Gay Breeding

[Betty_Cocker]

This is an honest (probably stupid) question but I am sincerely curious.

What does it mean when men talk about wanted to be "bred" ?

I was under the opinion that "breeding" meant impregnating...and, well, since guys can't get pregnant, nor can girls anally for that matter, what does it mean?

I've ready many posts by men who want other guys to breed them, so of course my curiosity got the best of me. :tongue:

Thanks!

 

[KennF]

Breeding refers to getting fucked and having the guy cum inside you.

 

[Betty_Cocker]

I kinda thought that... but wasn't sure. Just slang...

 

[AlexDB9]

Most of these guys talking about getting "bred" want a whole party of DNA back there.

 

[ballaratboy]

Funny enough love these type of videos but never would try in real life.
Cum in my mouth is another matter, strange I guess

 

[Betty_Cocker]

Funny enough love these type of videos but never would try in real life.
Cum in my mouth is another matter, strange I guess

I see your point and have wondered myself. I don't mind swallowing but gotta have a condom to get downstairs...

I thought this was typical... until I read about a lady that made her fella friends wear condoms for her to suck them. (I tried and it isn't even close to being fun.)


So is the breeding more... talk/fantasy and porn?

the "whole party" thing... I can see that.

 

[KennF]

So is the breeding more... talk/fantasy and porn?

the "whole party" thing... I can see that.

Lots of reasons behind it (no pun intended).

It's not all talk and fantasy, but porn turns it into such.

When HIV was first identified, it was common to have a breeding party to contract HIV. They hated the idea that they couldn't have sex with someone and hated living in fear of contracting the disease. So, they figured they'd rather live shorter lives and be free of the fear.

Although porn makes it into a fantasy, there is an element of risk taking. With the advent of PREP, that is all changing.

And there is always a group that are allergic to latex.

-Kenn

*shrug*

 

[concupisys]

i find gay sexual terminology to be so stupid sometimes.... way too feminized, derogatory, self-depricating, oxy-moronic, and well.... simply not reflective of 2 MEN having sex whatsoever.... like really: where does this stuff originate and why on earth do we seemingly accept it as part of our culture? i find that most of it is actually a lot of the reason why homophobia exists: because WE make our SELVES sound so freakin' SCARY to the rest of the world.... language plays such a huge part in how we perceive things, and the sexual lingo that gay men use sometimes makes us sound like nothing more than a bunch of sluts, rapists, pedophiles and sissies....

how does one take pride in that sort of thing?

 

[concupisys]

Lots of reasons behind it (no pun intended).

It's not all talk and fantasy, but porn turns it into such.

When HIV was first identified, it was common to have a breeding party to contract HIV. They hated the idea that they couldn't have sex with someone and hated living in fear of contracting the disease. So, they figured they'd rather live shorter lives and be free of the fear.

Although porn makes it into a fantasy, there is an element of risk taking. With the advent of PREP, that is all changing.

And there is always a group that are allergic to latex.

-Kenn

*shrug*

this statement is quite fascinating, and probably one of the most blatant examples of just how fucked up our culture is.... we claim to have pride, and we claim to not want to live our lives in fear.... but how does destroying eachother constitute courage?

answer: IT DOESN'T...

rather than use the adversity that we face as a means to change our behaviour and be accepted as red blooded human beings, we take it and use it as a means to infect ourselves with both literal and figurative diseases, to act irresponsibly, and make it so that who we are and what we do is indecent and must be put under some kind of quarantine...

in canada, where our health care is essentially free, the culture of 'breeding' has morphed out of a means to shorten lives with a horrible death and in to a means of getting free drugs and living on disability for the rest of what are now 'healthy' lives.... i actually know of people with HIV who charge money to 'bug chasers' to 'breed' them so that they can live out their days without having to lift a finger at the expense of responsible working taxpayers.... they get a fat cheque every month, all the painkillers and pot that they want, and then march in parades with 'pride' every year for what they've done.... it's diabolical IMHO....

i rue the day when this aspect of our culture surfaces to the mainstream and we can eradicate these people once and for all....

 

[wappingite]

I believe 'bug chasing' and 'gift giving' exists, but it seems to have been sensationalised. I would be interested in knowing if there are any actual studies with statistical proof of this or if it's relying simply on anecdotal evidence.

Now with PrEP (or Truvada), it's morphed again though. I'm seeing profiles with supposedly negative 'cumdump' bottoms on PrEP looking to be 'bred' or 'seeded' by as many tops as possible. This combined with much better management of HIV has also resulted in more POZ undetectables, so there are newer terminologies in the whole 'breeding' scene. Now Hep C is a status to talk about as well if negotiating sex.

There seems to be a psychological aspect of wanting to be 'bred' though as it possibly relates to desires for intimacy, however fleeting, and carrying someone's DNA around. I'm not so sure it's a feminisation or 'lack of self esteem' though as much as it's a desire to either bond with someone or possibly be submissive to them on another level than just purely sexual.

I don't judge anyone for this on any level. It's a personal choice. I've only ever fucked with condoms, but I totally 'get' why people chose not to.

 

[KennF]

this statement is quite fascinating, and probably one of the most blatant examples of just how fucked up our culture is.... we claim to have pride, and we claim to not want to live our lives in fear.... but how does destroying eachother constitute courage?

answer: IT DOESN'T...

rather than use the adversity that we face as a means to change our behaviour and be accepted as red blooded human beings, we take it and use it as a means to infect ourselves with both literal and figurative diseases, to act irresponsibly, and make it so that who we are and what we do is indecent and must be put under some kind of quarantine...

in canada, where our health care is essentially free, the culture of 'breeding' has morphed out of a means to shorten lives with a horrible death and in to a means of getting free drugs and living on disability for the rest of what are now 'healthy' lives.... i actually know of people with HIV who charge money to 'bug chasers' to 'breed' them so that they can live out their days without having to lift a finger at the expense of responsible working taxpayers.... they get a fat cheque every month, all the painkillers and pot that they want, and then march in parades with 'pride' every year for what they've done.... it's diabolical IMHO....

i rue the day when this aspect of our culture surfaces to the mainstream and we can eradicate these people once and for all....

Maybe that's true.

I was just describing the term and some of the reasons behind it.

Leaving someone in ignorance of the term or information doesn't aid our culture either.

Don't shoot the messenger.

 

[KennF]

I believe 'bug chasing' and 'gift giving' exists, but it seems to have been sensationalised. I would be interested in knowing if there are any actual studies with statistical proof of this or if it's relying simply on anecdotal evidence.

Now with PrEP (or Truvada), it's morphed again though. I'm seeing profiles with supposedly negative 'cumdump' bottoms on PrEP looking to be 'bred' or 'seeded' by as many tops as possible. This combined with much better management of HIV has also resulted in more POZ undetectables, so there are newer terminologies in the whole 'breeding' scene. Now Hep C is a status to talk about as well if negotiating sex.

There seems to be a psychological aspect of wanting to be 'bred' though as it possibly relates to desires for intimacy, however fleeting, and carrying someone's DNA around. I'm not so sure it's a feminisation or 'lack of self esteem' though as much as it's a desire to either bond with someone or possibly be submissive to them on another level than just purely sexual.

I don't judge anyone for this on any level. It's a personal choice. I've only ever fucked with condoms, but I totally 'get' why people chose not to.

I've not met someone who thinks about walking around with DNA inside them, but I'm sure that is true, too. Another angle to consider.

I was speaking from firsthand experiences of some of the friends I've had over the years and some of the people I've met.

I've even been propositioned to be given a "gift" in order to free myself of the stress of worrying about it. I said, "Nah, I've got enough on my plate already. Thanks though...wanna fuck with a condom?"

 

[Betty_Cocker]

Maybe that's true.

I was just describing the term and some of the reasons behind it.

Leaving someone in ignorance of the term or information doesn't aid our culture either.

Don't shoot the messenger.

I'm not judging anyone either... just trying to understand what certain things mean. I still think of impregnation when I hear the term "breeding". But I do understand now what it means in different cultures.

I am learning a lot (tons) about behavior and lifestyles through this ongoing conversation.

I can see how concupisys feels and he's made some very valid, straight talking points. The way I see it... there are whores in all cultures. (Just a term here, not trying to be negative, but again, his point is made with terminology and it's negative effect.)

I don't think they are the majority in any culture. Would hope so anyway.

 

[concupisys]

Betty and Kenn:

i don't 'blame' one specific person (including the messengers) for the terms mentioned or their related activities.... i'm pretty sure that men have been getting hot cream injections for centuries longer than any of the slang that we use.... i was pointing out the fact that somehow in the course of our existence, the actions and their related terms have a very twisted sociology about them, and it's had a very negative impact on us based on the context in which they're used.....

what's irksome (IMHO) is the fact that we go along with it all and then act like victims when the world outside us takes any kind of offense to it or uses it as a means to hate/discriminate against us.... up until recent years, anyone who is not gay or doesn't have gay sex has seen what we do as ugly, disgusting, and even as far as to call masochistic.... how we refer to our brand of sex to the world is not in any way beautiful or romantic.... until homosexuality and gay sex started to make its way in to mass media and prime time, there has been nothing out there that describes what we do as 'normal' in any way.... it still makes a lot of people really uncomfortable to even see us kiss, let alone do anything else.... and even then, we still have a LONG way to go in removing the stigmas that WE created for ourselves.... and i'm sorry to say it, but i don't blame many moden-day homobhobes for their perceptions.... those perceptions are going to take a lot of time to correct, and may not even happen in our lifetime.... ergo: in conversations like these, it's still very easy to step on people's toes, hit fresh nerves, and put salt on open wounds....

what's important is that we simply keep the conversation going, and do so in such a way that perceptions (ours and the rest of the world's) are changed for the better.... i inject my crazy opinions in to them because there is still a lot of fear to bring up and discuss the things that i do..... i'm not afraid, and nobody else should be either as long as they keep it real and don't make undue hits below the belt.... i know that people are going to get offended or take it personally, and at this point it's only to be expected.... it's going to take decades if not centuries for us to achieve true societal acceptance in the global playing field.... but i'll be damned if i'm going to sit back and let us self-destruct during the conversation....

 

[KennF]

I'm not judging anyone either... just trying to understand what certain things mean. I still think of impregnation when I hear the term "breeding". But I do understand now what it means in different cultures.

I am learning a lot (tons) about behavior and lifestyles through this ongoing conversation.

I can see how concupisys feels and he's made some very valid, straight talking points. The way I see it... there are whores in all cultures. (Just a term here, not trying to be negative, but again, his point is made with terminology and it's negative effect.)

I don't think they are the majority in any culture. Would hope so anyway.

I agree, concupisys has some valid points. I'm not sure if I'd make the same conclusions, but the issue are very valid.

I'm happy to provide information. The more people learn and uderstand how normal and how much of a range exists in the gay community, the more accceptance grows.

When all someone sees is one segment, whether it is the leather scene, the flaming sissies, the in-your-face flirts, or whatever, then they think there is only one type of gay person. So that's when we need to show that there are extremes on every side of every segment of the populations and more moderates in our segment.

That's when we will be able to inject that image into modern pop culture and when the euphamisms will die out.

At least that's my opinion.

-Kenn

 

[keenobserver]

The level of discussion and thoughtfulness that goes into many of the threads and posts I see here is impressive. Kudos to everyone who makes an honest effort. We are all better for it.

 

[WillyLong]

Mpreg

 

[HOU_HEADHUNTER]

More than likely just a figure of speech that carried over from the 70s during the sexual revolution. It is understood that the term breed is for the purpose of impregnating but I think it's just a play on the word that is not more synonymous with gay culture as breeding became a popular fetish for a segment of gay men. I highly doubt that a woman would react kindly to someone using the term "breeding" for what goes on between a male and a female. Women are easily turned off by some terminology and they would probably prefer words like "impregnate" or "mate" where as men tend to be more open to terms like "breed", "inseminate," or "load." Everything is starting to be blurred however because I've heard men use the term "impregnate" in a moment of lustful sex.

 

[find83]

this statement is quite fascinating, and probably one of the most blatant examples of just how fucked up our culture is.... we claim to have pride, and we claim to not want to live our lives in fear.... but how does destroying eachother constitute courage?

answer: IT DOESN'T...

rather than use the adversity that we face as a means to change our behaviour and be accepted as red blooded human beings, we take it and use it as a means to infect ourselves with both literal and figurative diseases, to act irresponsibly, and make it so that who we are and what we do is indecent and must be put under some kind of quarantine...

in canada, where our health care is essentially free, the culture of 'breeding' has morphed out of a means to shorten lives with a horrible death and in to a means of getting free drugs and living on disability for the rest of what are now 'healthy' lives.... i actually know of people with HIV who charge money to 'bug chasers' to 'breed' them so that they can live out their days without having to lift a finger at the expense of responsible working taxpayers.... they get a fat cheque every month, all the painkillers and pot that they want, and then march in parades with 'pride' every year for what they've done.... it's diabolical IMHO....

i rue the day when this aspect of our culture surfaces to the mainstream and we can eradicate these people once and for all....

The term Breeding is not only used in Bug chasing and pozzing. Yes it's used there but it's also just normally used for taking cum. So it's not necessarily a "dark" term. It's no different when guys call their cum "babies"

 

[Brodie888]

There is a lot more pressure on bottoms to be on prep in order to compete for sexual partners these days. It's a competitive market. I am glad to be out of that game.