To all: Are africans crazy about dick size too?

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leanffm: I have never been to Africa yet, but I have met some guys from Africa (Sudan) who were hung huge.

Any views on this? Has anyone met guys from Africa? Are they concerned about dick size too and do they stare at guys with XXL???

The guy from Sudan was extremely shy about this. Maybe because of Islam law...

Joerg.

 

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Jimbo: I have been to Africa 3 times. I would assume that on EVERY continent you can find guys (and women) like you describe. People are people.

 

[B_RoysToy]

YEAP

 

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HUMONGOUS: what a strange question?
africans as a whole are no more likely to be concerned about penis size than say italians, germans, or swedes. there are individuals within the african community that are concerned with penis size just as there are members within the aforementioned ethnicities who are as equally as concerned about penis size. as far as africans staring at large penises how can someone answer  at what an individaul may or may not stare. you sound as though you have lived a very sheltered life and do not know people of ethnicities other than yours. all of your questions are centered around "africans". what you should probably do is spend some time in africa, being around and socializing with africans.  the members on this board are for the most part not african. there are some members of this board who are of african descent or better known as black americans but they do not share the same views and ;D 8) lifestyles as africans.  

 

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Ineligible: Yes, all peoples are human beings, and we all share the same basic issues and characters, even though cultures are different. I've just read in my daughter's Horrible Histories book (these are a series of history books for teens, very good) on "The Barmy British Empire" that Shaka Zulu was teased by the other boys when he was young because his penis was small, and this affected him throughout his life. (And his penis stayed small.)

I've tried to find confirmation; the nearest I can find is http://campus.northpark.edu/history/WebChron/Africa/ShakaZulu.html, which refers to his being "ridiculed about his body".

 

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Jimbo: Humongous:

You comment is well taken, but i do take exception to your statement "there are some members of this board who are of african descent or better known as black americans but they do not share the same views and lifestyles as africans".  How can you make a blanket statement like this?  I have been there several times and have found that the picture we are fed of Africa by the mass media is FAR from the way is actually is.  As i said before, people are people with similar ranges of views AND lifestyles, not matter WHAT continent.  Go and see for yourself.

 

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gigantikok: I used to LIVE in Africa, dammit. No there weren't bushmen walking around with 12 inch penises hunting zebras. No we didn't live in a grass hut washing our clothes on the river bank. There are a lot of people in Africa that live in houses or have family lives and traditions similar to anyone else in the world. And the tribes that do have bushmen walking around with 13 inch limp penises probably wouldn't regard it as much of an amazing spectacle since that is all they see everyday. If you are conditioned and accustomed to seeing nudity and huge penises everyday for your whole life, then I doubt it will ever be eyepopping.

 

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HUMONGOUS: 8) : [quote author=Jimbo link=board=meetgreet;num=1068575032;start=0#5 date=11/21/03 at 16:36:59]Humongous:

You comment is well taken, but i do take exception to your statement "there are some members of this board who are of african descent or better known as black americans but they do not share the same views and lifestyles as africans".  How can you make a blanket statement like this?  I have been there several times and have found that the picture we are fed of Africa by the mass media is FAR from the way is actually is.  As i said before, people are people with similar ranges of views AND lifestyles, not matter WHAT continent.  Go and see for yourself.[/quote]
jimbo---although i appreciate what you had to say, you can save the speech for some of the other members on this board. while you have visited africa as a tourist or relief worker or whatever capacity you visited in, you are not african. i am an african from the sudan. my father is an african from the sudan. my grandparents are in the sudan as we speak. and yes i know that the black americans here in the united states and the africans abroad do not share the same views, and lifestyles. they simply do not.  if you have visited africa and came away not knowing this then you are ignorant.
first of all the culture is different. within the culture people have different values, customs, beleifs, which all help to shape their personality and ultimately their way of thinking. the social class system is different, and unless you lived in africa and experienced it you cannot even fathom what i am saying. the judicial system is different. the educational system is different. the migratory patterns are different. the economy is not the same. the system of trade is not the same.the strife an civil wars that are common among tribesmen are not known here. black americans have not experienced this lifestyle that africans have on a day to day basis. therefore i will say again "black americans do not shre the same views that african do. it is very ignorant for you to say that people are people. why state the obvious. yes people are people, but that does not mean that americans are familair with communism, and apartheid. most of them are not, and therfore do not have the same beleifs and way of thinking as those who have experienced such. and while you state that the picture we are fed is not true, i cannot comment on that because no one has to feed me a picture about a place i am from. i have no idea what picture you were being fed, but i suggest you get to a library and read. you are an adult so that is not an excuse. unless you are beyond gullible. some things are common sense. if you are going to comment then comment on something you are knowledgeable about. ;D

 

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HUMONGOUS: while gigantikok makes light of the "suppossed stereotypes", he does not realize he is perpetuating them. yes there are bushmen walking around in africa. naked and some with loincloths, and yes they do wash their clothes in the river. the bushmen --- they are the hunters and gatherers for the village that they belong to. they also use domesticated bows and arrows. and they use large animal bones as spearheads. these people are populous throughout the african continent, and live in huts, and use mats for bedding. they hunt zebra, buffalo, antelope, and ocassionally a rhineceros, and carry the carcasses of the animals home after butchering them. so when gigantikok says no this doesn't exist. it most certainly does, and for him to say so means he is perpetuating a myth, and for that he too is ignorant.   ;D while a lot of africa is modern and a lot of homes do have modern conveniences, a majority do not. and this must be told. and yes as far as penis sizes go--- the chieftainship of certain villages went to the tribesmen with the laregst penis.africans as a whole may not be any more concerned about penis size than any other ethnicity but that does not negate the fact that some societies used the largest penis to award leadership roles. just because you lived among the africans for a limited period of time gigantikok does not indicate that you are a ;D : knowledgeable source of information

 

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gigantikok: Hey HUMONGOUS, who lived in 4 different countries in Africa over a 10 YEAR period and who didnt?  That's right, screw you, I am not perpetuating any stereotypes.  I am talking about MY experiences, and in most of my experiences, OF ALL of Africa I saw (and that was a lot), I never remember hearing about or seeing bushmen that live in grass huts and hunt zebra.  These types of people are isolated from society and in few numbers.  Most of the jungles have been cleared out and turned into farm land.  Most of the former tribes have, by now, integrated themselves into modern society and do not hunt Rhinos.  So, I wasn't saying they don't exist, i am saying they very rare.  So how about you shut your mouth and stop spewing out ignorance?  OK?

 

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Jimbo: HUMONGASS:

Just because you are SUDANESE does not make you a spokeperson for ALL africans NOR ALL people of African heritage.  To make a BLANKET statement like you did shows YOUR ignorance, not mine.    Views can be similar, even though the life experiences that shaped those viewpoints may be somewhat DIFFERENT.  To give apartheid as an example of oppression in Africa, yet to ignore the hundreds of years of slavery imposed on African-heritaged people here and the repercussions it is STILL having in modern American society shows how "insulated" you are from the real world, not how knowledgeable you are about it.  

As far as the picture of what I have been FED, you have to NOT be from Africa to be able to really see the contrasts.  Reading so-called books on Africa generally available in libraries here or watching so-called documentaries or other media presentations, show no MODERN Africa only the "traditional" Africa as if the continent is STILL caught up  in some sort of  time warp.  RARELY do we see any semblance of an Africa that  has ANY modern cities, industry, amenities, roads or even people that wear SHOES and the stereotypes are still being perpertrated.  Go to the libraries and  see for yourself. I dont need to.

By the way, the mis-spelling of your LPSG name was INTENTIONAL.  When you speak as an "authority", try and expand your brain past your pre-conceived, insulated and slanted viewpoints and get some FACTS.

 

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gigantikok: [quote author=Jimbo link=board=meetgreet;num=1068575032;start=0#10 date=11/22/03 at 02:04:23]HUMONGASS:

Just because you are SUDANESE does not make you a spokeperson for ALL africans NOR ALL people of African heritage.  To make a BLANKET statement like you did shows YOUR ignorance, not mine.    Views can be similar, even though the life experiences that shaped those viewpoints may be somewhat DIFFERENT.  To give apartheid as an example of oppression in Africa, yet to ignore the hundreds of years of slavery imposed on African-heritaged people here and the repercussions it is STILL having in modern American society shows how "insulated" you are from the real world, not how knowledgeable you are about it.  

As far as the picture of what I have been FED, you have to NOT be from Africa to be able to really see the contrasts.  Reading so-called books on Africa generally available in libraries here or watching so-called documentaries or other media presentations, show no MODERN Africa only the "traditional" Africa as if the continent is STILL caught up  in some sort of  time warp.  RARELY do we see any semblance of an Africa that  has ANY modern cities, industry, amenities, roads or even people that wear SHOES and the stereotypes are still being perpertrated.  Go to the libraries and  see for yourself. I dont need to.

By the way, the mis-spelling of your LPSG name was INTENTIONAL.  When you speak as an "authority", try and expand your brain past your pre-conceived, insulated and slanted viewpoints and get some FACTS.[/quote]
Right on Jimbo, way to speak for people that have WORLD experience, and not ignorant, know-it-all fucks who live in a bubble. *coughHUMONGASScough*

 

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HUMONGOUS: [quote author=Jimbo link=board=meetgreet;num=1068575032;start=0#10 date=11/22/03 at 02:04:23]HUMONGASS:

Just because you are SUDANESE does not make you a spokeperson for ALL africans NOR ALL people of African heritage.  To make a BLANKET statement like you did shows YOUR ignorance, not mine.    Views can be similar, even though the life experiences that shaped those viewpoints may be somewhat DIFFERENT.  To give apartheid as an example of oppression in Africa, yet to ignore the hundreds of years of slavery imposed on African-heritaged people here and the repercussions it is STILL having in modern American society shows how "insulated" you are from the real world, not how knowledgeable you are about it.  

As far as the picture of what I have been FED, you have to NOT be from Africa to be able to really see the contrasts.  Reading so-called books on Africa generally available in libraries here or watching so-called documentaries or other media presentations, show no MODERN Africa only the "traditional" Africa as if the continent is STILL caught up  in some sort of  time warp.  RARELY do we see any semblance of an Africa that  has ANY modern cities, industry, amenities, roads or even people that wear SHOES and the stereotypes are still being perpertrated.  Go to the libraries and  see for yourself. I dont need to.

By the way, the mis-spelling of your LPSG name was INTENTIONAL.  When you speak as an "authority", try and expand your brain past your pre-conceived, insulated and slanted viewpoints and get some FACTS.[/quote]
LOL resorting to school boy name calling underscores my point, that you are indeed ignorant. by misspelling my name what did you hope to achieve? what was your objective? was it achieved? your calling me silly little names does not take away from the fact that you still haven't a clue as to what you are speaking about. you misinterpreted everything i said. you missed the whole point. no i am not a spokesperson nor did i claim to be. i did not give apartheid as an example of oppression, i gave it as an example to show how people who have lived under that system and support it have different views that folks who live here in the united states in a supposedly free society. you missed the whole point. obviously your reading comprehension is not what it should be. i do not know what it is you are TRYING TO argue. you are way off course. my point is that the two societies have views that differ. and i gave examples of why. thank you. ;D

 

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HUMONGOUS: gigantikok, the honorary african has lived in four african countries over a ten yr period. am i impressed? no i am not. you still have your facts wrong. until you straighten them out you are doing yourself a disservice. living in four countries over a ten yr perod hardly qualifies you to speak out on something you have no knowledge of ;D name calling does not bother me

 

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Jimbo: Humongous:

Actually I GOT your point.  It just that your "point" is STILL fallacious.  The way is was stated, you are confusing VIEWS with EXPERIENCES.  Diffferent EXPERIENCES can result in similar VIEWS, just like SIMILAR experiences can result in DIFFERENT views.  Is that so HARD to get?  It is about how things are PERCEIVED based on the extent and nature of the individual's experiences that creates their viewpoints, not some "blanket" viewpoint that must be expressed by ALL africans or african-heritage people,  just because YOU say so.

As far as the "name-calling", your ARE what you portray here by what you type.  Trying to divert attention away from your basic missstatements and misunderstandings by focusing on the the fact I called you "names" does not diminish the reality that your "FACTS" still ARE misstatements even if you can't or REFUSE to see that from your limited frame of reference.  

 

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I had trouble making it past these two statements:
[quote author=HUMONGOUS link=board=meetgreet;num=1068575032;start=0#8 date=11/22/03 at 00:59:24] they also use domesticated bows and arrows.
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How does one domesticate bows and arrows? I would think that archery equipment would be difficult to tame.

these people are populous throughout the african continent

="These people are full of people" ... someone contact the Department of Redundancy Department!

 

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Ineligible: A problem that I have with this thread is the generalisations. It's difficult to generalise usefully about any group of people, because they are individuals and vary so much; the more so over a continent like Africa, containing many different peoples and cultures and living environments. Even in the Sudan, just one African country, the difference in culture between the northern and southern Sudanese is extreme, as I'm sure Humongous would be aware.

 

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HUMONGOUS: [quote author=DoubleMeatWhopper link=board=meetgreet;num=1068575032;start=0#15 date=11/22/03 at 20:04:30]I had trouble making it past these two statements:

How does one domesticate bows and arrows? I would think that archery equipment would be difficult to tame.


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you had trouble because you are not the sharpest tool in the shed--leave the steroids alone
these people are populous--"these people" refers to the type of people --in this case indigenous and they are populous throughout the region. is that so hard to understand???? ;D :-[ ;D

 

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HUMONGOUS: [quote author=Jimbo link=board=meetgreet;num=1068575032;start=0#14 date=11/22/03 at 14:18:05]Humongous:

Actually I GOT your point.  It just that your "point" is STILL fallacious.  The way is was stated, you are confusing VIEWS with EXPERIENCES.  Diffferent EXPERIENCES can result in similar VIEWS, just like SIMILAR experiences can result in DIFFERENT views.  Is that so HARD to get?  It is about how things are PERCEIVED based on the extent and nature of the individual's experiences that creates their viewpoints, not some "blanket" viewpoint that must be expressed by ALL africans or african-heritage people,  just because YOU say so.

As far as the "name-calling", your ARE what you portray here by what you type.  Trying to divert attention away from your basic missstatements and misunderstandings by focusing on the the fact I called you "names" does not diminish the reality that your "FACTS" still ARE misstatements even if you can't or REFUSE to see that from your limited frame of reference.  [/quote]
what you just paraphrased is what i said in my earlier comments jimbob. either you are slow or you are just plain stupid, and not worth talking with. i beleive it is the latter
WRONG AGAIN JIMBOB-i did not divert attention. after explaining to you what you didn't already know i pointed out that you were acting like a school boy by resorting to name calling. what you and several others on this board fail to realize is that name calling does not bother me. i do not know any of you and you are all insignificant to me. the name calling does not have the desired effect that that was intended.  however, if you feel that attention was being diverted, as you stated, then maybe you have Attention Deficit Disorder

 

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Jimbo: Humongous:

So when are you gonna address the REAL point which is my objections to your stereotypical viewpoints (and as Ineligible so aptly stated GENERALIZATIONS)  concerning Aficans and African-Americans? The "speech" you gave as to your "justifications" does not really hold any weight in the real world but rather is based on your biased ASSUMPTIONS.  Therefore, I dont think you REALLY can defend your position, so your latest responses IGNORE your original "point" and instead attempt to divert attention to "sub-issues'.

For you information, when you attempt to discuss something, in order for the discussion to have any value, try and stick to the original topic.   Or do YOU have Attention Deficit Disorder????  I don't think so.  You just spewed out some viewpoints that make NO sense to any one else responding to this thread and attempted to defend them by saying that because you are SUDANESE (which you imply makes you the spokesperson for the WHOLE of Africa, another flawed reasoning), that everyone else's observations, experiences  and viewpoints are AUTOMATICALLY fucked up.  That is like saying because i was born in New York City, that i hereby am qualified to speak for ALL Americans living here and abroad using MY viewpoints as the ones that all Americans have.  HUH?, yeah right. You would not buy that either. Nor would I be pretentious enough to even make a statement like that in the first place because I KNOW the world is more complex that just MY perceptions, experiences and the viewpoints that result from those.

So in summary, the basis for your logic is really NOT supportable and you have NO idea on how to recover your original "point" so now you are resorting to "name calling" yourself and insulting other posters who see the flaws.  How about admitting you misspoke?  Everyone makes mistakes.  If you are gonna respond to this post with yet another sidestep, please don't bother cluttering up this thread.