kalipygian
Expert Member
Kevin, you are on a gay-friendly site. You simply cannot post that you think homosexuality is inherantly wrong, regardless of your reasons, and have it go unchallenged. For what it's worth, we've had extensive conversations as to why even in biblical terms, Jesus himself had very little to say on the subject, and it's questionable as to whether the words translated as "homosexual" were not in fact referring to church prostitution, which of course was frowned upon at the time. Since we no longer have church prostitutes, there wasn't a good translation.
Even were this not the case, there are plenty of things in the NT, such as referring to slaves obeying their masters. We don't condone slavery anymore, does that mean we're in conflict with the Bible? Of course not! Nowhere did Jesus say that his words were to be the last things we ever considered as time went on, in fact- Jesus never even directed anyone to record his words at all, so the Bible itself is not of Jesus.
Jesus made a huge public spectacle of disobeying the current laws of the church, and to miss that is to not understand very well why he was moved to preach. He was a reformer, who continually came out on the side of Loving your brother, and seeing to your own heart. You are saying nothing new or controversial here, and in fact, had we not fairly recently had an exhaustive set of discussions on the subject, you wouldn't be finding so many of us feeling pretty strongly that it's just not worth discussing yet again.
http://www.lpsg.org/et-cetera-et-cetera/43038-the-council-of-nicaea-325-a.html
There was a better one about religion and homosexuality, but I can't remember the title or who started it. perhaps one of our other members can find it. Neither of these threads turned into bitch-fests, nor were they bible-bashing. I hope someone does find the other thread, I think you'll find the opinions of many different perspectives represented.
Sorry, but there's just no polite way of saying that you think over half of our membership is somehow less deserving of rights because YOUR interpretation of the Bible says so. The world really isn't flat, black people certainly are equal human beings, and eventually the church will have to concede that gay people are too. Every time the church has to make an adjustment though, they do so kicking and screaming. They still do it, so why waste the energy to protest the inevitable?
edit- I have to take exception to your redress of JustAsking. Did you not read anything the man wrote? "Just saying what people want to hear"? Clearly, he brought up other sins that Jesus spent far more time talking about than homosexuality, why are THOSE sins not more important, if He talked about them more? I really want an answer to this.
The thread you are probably referring to is 'All Christians not Homophobic', started by Freddie53, in Etc.