100% Straight

[Hatt_101]

Believe what ever you want but that won't change the fact there are people who are 100% Straight (not str8) and 100% gay. There are people on this web site that don't believe bi sexuals exist doesn't change the fact that they exist.

Just because you are not straight doesn't mean that we don't exist.

I do agree with what you said about those guys that call them selves that to look "better" in the public eye. But I really don't think people are against bi and gay men as much as sone people think but I guess it all depends in where you live too.

 

[bloodshot69]

There's no such thing as %100 str8. It's against nature's order. Because in nature, everything is intertwined. Nothing is simple as black and white. Everything is a mix of things. Nothing about human behavior is solid as rock. We are humans. We change.

But there's hypocrisy of so called str8 men that love to buttslap their teammates/best friends/ bros, make out with them when they get drunk, watch str8 porn together and jerk, share a pussy together and still call themselves %100 str8. Because they love to have the str8 privilige in the heterosexist world system. They don't want to carry the gay stigma. Whatever gay thing they commit, they call themselves str8, since they have wives, girlfriends, kids etc. Because unlike us, unlike the men who are more into men than women and thus identify themselves gay, they are more into women than they are into men. Behind the closed doors, str8 men do everything they want with other so called %100 str8 men. Believe me, their gay stories are much colorful than ours since they experiment every homoerotic thing without being labelled as gay. I really hate this hypocrisy.

I never believed in %100 str8 men and will never believe them. I am 28 now and life has taught me that every %100 str8 man has homosexual secrets which he will not reveal to anyone ever.

This hypocrisy makes our lives harder. %100 str8 men can not face their bi sides and don't want to come out as bisexuals since they want to enjoy the str8 privilege and hegemony throughout their lives.

I can't tell if you're being serious or purposefully trying to inflame people. The vast majority of the world is 100% straight. Just because you tend to associate with people that aren't doesn't change reality. In the past, society would say that there's really no such thing as gay people and you should just ignore those tendencies. As a society we've come to accept and agree that that viewpoint is not just wrong but offensive to the gay community. Why are you using the same rhetoric in reverse?

 

[Hatt_101]

i cannot agree you are either born straight bi or gay it is not something you choose to be. society can try to force one way of life on some one but that is why there are so many people that are closeted or get a sex change later in life. they dont do that because they some how changed it was the way they were born.

believe it or not there are men out there and many here who have absolutely no attraction to men.

as you can see here there are those that dont even believe in Bi sexuality ive never met a bi sexual man before but i wouldnt say they dont exist

 

[Lord_of_Goon]

U learn to be straight? That's asinine. Humans are reproductive animals. We have sex to multiply. And last I checked u need a male and a female. Henceforth u should be attracted to the opposite sex.

 

[bloodshot69]

I am quite serious. Btw, how do you know about the majority of 6 billion people's %100 str8ness? Majority is bisexual to differing extents. That's what researchers said/say. But this majority never comes out as bisexuals because they don't want to lose the str8 privilege.

Are you sure?There has been no time and space in human history that gays were ignored. They were either accepted or killed. No one denied their existence.

I am not using the same rhetoric. I just want people to be honest which is a very hard quest for them.

You're dead wrong. Studies have shown that roughly 10% of the population is gay and/or bi.

EDIT: Looks like the 10% data is even way too high. Obviously this is people self identifying, but even if you double all the numbers you don't get 10%...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...he-u-s-population-is-gay-lesbian-or-bisexual/

This stub on Wiki shows the total being 3.8%...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_demographics_of_the_United_States

 

[bloodshot69]

For example, many %100 str8 men believe that although they might have slept with hundreds of women until now, those 4-5 men/trannies they slept/made out/jerked , will sleep/make out/jerk with do not make a difference in their self-identification. Because they are sticked to this str8ness label. However, it makes a difference. It shows that at some points in your life, you are experimenting with your homosexual feelings. You are just a human, you don't need to stick to a label . Human experience can not be classified simply into percentages. We are complex.

Where do you get the idea that "many" straight men have played with other guys at some point? Considering you're gay I think your ideas are being skewed by who you're hanging out with. I have a lot of friends, most of which are straight, and I can say with great confidence that I highly doubt almost any of them have played with other men.

I get that sexuality is fluid for some people, but it's definitely not for many of us, and I'd venture to say most of us. Just the idea of a man touching me is revolting on a sexual level, I wouldn't be able to get aroused in any way. Saying that, I'm fully in support of gay rights in all ways, it's just definitely not for me.

 

[Hatt_101]

You cannot speak for everyone your sexuality may be fluid but mine is not just like the other guys commenting is not.

What do you say to the people that don't believe that bi sexuality exists?

Society does prefer straight but people are born that way. The people that were taught to be one way are the one that come out later in life after years of denying who they were.

And things to day at least in Ontario are very accepting of gay men, I've seen gay men in public that are not hiding who they are because it pretty well accepted.

Saying everyone is born bi is competly ridiculous.

 

[Brisler]

There must be some kind of bias in out nature towards heterosexuality. Reproduction is in our nature, and from a natural point of view heterosexual activity is necessary. That being said, the urge to reproduce is not absent in gays. The only problem I have with cockaddictedboy's point of view is that it makes it somewhat it somewhat hard to explain how people end up being attracted to the same sex only.

Anyway, I do tend to agree with him. I do not believe that people are born with a predefined sexuality. There is no doubt that sexuality is a cultural construct to at least some degree. Claiming otherwise is, from my point of view, obviously wrong. If that was the case, how do you explain widespread homoeroticism in Ancient Greece, for example. Was it because the Greeks just happened to give birth to a lot of bisexuals by some wildly improbable coincidence? Or was it because their cultural views on sexuality were radically different from our own, meaning that homoeroticism wasn't surrounded by taboos and that people weren't expected to be straight? I find the latter much more likely.

So yeah, I agree with cockaddictedboy. But it hardly matters to me. Whether it's because of chromosomes or some kind of cultural manipulation, I feel straight. I'm not attracted to men, and it's something that's so hardly wired into my brain that I can't change it. And I have no desire whatsoever to change it. No matter what happens, you'll be highly influenced by your surroundings. There's no need to make that a universally bad thing.

 

[Popyuu]

You cannot speak for everyone your sexuality may be fluid but mine is not just like the other guys commenting is not.

What do you say to the people that don't believe that bi sexuality exists?

Society does prefer straight but people are born that way. The people that were taught to be one way are the one that come out later in life after years of denying who they were.

And things to day at least in Ontario are very accepting of gay men, I've seen gay men in public that are not hiding who they are because it pretty well accepted.

Saying everyone is born bi is competly ridiculous.

No, he actually can speak for the sexual fluidity of all people on this planet. He has that right. And it was given to him from birth. So yes he has every right to dictate what sex people are because he's apparently the god of gods. Hell i have a glass of water next to me right now. And i was just about to ask him to turn it into wine.

I don't think you fully understand what i'm saying hatt. His words ARE gospel. And you should be thankful he took time out of his walking on water/causing massive floods/whatever else gods do day to impart his sexual wisdom upon those unworthy of speaking for themselves and their personal experiences. And no this has nothing to do with his massive planet sized ego with a side of entitlement. That sort of thing doesn't exist in him. No, he's speaking from on high as the most high. His words are so powerful that i'm surprised his post has yet to have turned into a stone tablet etched with lightening bolts.

Over 7 billion people alive today hatt. And he speaks for. Wait. He's also speaking for every person that has lived and will live. So umm that numbers much larger. But still he's right. Every last human being to ever be born is bi. Why can't you deal with those astronomical numbers hatt? They're just numbers. Sure, a whole helleva lot of numbers but he's right about every last person ever. How could he not be right about so many people?

I have some very stern advice for you hatt. You should find a way to travel to where he lives just so you can shake the hand of a god! Sure, you could just settle for picking up a copy of the avengers or something and reading about a couple gods that way. Or take a trip to the library. But screw that noise. You have a living breathing...wait. Do gods breath? Well anyway. He knows when you are sleeping. He knows when you are awake. He knows when you're masturbating. And hopefully he knows to have a sense of humor, cause man did i have fun writing all of that. :biggrin1:

 

[BIGBULL29]

I sometimes get aroused by kissing dudes/little feeling up of certain dudes in gay night clubs (rarely do it these days). But I don't like actual sex with men because it bores me, more or less (doesn't repulse me at all unless it's fisting). It's just like an appetizer. Then I want a big-titted blonde with a beautiful tight pussy.

I watch mostly straight and lesbian porn. And when I think of actual sex, it's usually fucking pussy. I watch gay porn, but not very often. It's mainly for the kissing and feeling up and not the actual sex.

Most are not like me: it's the sex that the curious men want, not the kissing or intimacy.

Explain me? LOL

 

[Hatt_101]

Popyuu I legit laughed out loud

 

[twoton]

I think the percentage of gays is somewhere around 2.5%, a figured generally agreed to by advocacy groups.

 

[twoton]

the stories those men tell show that a reasonable amount of men did something homoerotic either in their puberty or adulthood.

But what counts as homoerotic?

I think it must necessarily have a sexual component that is recognized by the participants at the time it's happening.

A group of guys skinny dipping isn't homoerotic at all, unless they're sexually aroused by it.

 

[Popyuu]

Popyuu I legit laughed out loud

:biggrin1:

 

[Brisler]

I don't understand why you guys oppose so strongly to what he says. Do you really think that people are born with a certain sexuality?

I think it's an extremely common stance that sexuality develops throug a variety of factors during childhood. That means that society, culture, family etc. plays a huge role, basically that sexuality is a social construct. The idea that people are born with a specific sexuality has been thoroughly debunked to the best of my knowledge. Does that mean that everyone is bisexual? No, not at all. Does it mean that sexuality is somewhat modeled by social structures? Yes, I believe so. Whatever the reason, I am straight. The idea of eating a newly laid piece of shit is more appealing to me than the idea of sucking dick. And that will most likely never change. I'm not ashamed that society has modeled me that way, it's just how it is. But in a different time, in a different universe, I think it could very well have been different.

 

[bloodshot69]

I don't understand why you guys oppose so strongly to what he says. Do you really think that people are born with a certain sexuality?

I think it's an extremely common stance that sexuality develops throug a variety of factors during childhood. That means that society, culture, family etc. plays a huge role, basically that sexuality is a social construct. The idea that people are born with a specific sexuality has been thoroughly debunked to the best of my knowledge. Does that mean that everyone is bisexual? No, not at all. Does it mean that sexuality is somewhat modeled by social structures? Yes, I believe so. Whatever the reason, I am straight. The idea of eating a newly laid piece of shit is more appealing to me than the idea of sucking dick. And that will most likely never change. I'm not ashamed that society has modeled me that way, it's just how it is. But in a different time, in a different universe, I think it could very well have been different.

What is this 1950 again? The idea that sexuality is learned is what's been debunked. You are born with your sexual preferences, that's what's been accepted by all medical and psychological studies for a very long time. Sure, some people try to ignore/suppress their sexuality because of societal pressures and it may come out in them later in life, but yes, we're born with our sexuality. That's pretty much 100% accepted by anyone who studies sexuality or works in the psychiatric industry at this point.

 

[Brisler]

What is this 1950 again? The idea that sexuality is learned is what's been debunked. You are born with your sexual preferences, that's what's been accepted by all medical and psychological studies for a very long time. Sure, some people try to ignore/suppress their sexuality because of societal pressures and it may come out in them later in life, but yes, we're born with our sexuality. That's pretty much 100% accepted by anyone who studies sexuality or works in the psychiatric industry at this point.

I may have been too vague. I am not suggesting in any way that children are born without a sexuality. I am not suggesting that sexuality is strictly influenced by environmental factors. That would mean that a change of environment could result in an alteration of ones sexuality, meaning that sexuality is a choice to some extend. That is not what I intended to say. My point is that the ideas of "straight", "gay" or "bi" are social constructs. People are not born into such a category, because those categories don't exist outside the boundaries of society. My pint is basically: children are born with a sexuality which is then molded to fit into categories predetermined by society. Hence the comment about people being more likely to express their sexuality in a completely different way in cultures that had social constructs different to those of ours.

I don't think sexuality is radically different than gender in that sense.

 

[wofg]

You guys seriously can not get my point. Please read some things on gender. There you will see how sexuality is a matter of nurture, not nature.

Uhhh coming from studying neuroscience and reading a lot about sexuality, people's sexuality is determined by nature AND nurture. It's definitely neither 100% nature nor 100% nurture. It's a mix of both. Depending on the environment, nurture may influence a tad bit more than your biological makeup, but there's no denying the power of genes, people!

 

[bloodshot69]

I may have been too vague. I am not suggesting in any way that children are born without a sexuality. I am not suggesting that sexuality is strictly influenced by environmental factors. That would mean that a change of environment could result in an alteration of ones sexuality, meaning that sexuality is a choice to some extend. That is not what I intended to say. My point is that the ideas of "straight", "gay" or "bi" are social constructs. People are not born into such a category, because those categories don't exist outside the boundaries of society. My pint is basically: children are born with a sexuality which is then molded to fit into categories predetermined by society. Hence the comment about people being more likely to express their sexuality in a completely different way in cultures that had social constructs different to those of ours.

I don't think sexuality is radically different than gender in that sense.

You want something to exist that doesn't. Do you think animals that have been observed to have participated in homosexual behavior did it because they were conditioned that way through some animal society? Sexuality is something you're born with. Straight, bi, and gay aren't social "constructs", they're descriptive words to describe behavior of sexual attraction. The only way society effects one's sexuality is in regard to acceptance or repression. If you grow up in an area where there's less bigotry towards gay/bi people you probably won't feel a need to try and suppress your natural homosexual instincts, if indeed you were born with them, and vice versa if you grew up in a more repressed area. You can still be a homosexual even if you try your entire life to suppress acting on it, it doesn't change how you feel and what your urges actually are.

 

[someperson]

There must be some kind of bias in out nature towards heterosexuality. Reproduction is in our nature, and from a natural point of view heterosexual activity is necessary. That being said, the urge to reproduce is not absent in gays. The only problem I have with cockaddictedboy's point of view is that it makes it somewhat it somewhat hard to explain how people end up being attracted to the same sex only.

Can only blame the mom


My mom is wried when it comes to girlfriends and dating (my sister acts the same way )
exactly what are trying to save me from ?

I save my self the trouble of not wasting my time with such