Intolerance

[davidjh7]

Greetings, all
This site has become increasingly intolerant of gay people. I have fallen victim to responding to many of the bashing threads, trying logic, passion, anger, cajoling, humor, whatever works. This used to be a site tolerant of people. Those who bash get righteously indignant when they are called on it, saying they object to this being treated as a gay site, and they should feel free to bash all they want. I thought that inflammatory bashing posts, against any group represented here, was a violation of terms, but I guess that bashing behavior is an exception. Thus, as much as I enjoy this site, and the many thoughtful interesting, funny, and wonderful people who have enriched my life, I find I can no longer participate in a site which encourages hatred against me. I am what I am. I fought being who I am for the first 2/3 of my life, so I know my sexuality is not a choice, or I would have been a married straight man with a family by now. You can think, believe, or feel what you want. I will no longer try and convince you of anything. I will keep my mouth shut. I will go away. If the few here who know me, or give half a passing thought to me, would be so kind as to PM me when the hatred has subsided, if it ever does, so that I may once again participate, I would be grateful. Until then, I wish ALL of you health, happiness, joy, and success and fulfillment in your work, your play, your lives. May you have family, and friends, and love, and joy all the days of your lives. I include those who have shown hate towards me, since you don;t really know me, and I don't really know you, I can not know where your hate comes from or why. Peace to you all.

 

[datdude]

Its a mixed site of all poeple. I like the diffrences. I dont understand whats wrong with some people? Its a big dick support site for those with big dicks and those who like them. Gay guys have big dicks and gay guys I assume like big dicks just like women. I expected gay guys to be on here. Is Not a gay site at all

 

[Industrialsize]

I agree, what keeps me coming back to LPSG is it's not a gay site......i've met many nice straight guys and women in chat who I correspond with regularly......I think we ALL have a lot to learn from each other......I even enjoy the straight vid clips that DJG is fond of posting.......I consider them part of my education..lol......I think the number of thoughtful, funny, entertaining posts far outnumbers the amount of homphobic posts.....I love when there is a homophobic rant posted, that it;s often the straight guys who are most offended and come to my defense........LPSG? It's like nowhere else!....now if people would only give me props so my rep power number can go up!

 

[B_Think_Kink]

I love you boys! Please do not give up on this site. We have been under attack but things will get better. Luv you all.

 

[DGirl]

Industrialsize When am I getting MY chance to CHAT with you in the Chat room?
lol
Thier are GAY, BI, STRAIGHT and even men / women that are going through Sex changes on this board. I have NO problem with any of you. That is why I desided to stay..." Well, thanks to a load of you all like SP and C babe and many more others..." I like this place. No one should JUDGE anyone.." We all have our faults..."

 

[jeunessedoree]

As immature as this might sound, you're being a big PUSSY.

1) The homophobia and gay bashing isn't nearly as prevalent as you make it out to be. And even when it does happen, it seems like the majority of this community gathers to correct these very few individuals.

2) If you only draw your attention to the threads that do advocate bigotry, then of course it's going to seem like a "homophobic" website.

3) Contrary to your thinking, this is one of the most open-minded and accepting of gays places you could be (save for san francisco and gay bars). Do you really think that if you go anywhere else, there's going to be less of it. I highly doubt it. One of the things so great about LPSG is the diversity; the exposure to others ideas, lifestyles, and opinions is what makes tolerance. (Unless of course it's negative exposure.) You can't answer a problem by deferring a solution.

 

[B_Think_Kink]

As immature as this might sound, you're being a big PUSSY.

1) The homophobia and gay bashing isn't nearly as prevalent as you make it out to be. And even when it does happen, it seems like the majority of this community gathers to correct these very few individuals.

2) If you only draw your attention to the threads that do advocate bigotry, then of course it's going to seem like a "homophobic" website.

3) Contrary to your thinking, this is one of the most open-minded and accepting of gays places you could be (save for san francisco and gay bars). Do you really think that if you go anywhere else, there's going to be less of it. I highly doubt it. One of the things so great about LPSG is the diversity; the exposure to others ideas, lifestyles, and opinions is what makes tolerance. (Unless of course it's negative exposure.) You can't answer a problem by deferring a solution.

You obviously don't spend enough time reading anything here.... would you like to try again?

 

[B_NineInchCock_160IQ]

There are a few new intolerant trolls here lately, that's not really anything new. We've always had those. The site itself isn't any less tolerant than it ever was.

 

[2322]

There are a few new intolerant trolls here lately, that's not really anything new. We've always had those. The site itself isn't any less tolerant than it ever was.

I agree. The site is as tolerant as it ever was, there are just a few very vocal trolls who are have got some serious issues they want to take out on us. It's a great way to learn how to deal with intolerance.

Consider the trolls targets for witticism skeet.

 

[B_Swimming Lad]

My advice is dont let it bother u. I havn't noticed any gay bashing goin on?
Just ignore the trolls and get on with it mate! The people of LPSG are hugely accepting (I know:redface

 

[earllogjam]

David,

If you are going to let a few pricks on this site ruin your life here you are not the guy I thought you were. You leave a big hole here when you are gone and I would rather you stay and just avoid the pricks. The ignore button works great. I have followed your postings since I got here and they have always been thoughtful, and helpful.

Anyways, I think some head bashing is in order here. Why don't you call out the trolls on this thread and we can respond in like kind. I am sure if you are having a problem with them many members have had the same experience. I know these folks are a pain in the ass as I have encountered one in the Folsom St. Fair thread but the only way to resolve this is if this is brought to light so others know who these posters are and either put them on ignore and not feed them or call them on their bullshit en mass.

 

[cocktaste]

I think LPSG is one of the biggest tolerant sites around. However, there are the same trolls, spouting the same garbage, over and over again. I think we should make a list of their names and just laugh at them when they enter a thread mouthing off their nonsense. lol.

 

[davidjh7]

Thank you all for responding, and I would just like to clarify a couple of points, if may.

First, this is still one of the most diverse, interesting, accepting and impressive sites on the net. I would never argue that point--in fact, I would defend that statement vehemently.

Second, yes, trolls, and intolerant people, and bigots, and fools will always come and go. That comes with diversity, and one of the prices you pay for diversity. I still say diversity is a good thing, even at the price you pay for it.

My primary reason for temporarily going quiet is that I find myself reacting badly to what I perceive as an increasing level of very unpleasant, unsubstantiated attacks on homosexuality. These have become broad sweeping, and reflective of some of the worst intolerant attitudes I have witnessed in my life. I have been personally subjected to enough intolerance, bigotry, and violence, even from my own family, that these levels and types of posts cause me to react at a visceral level, and my intolerance increases as a result.

I do not intend this to be the case, but I find myself slipping into this pattern. I have no personal dislike for anybody here--everybody is entitled to their opinions and beliefs; however, when those beliefs question my right to exist as a human being on this planet, and encourage destruction of anything positive in this life, it hits at a deep and personal level. Basically, my recent tolerance for intolerance has decreased to a point where I don't feel I can positively contribute anymore.

I will lurk, and when I feel I have regained a level of control over my intolerance of what bigotry does exist here, then I will return. I could name specific names, and then some would come to their defense, and some would come to mine, and there would be bashing back and forth, until any particular segment died out. This is the normal back and forth, and often stimulates new ideas, and helps to educate me as to why people think the way they do. This enriches my life, and expands my mind, even if I strongly disagree with the thinking. I suppose if this makes me a big pussy, so be it. I appreciate that some of the straight people may not interpret some of what I have seen as bashing as such. They have their perspective, I have mine. Walk a mile in someone else's shoes, and all that.

Again, I wish all well, and I will return when I feel I am able to impose restraints on my own reactions and emotions. Thank you for your consideration.
Regards,
Davidjh7

 

[SpoiledPrincess]

I don't think the site is any less intolerant either but I've not been on it a huge amount of time. The thing with intolerance is it gets strong reactions whereas tolerance passes unnoticed, so intolerance does tend to stick out more on here - surely a sign that the majority of us are tolerant as we tend to rip into the bashers?

It does cut both ways though, I've been told a number of times by gay men that this is a gay site and that women shouldn't be on here. Fortunately most of the people of whatever sexual persuasion are cool and I think intolerance of most kinds is coming from ignorance, the intolerant should get out more and learn that there's more than one way to live your life and that because 'you' chose a certain way of life it doesn't make it any more valid or worthy than any other way of life

 

[frizzle]

You sir, are an attention whore.

 

[agnslz]

Fuck 'em all, I say! I'll be damned if I'm ever gonna leave here over a few retarded and homophobic assholes.

 

[Principessa]

My advice is dont let it bother u. I havn't noticed any gay bashing goin on?

Then you must be drunk or living under a rock.

Just ignore the trolls and get on with it mate! That is so much easier said than done. The people of LPSG are hugely accepting (I know:redface

I agree. The site is as tolerant as it ever was, there are just a few very vocal trolls who have got some serious issues they want to take out on us. It's a great way to learn how to deal with intolerance.

Pffftt! As a 41 yr old black woman I gotta agree with the OP. I am tired of tolerating this bullshit! I've dealt with it my entire life. I come here for respite, relaxation, fun, light hearted banter. It's getting so thats hard to find. More importantly dodging these hate mongers is becoming more and more difficult; even in threads which appear to be normal or at least blandly titled.:frown1: Consider the trolls targets for witticism skeet.

If I wanted to skeet shoot I would go to the shooting range down the road from my house.

You sir, are an attention whore.

You sir, are often part of the problem.

 

[frizzle]

You sir, are often part of the problem.

Aww you called me sir. Thank you. :biggrin1:

 

[Principessa]

Aww you called me sir. Thank you. :biggrin1:

I don't recall telling you it was okay to take down your cock pics. Your cock is the only thing about you I consistently liked.:tongue:

 

[Guy-jin]

I haven't seen an inordinate amount of homophobic or hateful posting on this forum. To be honest, this is one of the most tolerant boards I've ever seen, and not just of homosexuality, but of just about everything.

Don't let one or two trolls stop you from participating!