gwinea2000:
Originally posted by madame_zora@Nov 10 2004, 04:18 PM
Okay, so we built a pipeline in Afghanistan already (fact), does that really mean we want oil to come out of it? Yes, this is sarcasm, I can't believe people can't look at true FACTS and formulate more realistic conclusions.
I do believe with all my heart that many, many people who voted Republican did so in reaction to fear tactics and repetitive sound bytes and I resent that. I don't resent a careful, studied opinionated person voting their conscience, but I know (at least in my heart) that many people don't put very much effort into making their selection.
It has been my personal experience that in talking with many voters from both sides, most knew very little about the issues and were voting for the guy they liked more! I find that disgusting coming from either side.
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Well, if you get your "facts" from crap like Farenheit 9/11.....
In FACT, there is no functioning pipeline currently running through Afghanistan. Work was started on one (led by UNOCAL), but it never saw completion. Note that this project began AND ENDED well before Dubya was on the national scene. Besides, if it actually brought some jobs and business to the barren country that is Afghanistan, would it be so horrible? (August of 1998.)
FYI:
"Afghanistan as an Energy Transit Route:
Due to its location between the oil and natural gas reserves of the Caspian Basin and the Indian Ocean, Afghanistan has long been mentioned as a potential pipeline route, though in the near term, several obstacles will likely prevent Afghanistan from becoming an energy transit corridor. During the mid-1990s, Unocal had pursued a possible natural gas pipeline from Turkmenistan's Dauletabad-Donmez gas basin via Afghanistan to Pakistan, but pulled out after the U.S. missile strikes against Afghanistan in August 1998. The Afghan government under President Karzai has tried to revive the Trans-Afghan Pipeline (TAP) plan, with periodic talks held between the governments of Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Turkmenistan on the issue, but little progress appears to have been made as of early June 2004 (despite the signature on December 9, 2003, of a protocol on the pipeline by the governments of Afghanistan, Pakistan and Turkmenistan). President Karzai has stated his belief that the project could generate $100-$300 million per year in transit fees for Afghanistan, while creating thousands of jobs in the country.
Given the obstacles to development of a natural gas pipeline across Afghanistan, it seems unlikely that such an idea will make any progress in the near future, and no major Western companies have expressed interest in reviving the project. The security situation in Afghanistan remains an obvious problem, while tensions between India and Pakistan make it unlikely that such a pipeline could be extended into India and its large (and growing) gas market. Financial problems in the utility sector in India, which would be the major consumer of the natural gas, also could pose a problem for construction of the TAP line. Finally, the pipeline's $2.5-$3.5 billion estimated cost poses a significant obstacle to its construction."
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/afghan.html
As for "voting for the guy you like more" -- the EXTREME majority (over 70%) of Kerry's votes were from people whose reasoning was "I don't like Bush."
**Please note that I voted for NEITHER major candidate, and I'm not a huge Bush supporter either.
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