You CANNOT extend your penis!

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tripod2004: Penile extension techniques do not work. You may get the impression its getting bigger but that is temporary. The tissue making up your penis can only stretch so far and thats it. No cream or pill or exercise can do anything about it! You may as well say that you can increase the length of your nose or finger by exercise. Vacuum pumps do work in the same way as viagra- by increasing blood supply. Temporary!

Growing your penis ain't gonna happen guys. Don't waste your time or money.,
 
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tripod2004: I don't mean any offence to those who have spent money on products. If it WAS easily possible then everyone would have 7'' plus dick and the need for lpsg would disappear. But they don't nor will they. Lotions and exercises may firm up an erection and APPEAR to increase size but all that is happening is that 'what you've got is used to its potential'. The urethra is of fixed length and the only way to increase length is to lengthen it. And that means surgery. Finally, if it was possible, why do people spend thousands of pounds/dollars undergoing expensive dangerous procedures. It doesn't need extensive research to realise this- it's just common sense.
Sorry but don't waste money or time.
 

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[quote author=tripod2004 and partner link=board=pe;num=1081118353;start=0#0 date=04/04/04 at 15:30:13]

"Penile extension techniques do not work. You may get the impression its getting bigger but that is temporary...

...Growing your penis ain't gonna happen guys. Don't waste your time or money.

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Thanks for your views.  Each of us is entitled to his/her own opinions.  We do not all have to agree.

Those of us who HAVE gotten (permanent) results would have to disagree with you, in all due respect.

Many of the pills, potions, and gadgets are hoaxes and--they're a waste of money. --That's very true.

btw--taking Viagra and using a vacuum pump are NOT the same "methods" although granted--the results are only temporary at best. (Vacuum pumping can produce some permanent results however, if the effort is made long-term.  It's not going to add 5 inches however! )
Viagra induces increased blood circulation to where more blood flows into the genital area for NATURAL erections.  Vaccum pumping, by changing the surrounding air pressure around the penis (technically the inner corpus cavernosa or inner penile chambers) creates a "forced" erection by trapping the blood and lymph fluids for an extended period of time.

It's a good idea to tell men that PE is not easy and there are no guarantees for the same success for every man.  But, to say outright that ANY penis enlargement method is bogus--is simply incorrect. It's not telling the truth.

There are way too many men who, after trying and staying with a PE regimen long-term---well, we simply know better.    I think some of us are even laughing a bit at this notion that PE doesn't work. 'Makes us feel even better now,  for all our hard work!   ;)

Just like other areas of life...improvement of any kind doesn't come easy.  If growing a bigger penis (reasonably bigger by say an inch or so) is important enough, then many men will simply accept it's going to take concentrated effort and a lot of hard work.  The easy over-night wonder programs will soon be dismissed as hogwash. For about every ten men who try PE, only two will stay with it long enough to get results...(or, so I read months ago).  I believe that statistic.  Makes sense.  The others who give up can often cast a negative light on the subject of PE (understandably so) yet wrongly so. They didn't give PE a fair chance to work for them and they speak ill of it thereafter.

--Is this really fair then, to men who might want to try PE...(and perhaps would succeed?) to be so easily dissuaded to even bother beginning it?
 
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Jim31415: [quote author=tripod2004 and partner link=board=pe;num=1081118353;start=0#0 date=04/04/04 at 15:30:13]Vacuum pumps do work in the same way as viagra- by increasing blood supply. [/quote]

Temporary? Problably.

Same as Viagra by increasing blood supply? Wrong.

Vacuum pumping doesn't work through increasing the blood supply, it swells the penis by exposing it to low pressure and accumulating bodily fluid in the penis. Take a look at a penis that has been pumped, it looks puffy and swollen similar to a body part that has been infected and fluids build up in the area of the infection.

You're doing as much a disservice to people by giving them this wrong information as do quacks selling pills (or pumps) who talk about 5" permanant gains.
 

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You know, it's pessimistic and negative attitudes like tripod & company that almost made me give up on my dreams & doing what I really wanted to do when I was in school. The fact is, Tripod, pumping, and jelqing have been proven to produce positive results in penis enlargement. I can't possibly guess why you would try and undermind anyone's thought at trying penile enlargement, except that maybe you yourself have tried and nothing happened, or you're an egotist.
 
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tripod2004: All you are doing is strengthening your erection by pumps or viagra. You WILL see an extension but this temporary. No I haven't tried these myself but I don't feel the need. You still haven't explained why everone isn't walking around with inch longer dicks and why so many opt for the knife and why the method you think will work isn't out there in the newspapers and o n TV - like viagra was. Biologically it can't happen.
 
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Solis24: hmm, there isn't only pumping that can give you permanent growth, and pumping can only achieve that under certain precise circumstances and it's anything but efficient. it takes a lot of discipline, of doing it many times a week in a controlled regimen for months on end, if not years, to get any permament increase in size (mostly girth as far as i know) which is pretty rare but not impossible. I myself have a buddy who has achieved significant increase in length and girth through a mixture of pumping and jelqing. It took him ages! but in the end, it worked and he's still at it...

as i mentioned, there's not just pumping but jelqing as well. i hear it's more effective for length. same here, it takes a LOT of time and patience and commitment. I tried it myself but I'm too fucking lazy and undisciplined and forgetful to get anywhere. I would suspect it's just lack of information and similar laziness that would cause people not to engage into any such thing. besides, where does it say that every man's goal would be to have a larger penis? the only ways we have of increasing penis size are extremely time-consuming and most people would prefer to invest their time elsewhere. i suppose i can't blame them! even though I DO have a fair amount of respect for the boys who do bother with the whole program and then enjoy the results. cheers guys.
 
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tripod2004: Excellent reply solis. But I stand by what I, and most other biologists, say. And yes, why should an extra inch be an ambition or 'dream'?
 
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Krowax: I can only speak for myself when I say that I've seen these excersises (stretching, jelqing, squeezing) work for me. I've taken long breaks (2 months) and lost no gains etc, so I believe these gains are permanent as long as they are "cemented".

In 1 year, I've gained 1" length and 0.5" girth.
 
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Buzzy: Studies that have been conducted to explore options for patients with Carpal Tunnel Syndrome demonstrated that some tissues, to include ligaments, will adapt to constant traction by permanently lengthening.

Since some of the techniques that men use to lengthen their penis are, in effect, methods of stretching the supporting ligaments, I propose that their reported success results from stretching these tissues to allow more of the penis to extend from the body. However, it would take a significant amount of time to produce this result.

For disclosure, I have been applying traction to my penis for about three hours/day over the last few months. The weight program was given to me by my surgeon after undergoing penis enlargement surgery. So, all of the gains in length that I have seen to this point may simply be a result of the surgical procedure.
 
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tripod2004: The replies, so far, confirm that is impossible to extend the length of the penis unless extreme action is taken which could injure the underlying tissue. A years pulling and massage for what? About an inch. I'm certainly not doubting previous messages but wonder whether wishful thinking is playing a part.
I've been pulling and massaging mine for a lot longer in a far more pleaserable way and couldn't care less if it grew or not
-if you get my point!
 
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Faircrest: Tripod,

It appears to be quite an extensive process, but there are numerous examples that jelquing and other methods are effective. I have not used them myself (I am happy with what I have) but why would all of the members of those enlargement sites do all of that work (posting excercise routines, painfully measuring gains, reporting back to the PE group...in addition to the actual jelquing and pumping) only for it NOT to work. That seems unlikely.

I think it is just a difficult process that is not for everyone. It takes a dedicated person to go through all of that, and I do not believe it is worth the trouble. (all tho I am speaking from someone already endowed, I would prolly have a different take if I was on the smaller side.)
 
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Jimbo: Tripod et al:

Actually the pulling/massaging that is primarily masturbation is not usually of the intensity to cause any change in penis size.  Using an enlargment regimen places specific focus on a repetitive, very specific and more intensive kinds of exercises and/or a traction device to place an extended (timewise) stretch on the penis (hanging weights do the same thing).  The vacuum pump can augment the program (as long as it is not overdone to the point that servere lymphatic swelling results), by engorging the penis to beyond its normal erect volume, then using the jelqing and/or traction/weights to help "set" the gains.

To make a blanket statement like you have, especially since you have not TRIED any enlargment technique i feel is unfairly prejudicial.  Truth is, the reason most men DON'T enlarge is not because the techniques dont work, it is because they are happy with what they have, in spite of the hype surrounding the "enlargement" business, that attempts to make them feel "too small". Also, a serious regimen takes TIME and DEDICATION (measured in YEARS) and a lot who start, give up prematurely, because they fall for the "3 inches in 6 weeks" HYPE that accompanies a lot of the so-called "regimens" that are sold on the  net.

There are sites not driven by ANY commericial advertising that are enlargement forums where dedicated "PE'ers"  share different techniques that WORK.  i suggest you visit one of them before making a blanket statement that really has NO basis in FACT.

Yes, i HAVE tried jelqing and YES i have gained 1/2 inch in girth and it is PERMANENT.
 
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danoli_aol_com: I'd just like to note that my erection on viagra is not only longer lassting but extreamely full. which makes it a bit bigger then my normal errection. jelqing made the tissue area larger but natrally only so much blood goes there but viagra forces extra blood in and fills in the stretched area. perhaps using a combination of pumping jelqing and viagra is the key for you guys who want to be bigger.
 
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tripod2004: I genuinely do not want to sound offensive or appear to challenge members experiences. If I have, I apologise. But- like all 'well developed' guys on this site, I know that we can all get the extra 1/'2'' by pushing the ruler in harder and really forcing the penis. But, and its nothing to do with 'sites I have or have not visited' but simply that the urethra can only appear stretched if it is physically pulled from the body. But I disagree with those who say it is possible but has not had the publicity as, say, viagra has. If I REALLY knew of a method of extending the penis I would earn a fortune. But I don't. If you guys can get a real growth then for god's sake market it and make money! But you don't.
 
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Jimbo: Tripod et al:

You living in a bubble?  there are DOZENS of enlargement systems being marketed, a large number based on essentially similar jelquing/stretching routines.  However it is not required to buy ANY of these so-called "systems" due to the large amount of free information, complete with the progress reports of guys who are dedicated to enlarging which u can find on the PE forums.  I dont understand why u still insist PE does not work,even after testimony from LPSG members  here AND hundreds of guys you can observe and/or personally contact from the PE forums to find out how THEY did it.  Is everyone on those sites living out a fantasy? I dont think so.

Fact is the human body adapts to a continued stress in various ways. In the case of penis enlargement, it is the way the stress is applied that causes the permanent change.  Whether or not you agree with that does not negate that fact.  It has NOTHING to do with pushing a ruler against the pubic bone.  How does that account for my change in GIRTH?  I am NOT selling any PE system, so what is MY motivation to LIE?
 
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Faircrest: [quote author=Jimbo link=board=pe;num=1081118353;start=0#16 date=04/08/04 at 11:22:57]Tripod et al:

I am NOT selling any PE system, so what is MY motivation to LIE?[/quote]

That is essentially why I believe enlargement works. Why would ANYONE on the free sites (such as thunders) go through all of that bull? What would be their motivation to Lie about their gains? Very unlikely.

Ken
 
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tripod2004: Ever one to compromise I'll accept that the penis MAY stretch 1/2''. But thats it! I refuse to accept that 2 to 4'' gains are possible for fully developed organs. In the UK any technique realising these gains would be headline news! That's what people admit to and quite honestly, who cares about 1/2''? I have talked to others about this and they are surprised so many people are taken in by profit or non profit making techniques. I think it's insensitive for these people getting others' hopes up.
 
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tripod2004: One final point, you'll be relieved to hear. I've looked back at most of the previous topics relating to penis growth. There are more replies claiming it doesn't necessarily work than there are positive results. Only one claims 1/2'' and thats it.
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