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I had an interesting conversation with a fellow muso regarding Eva. He claimed she was a fraud? His theory was, like something out of 1984, she was the invention of the music industry, as opposed to government, and purely for the purposes of making money; nothing galvanises people into parting with it quit like death.
Haha... hadn't heard that one. And yeah, I also look askance at anyone who resurrects Elvis.
 

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I had an interesting conversation with a fellow muso regarding Eva. He claimed she was a fraud? His theory was, like something out of 1984, she was the invention of the music industry, as opposed to government, and purely for the purposes of making money; nothing galvanises people into parting with it quit like death. He argued that her fame never arose till after she was dead when suddenly there’s this great wealth of her material that industry has at it’s disposal, yet she never once had a hit song of her own, much less recorded one. Why would the industry want to take a chance on an unknown, as all she ever did was solo covers? The ploy was to build the legend first and then feed the music in along the way.

Up to this point I’d been intrigued, but then he said something on the lines of her death being a fake too and that she was probably right now sharing a villa somewhere with Elvis!
I think you need a more reliable music industry source. That is one very stupid theory.
 

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I think you need a more reliable music industry source. That is one very stupid theory.

Hi JA
Without wishing to antagonise, could I ask: is it such a stupid theory, or is it that you just don’t like the idea of Eva’s name being besmirched and simply say it’s a stupid theory? After all, you don’t provide any counter argument in support and I think the guy’s comment regarding the large amount of covers Eva recorded yet never had a single, single of her own released, is quite a valid one. I suppose you could speculate that the music industry wouldn’t involve it’s self in such a devious act. But then who would have thought the tobacco industry would have embarked upon putting bleach in its products to make them more addictive and harder still for people to quit; while knowing full well those people could quite easily die from smoke related illnesses? I personally am never surprised hearing the lengths some people, corporate or otherwise, will go to in order to make money and while the guy’s theory may sound far-fetched, if he’s capable of dreaming it up then so is someone in the music industry. Also, if it’s true (and I’m not saying it is, I was merely recounting of an episode in my life), I’m not so sure that it’s the most audacious stunt that’s ever been pulled. But nonetheless, regardless of anything else, I’m not really that bothered whether it is true or not; I would have researched the subject long ago if I had been, I just found the comments interesting. But suffice it to say, if you can put a different spin on things and give me your perspective, as a comparison, I would likewise be interested in that too.

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yes, because it's not like there were hospital records, a funeral or a death certificate. :rolleyes:

and it's not as if journalists have never heard this ridiculous rumour and investigated it.

it's not at all far fetched.
 

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yes, because it's not like there were hospital records, a funeral or a death certificate. :rolleyes:

and it's not as if journalists have never heard this ridiculous rumour and investigated it.

it's not at all far fetched.

Right so it’s not just a figment of my friends imagination; there actually was a rumour and it’s been dispelled; is that what you’re saying? (With such sardonic comment it’s difficult to understand and judge your sincerity.) Or are you saying you’ve checked the hospital records, have seen the death certificate or was at the funeral?

Like I say, I’ve never been that interested and found a need to investigate, but as someone took the trouble to start a topic regarding Eva, I thought it might be interesting to chuck what I heard into the pot; I had no idea I might be starting a war. However, I would ask that if it is, as you claim, such a ridiculous and far fetched rumour, then why did journalists waste their time investigating it?
 

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She had such a pure voice. It was like hearing music for the first time. I have several of her albums. I just happened upon this incredible talent totally by chance, as I was in Borders Books just listening to sample music and I chose to hear her version of "Fields of Gold". I was captivated.
It's really too sad she passed at such a young age.
 

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Yeah, Eva was created for us by the same group of rascally Jews who produced 9/11.

What a bunch of pranksters!

Fortunately there's smart folks running around that understand all this.
 

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I am the first one to be suspicous of the manipulative activities of big business. But there is one thing that differs from most of their conspiracies and this Eva theory. The difference is that Eva's alleged conspiracy didnt' work. Eva's posthumous work was not very popular in the USA except through word of mouth and the spillover on Amazon from her popularity in Europe.

Also, there is really no one who has actually recorded a cover of Eva's songs, since Eva recorded nothing original. Her style is much imitated by contestants on American Idol and Britain's Got Talent because she truly made these songs her own. You hear here stuff here and there, such as Michelle Kwan skating to one of her tunes, but I am sure most people did not recognize it. She was simply a really talented singer and singers appreciate what she did. She seems more like a "singer's singer" rather than anyone who is a household name. If you stopped 20 people on the street, probably one person might have heard of her.

So, my point is that the conspiracy theory is bogus, because whatever it is purported to be, it just didn't work.
 
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Sorry, my opening post is misleading, I think. I know the tragic story about Eva. I think she was an amazing singer. I was wondering how many people have heard of her.

Haha, I didn't actually seek out this site to ask this question. I am here quite frequently in Etc, Etc, and I figured with a forum title like that a question about a singer would not be outrageous. There are a lot of eclectic people here whose opinions I admire. I am curious others share my opinion that she could have been a great talent and very popular.

Interestingly, her posthumous worldwide popularity a few years ago came from a radio host on BBC playing her version of "Rainbow" on his show. Her fame spread from there around the world. We don't usually see singers become overnight successes 5 years after they have died.

I discovered Eva about two years ago when i happened upon a version of a Fat's Waller song Honey Suckle Rose from Eva's live at Blue's Alley recording. For a while i wondered why no one knew about such a fantastic vocalist. There is talk of a movie about her life.

She was amazing.
 

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Hi JA
Without wishing to antagonise, could I ask: is it such a stupid theory, or is it that you just don’t like the idea of Eva’s name being besmirched and simply say it’s a stupid theory? After all, you don’t provide any counter argument in support and I think the guy’s comment regarding the large amount of covers Eva recorded yet never had a single, single of her own released, is quite a valid one. ... I just found the comments interesting. But suffice it to say, if you can put a different spin on things and give me your perspective, as a comparison, I would likewise be interested in that too.

Thanks
Sea
Sea,
Actually, I shouldn't be so sarcastic, especially since you offered the theory in good faith and you are very articulate about it. I don't have any counter evidence except the fact that I never heard the theory, I never heard of the investigation of the theory, and Eva's posthumous recordings were really not that popular in the USA when compared to truly successful recording artists. Her wonderful singing and the unusual and tragic story have captured the hearts and minds of a few here and there, but it is a relatively small viral marketing phenomenon in the USA.

So in that the alleged conspiracy failed miserably, and in that hundreds of people in the Wash DC area knew her personally and in that people visited her on her death bed, and in that big crowds of people witnessed her last performance in public at her own fund raising benefit, it is hard to believe that so many people could be enlisted into such a conspiracy and be kept quiet.

I put this conspiracy theory into the same category as the 9/11 Pentagon plane theory, where it is proposed that it was a missile and not a plane that hit the pentagon. The problem with both of these is that there are too many average Joes involved in the events to suggest that they could all keep quiet.
 

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Sea,
Actually, I shouldn't be so sarcastic, especially since you offered the theory in good faith and you are very articulate about it. I don't have any counter evidence except the fact that I never heard the theory, I never heard of the investigation of the theory, and Eva's posthumous recordings were really not that popular in the USA when compared to truly successful recording artists. Her wonderful singing and the unusual and tragic story have captured the hearts and minds of a few here and there, but it is a relatively small viral marketing phenomenon in the USA.

So in that the alleged conspiracy failed miserably, and in that hundreds of people in the Wash DC area knew her personally and in that people visited her on her death bed, and in that big crowds of people witnessed her last performance in public at her own fund raising benefit, it is hard to believe that so many people could be enlisted into such a conspiracy and be kept quiet.

I put this conspiracy theory into the same category as the 9/11 Pentagon plane theory, where it is proposed that it was a missile and not a plane that hit the pentagon. The problem with both of these is that there are too many average Joes involved in the events to suggest that they could all keep quiet.

HI JA,
Thanks for the response. I think it wasn’t till after her demise that Eve also became popular here in the UK. We have a couple of her CD (Songbird and Time after time) among our personal collection, but rarely, if ever, are they plaid. Having said that, I agree, she has a very fine singing voice and in fact I cover one of her covers occasionally in my performance; ‘At last.’ By and large though, I find her a little melancholy; I’m more your up beat rock and roll or R n B person. I prefer to see head nodding and feet tapping rather than people gently swaying. However, I don’t think it’s that particularly, that accounts for my lack of knowledge regarding Eva’s history; I know she died at a young age from illness, but that’s as much as a lot of people here know. We obviously got her later than you did and I don’t think she received the same notoriety, especially with the press. Likewise, I hadn’t heard of the 9/11 Pentagon theory till reading it in your recent missive. I think with me, it’s a case of too many fingers on the keyboard and not enough on the pulse!:wink:

Take care
Sea