Gay in the armed services

1 eskader.
Daar onder die telephone hokkies....
En die kanaries in die bungalows langs die main gate.
 
En o s het fokol tv gehad nie!

Sounds hectic... At least in De Aar I had TV, worked in the NCO's bar after hours, drove the PF bus, went on trips to Bloemfontein because I had a code 10 license, went horse riding and as a pastime... had very interesting one on one time with the other troepe ;)
 
Sounds hectic... At least in De Aar I had TV, worked in the NCO's bar after hours, drove the PF bus, went on trips to Bloemfontein because I had a code 10 license, went horse riding and as a pastime... had very interesting one on one time with the other troepe ;)
Ja as a dog handler we caused lots of kak
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I'll share a few posts with different perspectives.

Four gay men reveal what it is like to serve in the US military
'I believed if I joined this hypermasculine institution, I would come out straight in the end.'
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Gay men open up on serving in the US military
5 February 2016
by Joe Morgan


‘It was immature and naive of me to believe if I joined this hypermasculine institution, I would come out straight in the end.’

This is what one gay guy, who served in the US military, believed what would happen when he joined the military.

Four men talked with Buzzfeed about their experience being gay and serving.

Subjects range from separating your ‘gay’ life and your ‘straight’ life, living under Don’t Ask Don’t Tell and how they felt when it was repealed.

The men range in age, backgrounds, and years enlisted. But one thing is clear: times have changed for LGBTI US soldiers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swDD_91ys8s
 
A FEW GOOD MEN
Horny Soldiers Stationed In Afghanistan Using Craigslist For Gay Hookups On Base


Soldiers have been getting it on with each other since the days of Alexander the Great, but with the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, one would assume U.S. service members can service each other as much as they want, right?

Well, turns out, under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, soldiers are forbidden from having sex with anyone other than their spouse while deployed to a combat zone. But that’s not stopping some soldiers from seeking their jollies through that time-honored method of anonymous hooking-up: Craigslist.

A hard-hitting exposé in the
Daily Mail — originally reported by the Marine Corps Times — reveals that soldiers are posting “explicit photos” of their genitals and even “sex acts” on the Iraq Craigslist page — “a holdover from a time when hundreds of thousands of Americans were stationed throughout Iraq” — under the casual encounters section. [Ed. note: use responsibly, children]

“Dozens” of posts go up daily featuring soldiers seeking “workout buddies”, “NSA fun” or some good ole-fashioned “sucking and balls-deep fucking.” One poster, noting the site’s appearance on the Daily Mail, hoped that the story “doesn’t fuck it up or invite creeps.” Too late! — we’ve already invaded.

While rule breakers won’t be kicked out of the service, they still face strict penalties. One Marine lance corporal tells the Daily Mail of being caught and arrested trying to hookup with a male undercover Naval Criminal Investigation Service officer. He was demoted down to private first class, docked $1600 in pay, received 45 extra days of duty and 45 days of restriction.

What is this,
Baton Rouge? Officers entrapping sexed-up service members? Isn’t there a war or something going on? And considering the danger these brave and incredibly horny men face each day, what’s wrong with getting an innocent beej from a fellow soldier? Hell, it beats getting a prostitute and subsequently, chlamydia.

“When detached from home, without the ability to openly exercise relationships in a combat environment and with a fatalistic attitude, military members would be inclined to embrace risk-taking,” explained retired Army psychiatrist, Col. Dr. Elspeth Cameron Ritchie. “These young men have high testosterone and, with the inability to quietly have a relationship, it is not surprising that they are willing to put themselves into that situation.”

Mmm, all those mens and all that testosterone and all that camo just asking and telling one another, waiting for a release — it’s enough to make a gurl enlist in the armed forces. Who do we have to see about getting a thoroughly invasive medical exam? We’re talking balls deep.
 
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http://boyfactor.com/one-one-jake-houser-andrew-christians-newest-trophy-boy/

He's really cool. & very shy.

One-On-One with Jake Houser, Andrew Christian’s Newest Trophy Boy
by R.J. Aguiar • December 4, 2013 • Gossip, WatchComments (16,562) • 190779

Take a look at Jake Houser’s banging bod, and it’s easy to see why he emerged as an early fan favorite in Andrew Christian’s 2013 Model Contest. There’s a difference between being in shape to look good and being actually strong, and Jake clearly belongs in that second group. But looks can only get you so far, and with dozens of finalists fighting their way through multiple video rounds, contestants were going to have to do more than just be attractive to stand out. That was when Jake’s humor started to shine through. While others were seducing the camera during the “Lip Sync For Your Life” round, Jake was donning nipple tassels and singing “Fuck the Pain Away” by Peaches. Seriously. Watch it for yourself…


As if that wasn’t awesome enough, Jake is also a former Marine, which scores him a bunch of extra points in the hot fantasy role play and overall coolness categories. It was that magical combination of looks and down-to-earth charm that would eventually win the hearts of both fans and Andrew Christian himself, who decided to crown him the winner and fly him to LA for several days of almost nonstop photo and video shoots. Thankfully, I managed to find a tiny gap in his jam-packed schedule. As it turns out, after sitting down with him, there’s so much more to like about him. There’s so much more to this guy than meets the eye, and he absolutely refuses to take himself too seriously.

Jake served in the Marines during the last months of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”, which meant that he had to spend his entire time in the military looking over his shoulder. ” I was in a long-distance relationship at the time…and it was weird because I couldn’t tell anyone about it. One of my friends, my roommate, knew that I was gay, and he would always stick up for me and make up stories like, ‘yeah, Howser was with some chick last night.’ I always had the feeling that people knew, though. It was extremely homophobic, too. My leaders and stuff would talk really mean shit about gays, and I always felt out of place.” I can only imagine that military service is already difficult enough. Add to that the added pressure of staying closeted in such close proximity to a bunch of homophobes, and it certainly makes sense that Jake would have to use humor to cope. “I was scared. I heard this one story about a dude that they found out was gay and they took him down to the beach and burned him alive.” Yeah, heavy stuff. Jake had already grown up in a homophobic household, “hardcore Mormon” as he described it, so staying closeted was already second nature. But after his time in the Marines was up, he decided that enough was enough. “I said, ‘you know what? I’m not gonna hide this shit anymore. I’m done pretending to be something that I’m not.’”

Luckily, his coming out process proved relatively painless. “I didn’t even strictly come out and say ‘hey, guys, I’m gay!’ I just updated my Facebook status and said that I had a boyfriend and started posting photos of me kissing him. People were a little shocked for a while, but I was like ‘get over it, what are you going to do?’” As it turns out, Jake’s military friends were extremely supportive of him when he finally did come out. It took certain members of his family a few years to come around, but eventually, some did. “My mom is really supportive of everything I do now. She knows I go-go dance and all that. She saw my contest videos for Andrew Christian and liked them, so, yeah, that says a lot. She’s come a long way.”

Now that Jake’s military days are behind him, he’s now in school for IT because “I’m a huge computer geek. I love nerdy things in general.” You might find that surprising, given his body and all, but don’t be fooled. “A lot of the guys who are really into working out are actually pretty big nerds, because it actually takes a lot of research to figure out diet and workout routines and all of that stuff.
 
Thank you! And I understand perfectly. Thanks for continuing to serve!

Right back at you. I was just posting some snazzy pin ups of military guys in various form of undress. I have to laugh when I think about my civilian friends who have seen my private photos of my joes fucking off like this.
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And or the guys are lying there, on their racks, stalk ass naked with some of the biggest meat I've ever seen in my life.

Yeah, it's the respect that I really cherish the most. Just knowing they know that I'm not ogling them, (Well, not to their faces).

And if they trace any pics back to this site by happenstance, it's not about my sexuality, moreover the bond I have with them. You can't lose that.

I love the evolvement of the military culture to where I can bring gay friends over, flaming & all, to the base when I'm there.

I love how these exhibitionists fucks know what they're doing, giving my friends a peek show, and I think I have to give them CPR from the shock.

Again, it's all about the rapport with the guys that makes the difference.
 
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Those are very wise words. I served under Clinton and Bush, meaning the whole time I was in, I was under the DADT policy, which was a HUGE F'N MISTAKE (God help me if I ever run into Bill C.).

It didn't change the number of gays in the military, it just brought something to light that was better left alone; and because of that, ruined the lives of many fine service members. Gays have always been there, and it was a well kept secret that everyone likely knew, but it just didn't need to be discussed. It was quietly accepted.... the way it should have been.

I was very lucky... although I was unexpectedly outed, my entire COC was fully supportive and my battery commander himself promised to "F anyone up who f'd with me"...... but I told him since I lived off post I could shoot them myself. I digress. ..... The vast majority of guys I served with became better friends once they knew, and most of them are still very close friends to this day.

It's all about the camaraderie and the respect you give them. Most of them, even knowing I was gay, still didn't hesitate to shower with at the same time as me or change clothes in my presence, because while I may have "glanced" nonchalantly, I never was distasteful or sh*tty about it. After some of them found out, the common thing for them to tell their GF's and wives was "Hey, if you ever kick me out, I'll just go over to Jones' house".

I miss my time in and the friends I made, but I'm damn glad I'm out.
 
The niece of a close friend has served two tours of Afghanistan. She is one of the sweetest individuals you ever want to meet. She's also a lesbian with a partner. She's in the reserves now, but every troop in her unit knows her situation and respects it, even her CO.

She's a very happy soldier who also teaches elementary school! She is filled with wonderment at everything life gives her. It's really hard not to love her and want to be around her.

One thing is for certain, she neither cloaks her lifestyle nor flaunts it. It is what it is, take it or leave it, and that is the best way to be.
 
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Those are very wise words. I served under Clinton and Bush, meaning the whole time I was in, I was under the DADT policy, which was a HUGE F'N MISTAKE (God help me if I ever run into Bill C.).

It didn't change the number of gays in the military, it just brought something to light that was better left alone; and because of that, ruined the lives of many fine service members. Gays have always been there, and it was a well kept secret that everyone likely knew, but it just didn't need to be discussed. It was quietly accepted.... the way it should have been.

I was very lucky... although I was unexpectedly outed, my entire COC was fully supportive and my battery commander himself promised to "F anyone up who f'd with me"...... but I told him since I lived off post I could shoot them myself. I digress. ..... The vast majority of guys I served with became better friends once they knew, and most of them are still very close friends to this day.

It's all about the camaraderie and the respect you give them. Most of them, even knowing I was gay, still didn't hesitate to shower with at the same time as me or change clothes in my presence, because while I may have "glanced" nonchalantly, I never was distasteful or sh*tty about it. After some of them found out, the common thing for them to tell their GF's and wives was "Hey, if you ever kick me out, I'll just go over to Jones' house".

I miss my time in and the friends I made, but I'm damn glad I'm out.
I see he hasn't posted in a while, but almost 10 years later I would like to know others' perspectives and I'm sure so much has changed with all the apps (and the current administration).
Just curious about the fluctuations in military culture...
 
I was in the army for a little over a decade started as an E3 and eventually went to OCS and became an officer.

There were openly gay soldiers at every company and battalion I was assigned to. The overall attitude and climate varied from unit to unit, but generally, if you were good at your job and not a shitbag, nobody really cared.

I always made sure that any soldier under my command was treated respectfully. But as you can expect, certain jobs in the military are going to attract certain types of people. I served for about a year as a PL in a transpo company. We operated two motor pools, so lots of mechanics and generally rougher folks. The language, banter, and jocularity were vastly different that what would be acceptable in a office-based S6/IT environment. I imagine similar difference exist between support positions and the combat arms MOS's.

Also keep in mind that most soldiers are young and I think most of them also haven't lived many places or worked many jobs, so they haven't really experienced different people, so a lot of the hard edges haven't been smoothed out and the preconceived notions and prejudices might still be there.

But even still, I never witnessed any rampant hostility or overt hatred at any of the units I was assigned to.
 
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