Creepy perv or not these guys knew the deal when they agreed and got paid so if they felt uncomfortable they made that choice definitely not victims
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And a racist. I know many people get uncomfortable when they hear that thrown around but it's true with that jerk. The videos with Roger M were some of his worst. Roger talking about his disgust with black people's smell, hair, and skin (video 1). The owner just backs him up, but he always had problematic shit to say while groping his ashy models. The owner seemed to have a tone of internal homophobia which lead him to this obsession with body builders. Some good content, but a creep, like the owner of StraightCollegeMen.
Why couldn't these men put on some lotion? Would a little Coco butter kill a bitch?
If you’ve actually watched many of the videos, you would have noticed that he groped a lot of the guys in places that made them feel uncomfortable without even asking their permission first. Some of them would give him permission to feel up their muscles, but the next thing you knew, he was brushing his hands against their cock or hole. He really likes to push the boundaries of what his models agree to.
I have watched the videos and again they’re not victims these guys chose to do porn whether or not it’s just a solo that’s what they chose to do. I only feel for people who are actual victims who don’t put themselves in positions that are dangerous or could make them feel uncomfortable
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Let's see you exercise that gropey mentality in a strip club because "that's what they chose to do" and see how quickly you get bounced.
Fucking porn police in this thread. They aren’t getting raped. If it bothered them that much, they would’ve stopped him or punched him. They were paid to get groped.
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Sorry but it's not the strip club it's the Champagne Room of the strip club 
These guys didn't answer an ad for a Speedo shoot and find themselves naked and groped. They knew in advance they'd be touched by this ( I agree creepy guy who prolly went beyond what was agreed on) but it's obvs by the fact that some of the guys are TOTALLY SOLO that they could also say no. no touching me etc. I've no doubt that he went further than the ones who agreed to be touched had agreed to. but these aren't 5'2 young women alone with a man, these guys could knock him on his ass if they wanted to. And I've also no doubt that some, like Tim K, agreed to the groping of dick and ass and MORE in exchange for more $$$. They were paying for their protein powders and all the other crap they have to buy, they're not victims
These guys didn't answer an ad for a Speedo shoot and find themselves naked and groped. They knew in advance they'd be touched by this ( I agree creepy guy who prolly went beyond what was agreed on) but it's obvs by the fact that some of the guys are TOTALLY SOLO that they could also say no. no touching me etc. I've no doubt that he went further than the ones who agreed to be touched had agreed to. but these aren't 5'2 young women alone with a man, these guys could knock him on his ass if they wanted to. And I've also no doubt that some, like Tim K, agreed to the groping of dick and ass and MORE in exchange for more $$$. They were paying for their protein powders and all the other crap they have to buy, they're not victims I think they were getting paid to pose nude and then he starts tonguing their asses and playing with their dicks
That's the thing, they didn't know they were doing porn, most thought it was just a physique photoshoot, you even hear some of them ask or say I don't want to do porn when he asks them to do something or show frontal. That's why a lot of the guys don't show frontal, they were never intending to show anything like that, but he tricks them into a position that makes them expose themselves or catches them while switching hands to cover themselves, and pushes personal boundaries when he feels them up by "accidentally" brushing his arm on their cock. If you think these guys signed up for this you are blind. I have talked to a couple and they had no idea what they were getting into.
no he actually gets them in for a bodybuilding physique shoot, then tries to get them to pose nude while they are there, its a power play to put them on the spot like that. I think for sure a model or two complained to Vimeo when they found out it was online, in some of the videos he swears to them it won't be online, and he even tells some of them nudity won't be shown, and he got taken down for that during the metoo era. And I am not saying all of them are like this, some clearly agreed, and if you look around threads about PM those are actually the ones most fans rate the highest, like Dawson and Tim K, but a good portion were tricked into showing more than they wanted to. I think Zach J(?) is the most uncomfortable with all of it and complains throughout the video, but Peter probably held it over him that he could help him in the bodybuilding world because he worked with so many big names. The classic move by all these old men that do this to women and men.Sorry but it's not the strip club it's the Champagne Room of the strip club
First thing I just want you to know I’m not trying to argue with you I think sometimes with words things can come across aggressive you know and that’s not where I’m coming from. But no I’m not blind just using common sense. How can these guys say they were tricked that makes no sense. You go to do a shoot fine once the guy says get naked if you don’t want to get naked you get out it’s simple. Then you say you dont want to do porn but you’re jerking off. Then you’re asking the question is this going online come on man that makes no sense. If you don’t want to do porn soon as this guy says take your clothes off sorry but it’s a wrap.
see right there how does he get them to pose naked if they came to do a body building shoot. Didn’t they see his portfolio, even if it is a power play they can say no and leave it’s just the two of them and he certainly didn’t have a gun to their heads. And again how did they not know what was going on if this guy is using a video camera
I think there is a power dynamic, beyond physical strength, that gives the camera man an inappropriate influence on the models. Some of them really were uncomfortable, but after 4 - 8 hours on these shoots I'm sure they just wanted to get their money and leave. Even I feel worn down after watching these guys workout, pose, and listen to the owner talk for hours about whatever random shiSorry but it's not the strip club it's the Champagne Room of the strip club
You made me pull up Zach J's video. He was 18 at the time of the shoot, so yeah it was exploitative. He was still new to body building only had one competition under his belt a year before the shoot. He slowly worked is way into seeing his cock.
Key words wanted to get their money and go and you can’t force someone to see their dick unless you force them which he didn’t. In this day and age we need to be careful how we address these matters because there’s actual victims out here and these guys aren’t victims. He got paid then decided he was unfortunatelyI think there is a power dynamic, beyond physical strength, that gives the camera man an inappropriate influence on the models. Some of them really were uncomfortable, but after 4 - 8 hours on these shoots I'm sure they just wanted to get their money and leave. Even I feel worn down after watching these guys workout, pose, and listen to the owner talk for hours about whatever random shi
You made me pull up Zach J's video. He was 18 at the time of the shoot, so yeah it was exploitative. He was still new to body building only had one competition under his belt a year before the shoot. He slowly worked is way into seeing his cock.
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I've said this before... as much as I enjoy these vids there are some, like Zach's that make me uncomfortable. The psychology of Peter is confusing... he has the ability to edit stuff like that out (or just not post the vid) but goes with it anyway. That lends itself to the argument that those conversations are scripted/unedited for exactly the reason you would think... because there's a market for "reluctant exhibitionism" porn.
However, learning (mainly through his content) that some of these guys are in fact recognized names in the bodybuilding world adds to the confusion. I mean, it's not church, I don't know how much morality is in play in that community, and what these guys do to get ahead. You do get a sense of it, because how many of them now have OF accounts and "private posing" is a whole cottage industry, but those are individual choices and it's hard to imagine he's playing that fast and loose with unwilling models and his own reputation and it hasn't erupted into a public scandal. If there was a court case between him and any of them, it would in all likelihood be a public record that comes up in Google searches I haven't lately but at one point I did look into this when someone on Reddit shared Peter's last name. Since he's also some kind of doctor, a profession that requires a state license, I would also think if he got into any kind of hot water, it would make the news.
However, learning (mainly through his content) that some of these guys are in fact recognized names in the bodybuilding world adds to the confusion. I mean, it's not church, I don't know how much morality is in play in that community, and what these guys do to get ahead. You do get a sense of it, because how many of them now have OF accounts and "private posing" is a whole cottage industry, but those are individual choices and it's hard to imagine he's playing that fast and loose with unwilling models and his own reputation and it hasn't erupted into a public scandal. If there was a court case between him and any of them, it would in all likelihood be a public record that comes up in Google searches I haven't lately but at one point I did look into this when someone on Reddit shared Peter's last name. Since he's also some kind of doctor, a profession that requires a state license, I would also think if he got into any kind of hot water, it would make the news.
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It does seem like an incredible amount of naivety would have to be in play. It is not rocket science to put together that a video camera being pointed at you while naked is not something you can undo. If I was genetically gifted enough to have anybody interested in recording me naked, I would surely want a lot of information about what they were going to do with the footage, and a contract that stipulated where it could go. But I would also be realistic about the probability that pirated copies would get out there (especially if I had a recognizable name, like Zach Reyfus) and trying to keep people from seeing it would be like putting toothpaste back in the tube. These guys grew up in the Internet age and have to be aware where this would go.
I am sure the motive for going forward ranges from financial desperation to greed to blatant narcissism, but I am pretty sure that these guys had at least an idea that footage of their ween would get out there before they dropped their shorts.
Bodybuilders have always had close ties to exhibitionists and gay men that like to ogle at their bodies. As someone said earlier, even Arnold Swatzineger did nude modeling/porn when he arrived in America. So many of the guys are young and their supplements are expensive. Letting someone adore your hard work for cash is normal in bodybuilding. Also, there is this outlandish machoism that teeters into the "the lady doth protests too much" in bodybuilding. The same thing can be found in the Marines, trust me! Marines are alpha's in the streets, but bossy bottoms in the sheets when they get it on with men.
Bodybuilders are a niche group of people that work well in a mentor-mentee system. Younger guys look up to their idols and adopt this alpha-beta personality. Gay men are much more likely to pay them for their time than women. Falling into a submissive contractual agreement for body worship sessions that push their limits makes sense given their overall goal and financial needs.
I don't mean to offend but a lot of the guys on PM seem like little boys with big muscles. Bodybuilding gave them to control or a win in life. It's a special type of personality interested in that lifestyle.
