There are still some threads out there that claim to have seen or been with 10+ inches, and usually more than one, and in an anonymous bathhouse, and they don't have to measure to know it's real because they are carpenters and know 10" on sight, and they were with two brothers and their father who were all the same size, and it was at least the girth of a beer bottle, and balls were bigger than ostrich eggs, and, and, and... Oh, and don't accuse them of lying or you're just a doubter because they actually know.