Why Are Black Men Wayyy Bigger Than Everybody Else?

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Why do you think African men are larger than African American men?

ETA: regarding this:

I don't. Not really. Just saw on like one study done on penis size that men in african countries were higher on the list. Figured i could toss in a few possibilities to make the thread more interesting. Just pointing out in general how penis size could very well come from environmental factors instead of race.

Was just a hypothetical. Sorry for any confusion.
 
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I spent many years playing basketball at a very high level as well as years in the military and it seemed that the black men were a bit longer when flaccid. So white guys may just assume this correlates to a bigger erection for black guys in general?
 
I mean why would someone believe in something that hurts them too? That would be stupid.

Because they think it is true or it is true? People can't ever believe a negative about themselves?
 
That's the thing. It isn't news to me. This is exactly my point. Science and scientists would have perfected the hell out of it by now if there were any real correlation. And products would without doubt be on shelves. Meaning the same is not true in general and there are other factors leading to penis size.

Like i said, it would kind of be poetic justice if the difference between size were climate/environment related. I mean africa is the birthplace of civilization period.

You seem to be ignoring that testosterone, at certain periods in the womb and during puberty, is what causes the penis to grow. Of course, there is probably a genetic limit too. If T is normal during these periods, more might not cause the penis to grow more. But, a dearth of T due to environmental factors can stunt penis growth. T is used by medical professionals to spur puberty in pathological late puberty or no puberty cases.

Objective masculine characteristics are promoted by testosterone: the rest is social construction. Puberty blockers used by transgender women (biological males) dampen objective masculine characteristics such as genital size, hairyness, muscular development, beard roughness, aggressiveness, etc. Keep in mind that there is wide variation in "normal" testosterone levels: roughly 200 to 900 on typical scales. Thus, there is a large variation in objective masculinity among men.

Some studies have shown African men have higher testosterone levels on average than other races. I cannot vouch for these studies.
 
I spent many years playing basketball at a very high level as well as years in the military and it seemed that the black men were a bit longer when flaccid. So white guys may just assume this correlates to a bigger erection for black guys in general?

Speaking strictly anecdotally, as a nudist, I too have observed that there seems to be a greater percentage of black men who are "show-ers" than "growers". There isn't much peer-reviewed data taking race into consideration to either dispute or support this observation.

Which again brings us back to the fact that there simply isn't enough data to support an assertion of black men being larger on average. The small studies point to no correlation but also state that they are small studies and that race correlation was not a study goal.
 
Because they think it is true or it is true? People can't ever believe a negative about themselves?

Right after that i pointed out how masculinity and toxic masculinity hurts men too. So yeah they can. Was just pointing things out.

You seem to be ignoring that testosterone, at certain periods in the womb and during puberty, is what causes the penis to grow. Of course, there is probably a genetic limit too. If T is normal during these periods, more might not cause the penis to grow more. But, a dearth of T due to environmental factors can stunt penis growth. T is used by medical professionals to spur puberty in pathological late puberty or no puberty cases.

Objective masculine characteristics are promoted by testosterone: the rest is social construction. Puberty blockers used by transgender women (biological males) dampen objective masculine characteristics such as genital size, hairyness, muscular development, beard roughness, aggressiveness, etc. Keep in mind that there is wide variation in "normal" testosterone levels: roughly 200 to 900 on typical scales. Thus, there is a large variation in objective masculinity among men.

Some studies have shown African men have higher testosterone levels on average than other races. I cannot vouch for these studies.

Not ignoring anything of the sort. I am though saying that if any of that information was comprehensive then dudes would have long since run with it. Getting their kids pumped full of stuff before they're out the belly.

(I cannot vouch for these studies.)

I can respect that.
 
Not ignoring anything of the sort. I am though saying that if any of that information was comprehensive then dudes would have long since run with it. Getting their kids pumped full of stuff before they're out the belly.

There is no operational tech even on the horizon for any such thing. Very very delicate to even think about. Side effects and potential for all kinds of damage would be tremendous.

You would have to monitor fetal development, test for amount of T being applied naturally at a specific time, and supplement microscopically somehow in the womb? I don't think you have thought this through at all.

Knowing this happens is far different from tampering with the process.
 
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There is no operational tech even on the horizon for any such thing. Very very delicate to even think about. Side effects and potential for all kinds of damage would be tremendous.

You would have to monitor fetal development, test for amount of T being applied naturally at a specific time, and supplement microscopically somehow in the womb? I don't think you have thought this through at all.

Knowing this happens is far different from tampering with the process.

Then you get my point. It's such an unsure possible procedure that people just don't yet do it. So that means what it's based off isn't all that sure either. Take face transplanting for instance. It started out as a myth. Maybe even a horror story. And with a little consideration,debate, studies and what not it became a reality.

When it comes to testosterone the information is still so shaky not much of anything can be based off of it.

This is my point. While there might have been fragments of information found here and there. If it were concrete, considering how obsessed some men are with penis size, then surely the procedures to raise the penis size of the next generation would be fully formed by now.

I'm sure you've met some insanely petty men before. The kinds of men who would for sure try to get it done to make sure their sons "have a leg up" on the competition. With all our advances though that doesn't happen. As far as i know.
 
As I am a hung white man, I'm not concerned. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. Maybe it's a myth that it's a myth and it's the actual reality. Maybe it's a Chinese hoax like global warming is.

Maybe I should take a DNA test.
Dude, are you proud of how stupid you are?
 
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Then you get my point. It's such an unsure possible procedure that people just don't yet do it. So that means what it's based off isn't all that sure either.

No. Your sentence 2 quoted above does not follow from sentence 1.

There are all kinds of ways to determine what testosterone does in the womb. If not from a human embryo for fear of damage than from other mammals. The budding clitoris, in fact, becomes a penis due to the testosterone chemical signal. Intervening successfully would be another thing entirely.

The effects of testosterone are well known in many contexts from many studies. It is part of standard treatment for sex change.
 
No. Your sentence 2 quoted above does not follow from sentence 1.

There are all kinds of ways to determine what testosterone does in the womb. If not from a human embryo for fear of damage than from other mammals. The budding clitoris, in fact, becomes a penis due to the testosterone chemical signal. Intervening successfully would be another thing entirely.

The effects of testosterone are well known in many contexts from many studies. It is part of standard treatment for sex change.

Right but there's a different between knowing well enough to come up with theories about it, knowing well enough to teach others and knowing it well enough to reproduce it's effects. Long story short. The stereotype that black men are larger is in fact a stereotype. Data has shown that. When it comes to differences in chemicals studies have also shown there aren't differences. When it comes to chemicals and penis size there's scientists haven't even checked because that would be based on stereotypes.

If there were a substantial amount of data linking the two directly then people for sure would try to capitalize on it. They don't. Which means the information we might have isn't substantial and doesn't link the two. So people can't get a procedure like that done because it doesn't exist. Again though, if the information leaned towards it being possible and that information were concrete enough people would of course have it done for their sons. Because penis size, while being a pretty stupid subject to begin with, is considered important to a very large number of people.

I wasn't saying you were wrong. I was saying none of it is even close to being replicated or proving anything about race or penis size in adults in general. It's way behind for that.
 
I wasn't saying you were wrong. I was saying none of it is even close to being replicated or proving anything about race or penis size in adults in general. It's way behind for that.

I'm aware that allegedly scientific studies have shown there is little difference between penis size by race except maybe Asian tend to be smaller.

My point was that high masculinity athletes tend to be larger and Blacks (Africans) more so from my anecdotal locker room experience. This might mean only that Blacks are less likely to be "growers" and more likely to be "showers." I recall my mostly well hung white basketball teammates being stunned in the locker room when we played an exhibition game at a Black highschool--lot of wispering on the bus ride home circa 1962.
 
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I'm aware that allegedly scientific studies have shown there is little difference between penis size by race except maybe Asian tend to be smaller.

My point was that high masculinity athletes tend to be larger and Blacks (Africans) more so from my anecdotal locker room experience. This might mean only that Blacks are less likely to be "growers" and more likely to be "showers." I recall my mostly well hung white basketball teammates being stunned in the locker room when we played an exhibition game at a Black highschool--lot of wispering on the bus ride home circa 1962.

I can respect that. Awesome wordage.