Botched Circumcision=Penis Amputated

[jtm011]

South African doctors have successfully performed the world’s first penis transplant on a 21-year-old man whose organ had been amputated three years ago after a botched circumcision.

World's first penis transplant performed by South African doctors - The Globe and Mail

 

[821746]

Circumcision is soo stupid.

 

[GuillaumeBordeaux]

Circumcision is soo stupid.

Very. Only dumb asses do that to themselves, and pedophiles do that shit to their kids.

 

[matelalique]

At the risk of tossing a dry forest into a burning ember (as happened in Cape Town last week and left the bottom half of table mountain bare), let me place a little perspective.

(Can't believe it looks like I'm defending circumcision).

Here is the reality - at least one of the major tribes in South Africa (the Xhosa, who boast two black presidents out of three, Mandela and Mbeki), has circumcision as their rite to manhood shortly after puberty, and it goes back as long as they know. Two of my college educated buddies went through it, and I had some discussion with them. The incentive to do so seems to be that their dads and older brothers get them laid once they are circumcised to prove that they are men.

As a 14 year old boy (I'm not, mods), would you choose to have the end of your cock sliced off by a sharp rock or be a virgin, or not be a man, and not able to get laid by your tribe. This is the decision these young dudes face.

I think it is horrendous, but I don't think a white boy from Montreal has any idea of the complexities of this issue in south africa.

When South African doctors figure out how to solve a very relevant problem in my own home country - you go girl. And well done on saving penises when you can.

I think it is horrendous that circumcision still exists as a tribal activity, but it does. and that is for the Xhosa to figure out (and good luck with the Jews).

South Africa is looking at damage control and encouraging circumcision in sanitary environments rather than rocks on mountaintops.

 

[deleted704937]

As a 14 year old boy (I'm not, mods), would you choose to have the end of your cock sliced off by a sharp rock or be a virgin, or not be a man, and not able to get laid by your tribe. This is the decision these young dudes face.

It's unspeakable that anyone, anywhere should have to face such a decision in 2015 A.D. It took about fifteen minutes for the western world to mobilize and rally for human rights when it heard girls were getting their parts carved up. But for boys, there seems to be nothing anyone can do to elicit any response other than "Yeah, we already know; whatever" from most people. Sad and sick.

 

[matelalique]

It's unspeakable that anyone, anywhere should have to face such a decision in 2015 A.D. It took about fifteen minutes for the western world to mobilize and rally for human rights when it heard girls were getting their parts carved up. But for boys, there seems to be nothing anyone can do to elicit any response other than "Yeah, we already know; whatever" from most people. Sad and sick.

Absolutely - but I would question your fifteen minutes about girls - lots of people *also* claimed cultural sensitivity and many (Ethiopia and thereabouts) still do. Most American men over 35 and muslim men over the world (could do african analysis) have no issues with lack of foreskin. And the younguns often have a foreskin. In NA most have no choice anyway. Young dads - talk to your peeps about whether to circumcise your boys - you might find someone with a foreskin who has an opinion.

 

[someperson]

Absolutely - but I would question your fifteen minutes about girls - lots of people *also* claimed cultural sensitivity and many (Ethiopia and thereabouts) still do. Most American men over 35 and muslim men over the world (could do african analysis) have no issues with lack of foreskin. And the younguns often have a foreskin. In NA most have no choice anyway. Young dads - talk to your peeps about whether to circumcise your boys - you might find someone with a foreskin who has an opinion.

My opinion is


IT should be left up to the owner and no one else

It's not your dick after all

 

[Moez???]

Using this as an example of why circumcision is bad or wrong is like saying heart surgery is bad because a guy who performed open heart surgery on himself in the swamps of Florida.

This is a tribal tradition, and there needs to be move away from unsanitary medical procedures out in the wild. Leaving behind traditions is something humanity has always had problems dealing with, and always will have problems with.

But I guess when people equate circumcising your children with pedophilia, you can't expect them to be rational.

 

[BytByte]

Circumcision is soo stupid.

Without consulting the person you're doing it too, yeah, that's not too nice. But always remember that it is still a well documented medical procedure to help people when the foreskin doesn't cooperate.

 

[AlteredEgo]

Circumcision is soo stupid.

I agree with this most of the time.

Very. Only dumb asses do that to themselves, and pedophiles do that shit to their kids.

This is illogical red herrings.

 

[dirkjesje]

Using this as an example of why circumcision is bad or wrong is like saying heart surgery is bad because a guy who performed open heart surgery on himself in the swamps of Florida.

This is a tribal tradition, and there needs to be move away from unsanitary medical procedures out in the wild.

Circumcision can go wrong also in the Western world.
Remember the tragic life of Bruce Reimer ( 1965-2002 ).

Summary :
On 22 August 1965 Janet Reimer was granted her dearest wish: she gave birth to twins. The two boys, Brian and Bruce, were healthy babies, but they would lead tragic lives, blighted by one scientist's radical theory.
When they were seven months old, the boys, who lived in Winnipeg, Canada, were sent to the local hospital for a routine circumcision. Unfortunately the doctor in charge of the procedure was using electrical equipment, which malfunctioned several times. On the last trial, Bruce's entire penis was burnt off. Brian was not operated on. The family were distraught. In the Sixties plastic surgery was not an option: even today it is not recommended that new-borns undergo penis reconstruction operations.

Then he was raised as a girl - but he always felt like a boy.
In the end he committed suicide.

For the complete documentary :
Dr. Money and the Boy With No Penis - Top Documentary Films

P.S. If watching - have a box of Kleenex near to you.

 

[jtm011]

Circumcision can go wrong also in the Western world.
Remember the tragic life of Bruce Reimer ( 1965-2002 ).

Then he was raised as a girl - but he always felt like a boy.
In the end he committed suicide.

For the complete documentary :
Dr. Money and the Boy With No Penis - Top Documentary Films

That is the saddest, most disgusting thing I've heard all day.

 

[Moez???]

you are just as likely to win the lottery as have a botch circ in a sanitary hospital.

you are probably scared terrorists are going to get you TOMORROW WATCH OUT

 

[jtm011]

you are just as likely to win the lottery as have a botch circ in a sanitary hospital.

you are probably scared terrorists are going to get you TOMORROW WATCH OUT

On the contrary. I have seen several men of different ages with botched circumcisions done here in North America where the cut is imperfect and there's still skin/scar tissue connected that should have been cut. There's a medical term for this.

And as far as your fear tactics, this is the same type of fear tactic used in prudish America to promote circumcision in the first place.

Imagine if all of a sudden we used the same fear tactic to circumcise women the way they do in some parts of the world? What would the outcry be?

 

[GuillaumeBordeaux]

I agree with this most of the time.

This is illogical red herrings.

It's an adult holding down a child and manipulating their genitalia, resulting in significant damage, loss of tissue, physical pain and unknown mental/emotional damage [the jury is out on this and there have been publications on it, Dr.Ronald Goldman, Circumcision: The Hidden Trauma].

 

[jtm011]

Re: common botched circumcisions done in hospitals
The term is a "skin bridge" left from a botched routine circumcision. Here are some pictures:

http://cdn-thumbshot-all.pearltrees.com/5d/10/5d1032edb833857d979833b50323e2f3-pearlsquare.jpg
http://static.doccheck.com/pictures...45a42f0f4eddbdca74cdcc/50445/m_1407911826.jpg
http://cdn-scraplogo.pearltrees.com/91/ca/91ca25beeddca5cac2681ab067354cb5.jpg

And a medical article from Stanford regarding circumcision complications:
Circumcision - Newborn Nursery at LPCH - Stanford University School of Medicine

 

[deleted704937]

It's an adult holding down a child and manipulating their genitalia, resulting in significant damage, loss of tissue, physical pain and unknown mental/emotional damage [the jury is out on this and there have been publications on it, Dr.Ronald Goldman, Circumcision: The Hidden Trauma].

Violation of bodily autonomy, for sure. But calling it pedophilia is a stretch if not outright inaccurate, and it doesn't help our credibility to have that out floating around when most people already think we're just making a big deal out of nothing.

 

[lovinglife]

Circumcision is soo stupid.

Very. Only dumb asses do that to themselves, and pedophiles do that shit to their kids.

Ritualistic circumcision is stupid (ie infant circumcision and this south african tribal circumcision). A proper medical circumcision to an informed adult can be a very beneficial procedure that saves his penis and sex life.

 

[deleted704937]

Ritualistic circumcision is stupid (ie infant circumcision and this south african tribal circumcision). A proper medical circumcision to an informed adult can be a very beneficial procedure that saves his penis and sex life.

Or even just makes him feel good about himself. As far as I'm concerned, informed adult circumcisions don't even need a reason. But if it's happening on anyone who is under legal age and/or didn't know all the true facts forwards and backwards, someone had better be able to prove he was in immediate danger of death.

 

[Uncutsouthernboy]

The article says that 9 more are lined up to get the operation. Twenty died from the ritual in 2013 and 30 died in 2014. Seems to me that something in wrong.