This is a little broad for my liking, the idea of painting everyone in one group, with the same brush. The average white man isn’t a “swinger”, or goes to watch male strippers with his wife/girlfriend (This sounds like a bisexual fantasy, more than anything) Or is obsessed with black men’s so called BBC. This is just so far removed from the average experience, or the average males experience full stop, in the real world, regardless of ethnicity. Unless you are permanently online, addicted to porn or “out there” sexually.
I’m under no illusions about racism and the fetishisation of Black men/women, but let’s keep things in perspective, and not try to tarnish a whole group of people.
I also see a lot of posters almost trying to push the narrative that Black men could care less about penis size, or are immune to worrying about size. Which is bullshit, really. The vast majority of men worry about penis size to some degree, even if it just a brief moment in their lives, or whether it’s more ingrained. Even when dating within their own communities.
These types of threads pick up all types of suspect/Borderline racist views, to varying degrees, sadly. There’s a Healthy group of black posters who come here solely to disparage white mens penis size. In the same way there are many posts from white posters who are obsessed with talking down black men, whether for their physical attributes, or oddly, even their personality and character.
You learn a lot from other view points and perspectives, but it can also be a bit off putting at the same time. Seeing people with obvious or low key racist view points…I find these types of posters to be the most insecure of all, and the most invested in this type of debate.
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I know a black man with a 7+ inch cock who says he knows he has a big cock but still has anxiety getting naked with partners of any race because he doesn't have the porn glorified mandingo sized cock. He could be the biggest cock that partner has ever seen irl, but does it meet their expectations after seeing black men in porn?
Black men in general are not hyper-focused on penis size the way men of other races are. The focus that other men have is comparative but to a much greater degree when it comes to comparisons to black men's penises. Are there some that focus on penis size? Yea. If you spend anytime looking at the comments an pictures from any PE group you will find that black men are very sparse within those kinds of groups. Furthermore, many black men have experienced some form of inappropriateness or sexual harassment from other men and even women. A lot of times that inappropriateness is associated to their penis by way of comment or unwanted touching. By way of those kinds of interactions you naturally become more guarded so that such unwanted comments or advancements don't happen again. It's been said that black men are worried about not fitting the "BBC" stereotype and therefore are hiding their cocks in spaces where nudity is expected (gym locker rooms). I've noticed black men aren't as likely to get completely naked in those spaces but I know why also. I am a black man and I have no issue being naked in front of others in the locker rooms and the showers but I also notice eyes are always drifting in my direction from men of other races. There is no harm in looking but sometimes it can go beyond that and get weird fast. Most black men don't want that kind of attention whether they are average sized or hung. People are aware that people are in locker rooms getting footage to post online and that's a big fear of a lot of people.
I don't think about this. I think you think this is a thread against interracial dating. It's not about someone dating interracially. There is no problem with that. The problem is fetishism of someone due to their race. To answer your question though, maybe the black guy has a fetish for white chicks/white bottoms. It's definitely possible but there are people who only date or hookup with a specific race in all racial groups. You see this with white women only dating black guys and white bottoms proclaiming they only want black men for sexual hookups. I do think those people could be fetishizing one another. I tend to feel sorry for the unlucky person who might not want to be the source of fetish and are wanting to be valued fully as a human. I can't really speak to white women and white bottoms feeling fetishized because that is not my experience but I would love to see more white women and white bottoms speak up on their experiences. One thing that I do know statistically is that interracial marriages between black men and white women have a higher failure rate and I suspect it's due to one or both of the partners having a racialized fetish and that eventually runs it's course. Black women with white men statistically have marriages that last longer and are more fulfilling for both partners.
After many years of perusing porn. There is the above average and below average in everything.
Breaking it down into Racial figures, as the post mentions...white, Europeans etc are in the minority.
If you break it down to Large Cocks per capita of population or race. Well, the math takes care of itself. Spose it depends on the market it's being sold to. Courtesy of Wikipedia...Large black cocks outnumber large European, Asian, Pacifica and Polynesian cocks.............oh yeah....and Penguin cocks, they have to be included because they are paying a 10% tariff....(Included in DJT graph)![Population_pyramid_of_the_world_in_continental_groupings_2023.svg.png]( "Population_pyramid_of_the_world_in_continental_groupings_2023.svg.png")
Current world population and latest projection according the UN. Population in (millions) and percent of the global population in that year.[30]
Breaking it down into Racial figures, as the post mentions...white, Europeans etc are in the minority.
If you break it down to Large Cocks per capita of population or race. Well, the math takes care of itself. Spose it depends on the market it's being sold to. Courtesy of Wikipedia...Large black cocks outnumber large European, Asian, Pacifica and Polynesian cocks.............oh yeah....and Penguin cocks, they have to be included because they are paying a 10% tariff....(Included in DJT graph)
Current world population and latest projection according the UN. Population in (millions) and percent of the global population in that year.[30]
| Region | 2022 (percent) | 2030 (percent) | 2050 (percent) |
|---|---|---|---|
| Sub-Saharan Africa | 1,152 (14.51%) | 1,401 (16.46%) | 2,094 (21.62%) |
| Northern Africa and Western Asia | 549 (6.91%) | 617 (7.25%) | 771 (7.96%) |
| Southern and Central Asia | 2,065 (26.13%) | 2,248 (26.41%) | 2,575 (26.58%) |
| Eastern Asia[31] | 1,642 (20.71%) | 1,647 (19.32%) | 1,522 (15.71%) |
| Southeastern Asia[31] | 675 (8.49%) | 721 (8.47%) | 771 (7.95%) |
| Europe and North America | 1120 (14.10%) | 1129 (13.26%) | 1125 (11.61%) |
| Latin America and the Caribbean | 658 (8.29%) | 695 (8.17%) | 749 (7.73%) |
| Australia/New Zealand | 31 (0.39%) | 34 (0.40%) | 38 (0.39%) |
| Other Oceania | 14 (0.18%) | 15 (0.18%) | 20 (0.21%) |
| World | 7,942 | 8,512 | 9,687 |
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I never said that this is true for all straight white men.
Men are attracted to large penises in a general sense. That's why porn is full of big cocks in straight porn. And black men are stereotyped to be well-hung, so that's that.
No, not all men are interested in being a bull or a cuck -- that's common sense. Just like not at all men are attracted to skinny women with no tits.
Yes, in the swinging world/cuck, men like to see women pleased by bulls, albeit a male stripper, etc. Not all do that, though. Even within the hotwifing/cuckhold lifestyle, there is not one set way you have to be. Some men are full-on bisexual, while others are only very light bisexual.
A man's liking to watch male strippers dance for women does not make him gay or bi. Women watch women strip for men, and many of them are not considered lesbians or bisexual. "Some" men like to see sexy men sexually satisfy women.
I would argue that white men do see black men as male sex toys (not to the extent they see women). Never every dude will. But, in the same token, if a group of young men know a white man is well-hung because he makes porn, they will fetishize him to some degree. But with black men, it's more of a given because of the BBC stereotype.
I generally agree with you, especially with regards to being fetishised in porn and online sex circles, but I completely disagree with the idea that Black men aren’t focused on penis size, in the same way other ethnicities are. That’s quite unfounded in my opinion, and seems to be coming from a personal perspective more than anything.
It’s a natural human trait to want to live up to physical or beauty expectations, whether that’s height, physique, Penis size or facial features. Body dysmorphia and expectations are alive and well in all communities, including both men and women, straight, gay, trans…
Even within the African American community, or the Black British community, there is competition with regards to penis size, in the same way there is in White or Asian ethnic groups. I’ve seen both black, Asian and white women disparaging their ex partners for being under endowed or not as big as as there new partners after breaking up. It’s tacky, but it very much exists. Even outside of interracial relationships…
And especially with racial stereotypes, racism and ridiculous expectations from porn, it’s arguably more enhanced in Black men. Having to live up to unrealistic size expectations. And yes, smaller or average black men are less likely to show off in these corners of the internet, or in public nudity scenarios.
In my experience, websites like LPSG and PE forums are small corners of the internet, your average person doesn’t even know they exist. And most of it is generally anonymous.
There are a boat load of “enhanced” Black male porn stars, arguably as many as there are white ones, for example. They all generally have one thing in common, they deny and lie about it. Which generally shows that there is a stigma and expectation in terms of penis size.
I was meaning to get back to this. I'm not American so no real dog in this fight, but tying this back to the occasional capitalism on the BBC stereotype (not with the terminology necessarily) by black people themselves within certain things, say porn or rap, including in several popular female rap songs and occasionally male (like a few different references by Kendrick) it's fine to want to reclaim things, but it's a little unrealistic to package and sell certain things for everyone's availability and still fully control how that's received and processed by everyone including those outside your group.
You may feel like 'morally' you've reclaimed certain things (FWIW despite some alarmists I don't really sense much of a serious appetite for bringing racially-specific insults back into the mainstream) but if you want to have fully reclaimed it's harder when there are still many within the community/demographic willing to still 'sell' it to everyone afterwards. A convo about cooling it with the myth of black men being larger could happen (or be happening) within the black community itself I guess.
You may not like to hear this but in a way I think it is a compliment. I'm from New Zealand and the entertainment industry here (such as it is) and state-funded stuff in general have been trying to make Maori (the non-white native people here) language and cultural stuff 'cool' for a solid few years now. They've really pushed to try and make it more mainstream but I don't think many people here are really buying into it, it feels quite forced.
US black-led music styles for instance have always been quite popular for instance, but nowadays the images and styles/sounds/etc. associated with black music VS stereotypically white music are very noticeably separated, yet it seems like stereotypically black music is more generally popular than ever. Going back to a New Zealand comparison, I get that it sucks to be stereotyped (or copied by outsiders etc.) but at least you guys are seen as cool, sexy etc. by many outsiders
. Many minority groups are quite insulated culturally, or else ignored by the majority (whatever/wherever that happens to be).Appealing Because he is Appalling: Black Masculinities, Colonialism, and Erotic Racism. This book is a collection of essays that essentially cover this idea of black male fetishism from it's inception from enslavement and colonial rule to the present. I wouldn't expect most to want to understand that deeply but incase there are this is something you should read at some point. I would definitely encourage black men to read this book.
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Technically the average difference between said BWC and BBCs are pretty slim and it’s more of a human nature liking what’s different, similar happens with BWC and Asian stuff, as people like to fantasize and match different races with certain differences, so it can be categorized under raceplay and interracial stuff
All races have examples of very large sizes and usually the other race fetishizes said race instead of them doing it to their own, naturally what’s different and alien to people becomes interesting (and hot)
All races have examples of very large sizes and usually the other race fetishizes said race instead of them doing it to their own, naturally what’s different and alien to people becomes interesting (and hot)
A porn actor talks about what happens behind "IR" (interracial) business:
up to 42:31 (duration 01:16)
up to 42:31 (duration 01:16)
It's funny to me that washed up black male pornstars are singing like a bird about the "racism" that goes on in the porn industry but they are complicit. You don't get to complain now that you are no longer a top pornstar.
The old saying "you don't bite the hand that feeds you" applies here. And now the industry is not feeding them they can tell it like it is. I mean once you get fired from your job is when you have no fear of telling your story. It's a story as old as time. Hello #metoo.
Imagine being that big headed and arrogant that you somehow believe your so called “race” is somehow less immune to worrying about penis size. Or any other form of body dysmorphia or physical expectations for that matter.
It’s the equivalent of saying shorter Black men don’t worry about their height. Overweight black men don’t worry about body image. Or Black women don’t worry about Breast size or body type. It’s human nature. And especially with the added pressures of stereotypes, porn and social media, it’s just reality.
Whether of European, Middle Eastern, African, Asian, Native American, Polynesian or Melanesian, you will have both people who are obsessed with penis size and those who couldn’t care less. And most that are somewhere in the middle.
Then you’ve got people like @borg1125 talking about white gaze and validation while having the audacity to speak for Asian men:
“The Asian guys I have intersected in this life acknowledge they may not be the biggest tool in the shed and are completely OK with that”
Haha, you couldn’t make it up. How to combat racist stereotypes….by stereotyping other ethnic groups….
It’s the equivalent of saying shorter Black men don’t worry about their height. Overweight black men don’t worry about body image. Or Black women don’t worry about Breast size or body type. It’s human nature. And especially with the added pressures of stereotypes, porn and social media, it’s just reality.
Whether of European, Middle Eastern, African, Asian, Native American, Polynesian or Melanesian, you will have both people who are obsessed with penis size and those who couldn’t care less. And most that are somewhere in the middle.
Then you’ve got people like @borg1125 talking about white gaze and validation while having the audacity to speak for Asian men:
“The Asian guys I have intersected in this life acknowledge they may not be the biggest tool in the shed and are completely OK with that”
Haha, you couldn’t make it up. How to combat racist stereotypes….by stereotyping other ethnic groups….
He tells what happens behind the scenes. It's harder for sex workers to find a regular job after joining the industry, some of them have to deal with it to survive. Actors are just products for their agencies. By the way, he is still in the business right now.
As he said before, because of OF, he has control over his content now. Porn stars don't own their studio scenes.
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