you never suffer from moral challenges, but I do. I was not asking for permission- I was telling this group that I was sliding, and MIckey kindly jerked me up short. Your words were worthless, and spoken from ignorance. So, you read a magazine article, and suddenly you are an expert? Nope, you're the asshole, dear. You cannot tolerate anyone calling you out for your trash, and you lash back. Did you vote for Trump? That is his method.
 
Give extremely limited information, ask for advice, then get mad when people suggest possible scenarios based off of the limited information. Cool.
Fair enough. I was, however, looking for moral bracing, and not for instruction about scammers. I know more about that particular topic than many, and have navigated myself through it. MickeyLee and
Bust out the scale. What weighs heavier, your feelings for this wonderful woman you have in your life who you can't currently have physical contact with, or the physical contact itself?
Damn, this is an excellent reply! Thank-you ma'am, for staying on point and making the point. This is exactly what I was looking for from this group.