Chat Changes December 2024

[carsonc]

Tbh, I understand them. There are always max 20...maybe 40ppl in that chat against thousands of ppl using the website. It must be very costy and it makes no sense. They may find a better solution and a good fusion of both old and new chat =)

that's absolutely understandable, and that seems to be the explanation we've received in the chat room throughout the day... that the cost didn't make sense given the use or lack thereof of the room.

however, what i think is most upsetting is how this has been handled. why wasn't a solution worked on before it got to this point, where they felt they had to just take the room down? why isn't the room being kept online during this period of solution-finding? why wasn't there any sort of notice that this would be happening?

the explanation of "we wanted to see what would happen and get feedback" is kind of offensive to me, tbh. we're not playthings to do experiments on (even though we do come here to play and experiment...). you could have asked us for our feedback without just removing the reason why many of us come to the site in the first place. sure, we're not a large number, but we're here nonetheless and now we feel like there's no reason to be. and then to say "it has worked"... well, yes, you definitely got to see what would happen and you got our feedback. it's just a pity it wasn't able to be done more constructively.

trying not to get too worked up over what is ultimately just an internet chat room, and definitely trying to keep this in perspective, but... it sucks when you've supported a space for almost an entire year, and then you show up one day and they've decided to take it down "to see what would happen." cool.

 

[B33FDICK]

Tbh, I understand them. There are always max 20...maybe 40ppl in that chat against thousands of ppl using the website. It must be very costy and it makes no sense. They may find a better solution and a good fusion of both old and new chat =)

might be an idea to feature random cammers on the landing page to drive people to chat. like a little window always rotating online cammers.

 

[SubbySlutForBigDick]

that's absolutely understandable, and that seems to be the explanation we've received in the chat room throughout the day... that the cost didn't make sense given the use or lack thereof of the room.

however, what i think is most upsetting is how this has been handled. why wasn't a solution worked on before it got to this point, where they felt they had to just take the room down? why isn't the room being kept online during this period of solution-finding? why wasn't there any sort of notice that this would be happening?

the explanation of "we wanted to see what would happen and get feedback" is kind of offensive to me, tbh. we're not playthings to do experiments on (even though we do come here to play and experiment...). you could have asked us for our feedback without just removing the reason why many of us come to the site in the first place. sure, we're not a large number, but we're here nonetheless and now we feel like there's no reason to be. and then to say "it has worked"... well, yes, you definitely got to see what would happen and you got our feedback. it's just a pity it wasn't able to be done more constructively.

trying not to get too worked up over what is ultimately just an internet chat room, and definitely trying to keep this in perspective, but... it sucks when you've supported a space for almost an entire year, and then you show up one day and they've decided to take it down "to see what would happen." cool.

Thing is when the "new" chat has caused issues in the past noones complained when it was took down without saying anything those times to see if that's what was causing problems

 

[bigNL]

So, ya can't cam for the whole room at once now, only 1on1?

 

[caffeinated]

While the new chat was great for broadcast camming group discussion, its slowness limited its use. It was also frustrating not knowing who was watching my cam.

The old chat is much better for 1:1 conversations, but having to open a separate window to cam is annoying, as his having to again open a popup window so you can see more than one came.

Neither are good,but the old chat is less annoying.

I know it doesn’t help to say this, but I really miss the Java chat!

 

[bigNL]

It was also frustrating not knowing who was watching my cam.

Yeah I'd like to know too how many are watching

 

[hironyt]

We are going to be bringing the complaints of the new chat to our hosting company to see if they can help with the performance issues.

I know just pulling the plug today upset some of you. We want to see what would happen and get feedback. It has worked and we appreciate everyone sharing their thoughts.

Pulling the plug to see what would happen?

Is LPSG run by toddlers with ADHD?

Forgive me my hyperbole, but that's an absolutely absurd way to manage a business/service/platform.

Your users and customers deserve much better.

It does however shed some light on other questionable actions taken by the admin team.

 

[jswitc]

I'm sorry you feel that way. I appreciate you paying and I understand your frustration.

This is not necessarily a permanent move. We want to see how this older chat does so we can compare and make an educated decision on how to move forward.

We invested heavily in the new chat and it didn't turn out the way we wanted. Our relationship with the developer fell apart and there isn't a way to improve what we have at this time. Based on numerous comments the new chat isn't good enough. It is also very expensive to run and not many users use it. Just to give you an example. 0.33% of all LPSG members use our Chat and it accounts for 10% of our hosting costs.

There are other considerations at play. Omegle chat was forced to shutdown last year. The landscape for adult sites and adult chat is changing rapidly with age verification and moderation being required. As you know the usage of the chat rooms is already really low. Adding age verification would probably turn it into a ghost town.

All that to say we will most likely be forced to make big changes to how our Video Chat works in 2025. We are exploring all options so we make the best decision. If anyone has any recommendations we are all ears.

Thanks for this information. Leading this would have probably pissed less people off.

Personally, I really liked the new chat features (ie a room where all camera's could be seen). It wasn't perfect but it was a fun environment I definitely took advantage of.

The current (old chat) isn't great but has less bugs. I won't be using it since there isn't a group cam feature.

 

[fskinn]

I am much less active on the new chat but I clearly won't use the old chat at all.
The new one is the closest to the old Flash version which made me love and stay on the site.
I find it very strange to have disabled this feature overnight, especially since a small community had formed in the main room.

 

[pursine]

Hi Everyone

I hope you are all doing well and are ready for the festive season.

We have made some changes to our chat offering. We've turned off what was called new chat and have decided to go with old chat platform for the time being.

We feel having everyone go to one chat area is better and we think this appears to be the chat platform our users prefer.

IMPORTANT NOTE This Change Might Be Temporary
We are testing this to see how it goes. If you have an opinion on this please share it below.

If you have any comments, questions, suggestions, or just want to say hi please post them below!

Love you all! Thanks!

Yeah the problem with the new chat is there is it actively discourages interaction as you don't know who is watching you. In addition, the fact it takes about 2-3 minutes for the video feeds to load makes it pretty much unusable. The old old chat was the best (the one based on flash), where you would actually interact with other cammers and viewers. I know flash is not a goer anymore, but the interface design worked best on that one.

 

[Gayshimo]

As an enthusiastic cammer (although not camming as often as I wish I could), I understand the difficulty of finding one that would be suitable for all.
Adding my personal reflections:

1. New chat (currently disabled) this is the one I started camming on. I love the sense of community, having 1 main chat room where you can connect with regulars and cam to the whole room. There are some frustrations, such as the cams being slow to load, the chat crashing every so often, people randomly appearing as 'loading user' or cams disappearing even though cammers are still active, and for me personally the private messages usually made my browser crash so it wasn't great for 1:1.
Main positive: 1 main chat room
Main negative: buggy/laggy/crashy

2. Old chat (current chat) I didn't start camming with this version so I find it hard to navigate / understand how it works. There are too many tabs, and separate chat rooms, and functionalities. I do like that it allows you to select your camera (even allows to link to your phone camera when in an Apple environment). I deplore the lack of main chat room, but it is largely more convenient for 1:1 camming.
Main positive: good for 1:1 (or at least better than new chat)
Main negative: not 1 main chat room

Hope this helps, and good luck finding a solution @LPSG Support

 

[DmitryPants]

The new chat was super bad and glitchy, but at least you were able to see who is on and not have windows covering half of your screen of people who are there just to watch. That chat made me wanna quit it all several times, but let's be honest, we all kept coming back for the show.

The old chat at least works fine, but people just keep creating new separate chats because they have no idea how it works. The fact that you have separate window for video and chat is even worse. You have to split your screen? Whoever created this UX should have been fired a long time ago, as you learn how to create and code a better one in your first year of uni. I understand it all costs money, but it just needs to be made well once and that's it.
None of them are good sadly, but at least we had our small community there. Not many will say much here, but I guess this is it for now
It's going down... I'm yelling timbeeeer.

 

[Draven Magnus Noir]

Personally I found the "new chat" to be incredibly unusable. The names for members didn't load or mismatched the photos sometimes, it seems impossible to find 1:1 chat notifications, and I don't generally want to be in a big open group chat, though sometimes that is fun. For me the level of access and chatting style in the "old chat" is better. But let's not kid ourselves, it's just better because it isn't broken. I'm happy to see this switch for now, looking forward to people coming to that again more often and meeting new people.

 

[henryfrn]

Here are my two cents regarding my experience using both chat environments.

The new chat never worked for me on my desktop computer (only on my smartphone). It never displayed the camera icon that indicated the people who were camming. It was buggy as heck and did not offer the option of using the back camera. The camera windows would load at a glacial pace and I dont think it offered the option of holding a multi-camera session (like zoom).

I preferred the old chat version over the new one since it did provide for not only a multi-camera session, but it also allowed to use either the front or back camera when utilizing a smartphone. Contrary to some users, i did like the use of the different chat rooms that were made available. Users would choose the chat environment most comfortable at that moment and thereby keeping the general vibe of the room constant. I did come across some straight users who seemed put off by conversing with gay users. This baffled me since I could not comprehend their dislike for chatting with someone with a different sexual orientation, yet they were there stroking their dicks with other "straight" guys. For this reason, I liked the use of the rooms because people knew what to expect before entering. I also appreciated the fact that private and public rooms could be created with the old chat and DM messages could be sent to a user quickly.

The struggle was REAL when sending a DM message to a user in the new chat and then subsequently returning to the main chat room using a smartphone.

Overall, both chat rooms need a lot of work. The ideal thing would be to get the exact same functionality that is offered in Zoom which allows a general chat area while also allowing one on one session or multi-room with face required, etc.

If I had to chose between one of the chat room platforms, i would chose the OLD (the one currently active).

 

[Alexanderrawr]

I preferred the communal cam version; if you could combine the old with the new UI it would be top notch.

 

[LLL90]

I voted that they both suck. But I want to emphasize that while they both sucked, I came back everyday anyhow… to chat with my husbands on here! the old chat’s only benefit for me is that I can cam on my phone. The new chat wouldn’t allow that but I did like the community better in that chat but I’d like to be able cam too with my phone…

 

[HungThickNLong]

Please bring back the OLD old chat (Not the one that is currently active).. The one where cams you were watching appeared in a sort of banner above the chat and you could watch multiple cams at a time with ease. That was the height of the chat feature and when I enjoyed it most

 

[SubbySlutForBigDick]

Please bring back the OLD old chat (Not the one that is currently active).. The one where cams you were watching appeared in a sort of banner above the chat and you could watch multiple cams at a time with ease. That was the height of the chat feature and when I enjoyed it most

That can't happen as that was flash based and flash was no longer supported years ago

 

[dirkdee-10in]

the old one was better. The fact that we can all interact at once in a chatroom was awesome. I enjoyed showing off to everyone all at once. Even if it was slow and laggy. Now it’s not as cool . You should try to get the room to be like the one Bateworld and MenChat use. I’m not sure how but they share a similar platform

 

[Popo Bent]

I have some familiarity with these things if you need another interlocutor.