intro and question

[Big Al]

I was reminded about something I read awhile back in a PE guide I bought from a sex shop.

I've been applying for disable veterans status and part of it is the jock itch scar on my shaft I mentioned before. The skin will crack on it if I'm too active, and i needed photos of it so I decided to masturbate ravenously today =P and my wife promised me a couple handjobs later today. Anyway it prevented me from getting hard enough to do my jelq session and that reminded me of what I read.

The literature said that you shouldn't have any type of release(masturbation or sex) before jelqing, or for the rest of the day after jelqing. Beyond my inability to maintain a proper erection for jelqing today as that isnt typical, is there any reason you shouldn't ejaculate in close proximity to you sessions?

Have you tried applying cocoa butter or some other light vitamin-enhanced cream to your skin?

If you're looking to abstain from ejaculating for whatever reason, you should know that any built up semen (from "edging", sex, masturbation, etc.) that isn't expressed through ejaculation will be voided the next time you urinate.

For more details, I responded to a discussion on masturbating and PE results in greater detail here.

 

[gerbil]

I practice edging though I didn't know it had a name before I started frequenting this forum. It basically was just the way I masturbated not for any reason other than it was a habbit I got into because I would masturbate for as short as 15 min but up to an hour. I always would always finish though. Thats is really interesting about expressing any built up ejaculate when urinating. I thought it was built up in the siminal vesicle out of the urine flow. Does your body just let it release when you urinate?

I will attempt to find the article I was speaking about so you get a better idea of what i'm getting at.

 

[Zayne]

everyone knows that pulling your cock will make it longer. that's why men who have masturbated have long penii

 

[gerbil]

I've noticed that too. After I got in a stable relationship and started getting laid nightly instead of monthly I gained about 1/4 inch in length. My goal is to go for another inch in length and about a half inch in girth... somewhere around there.

 

[gerbil]

I missed an entire day this week so I only got 8 sessions in instead of the planned 10.

It went well though, started increasing the pressure of my jelqs.

I did 2 sessions on mon,tues,fri,sat. I missed thursday cause I was stuck at my inlaws all day... somehow I don't think it would have gone well if I tried to do mq PE routine in a house full of inlaws.

I refrained from measuring this week and intend to check myself at the end of the 6th week though I haven't visibly noticed any erect gains. I have finally started to notice some veins getting larger though.

 

[gerbil]

Did my 6th week, im already on my 7th week break.

I missed 1 session, so i got in 9 of the planned 10 sessions 80jelq each.

I still haven't noticed any erect gains, is this normal for the time i've put in so far?

 

[Big Al]

Did my 6th week, im already on my 7th week break.

I missed 1 session, so i got in 9 of the planned 10 sessions 80jelq each.

I still haven't noticed any erect gains, is this normal for the time i've put in so far?

No, you should have seen some kind of gain by now. You should also be beyond doing the basic routine as well.

Do you feel like the workouts are challenging enough? What about your stamina- has it improved?

 

[gerbil]

My routine has been in the shower, warming up by soaking, and massaging to partial errection. Doing my jelqs, then jiggling for a minute until im about 40% erect. Then I do my OM and I end it at about 80-90% erect. This last week about every other time I would squeeze the base and "baloon" myself for about 10-15 seconds twice. Then I would soak for a cool down.

Since first having sex I've had problems with not being able to climax on an occasion and I think that might be due to my masturbation habbit of "edging" for the past 10 years or so. So as far as my stamina I haven't noticed any difference. I also would already get really firm erections, sometime to the point of being a little uncomforteable. So as far as stamina and erection strength I haven't noticed any changes, but I'm pretty healthy in that department.

The only noticed change has been my increased length while flacid, it feels as if my penis is more relaxed while flacid, as if it doesnt draw up as much as it used to. It doesnt apear as if there is more material. I have also noticed larger side veins, and possibly some new veins on the top.

The workouts for the first few weeks didn't feel very challenging, I started increasing the tightness of my hand while jelqing. When getting to the end of the stroke I can feel the blood rushing around inside my shaft, I can even see the dorsal vein go flat during the jelq feel and see it rush back full of blood at the end of the stroke. The head will swell and get a bumpy appearance like the skin of an avacado.

After I increased the strength of my jelq like that in about the middle of the 3rd week I felt as if I was in the right place. I didn't really start noticing any soreness untill I was in my 5th week and bumped it up to 2 a day.

 

[Big Al]

My routine has been in the shower, warming up by soaking, and massaging to partial errection. Doing my jelqs, then jiggling for a minute until im about 40% erect. Then I do my OM and I end it at about 80-90% erect. This last week about every other time I would squeeze the base and "baloon" myself for about 10-15 seconds twice. Then I would soak for a cool down.

Since first having sex I've had problems with not being able to climax on an occasion and I think that might be due to my masturbation habbit of "edging" for the past 10 years or so. So as far as my stamina I haven't noticed any difference. I also would already get really firm erections, sometime to the point of being a little uncomforteable. So as far as stamina and erection strength I haven't noticed any changes, but I'm pretty healthy in that department.

The only noticed change has been my increased length while flacid, it feels as if my penis is more relaxed while flacid, as if it doesnt draw up as much as it used to. It doesnt apear as if there is more material. I have also noticed larger side veins, and possibly some new veins on the top.

The workouts for the first few weeks didn't feel very challenging, I started increasing the tightness of my hand while jelqing. When getting to the end of the stroke I can feel the blood rushing around inside my shaft, I can even see the dorsal vein go flat during the jelq feel and see it rush back full of blood at the end of the stroke. The head will swell and get a bumpy appearance like the skin of an avacado.

After I increased the strength of my jelq like that in about the middle of the 3rd week I felt as if I was in the right place. I didn't really start noticing any soreness untill I was in my 5th week and bumped it up to 2 a day.

Your first workouts should have been challenging but manageable. Doing much less than you're capable of isn't going to stimulate growth. I suggest trying to seriously challenge yourself on the next workout, and work up from there.

 

[gerbil]

alright, should I be tightening my grip, or prolonging each stroke, adding more reps... or maybe a little of all of that? =P

I finished my 6th week at 80 reps.

 

[las000005]

Are you pressing to the fat pad when you are doing that? It sure does look quite long.

 

[Big Al]

alright, should I be tightening my grip, or prolonging each stroke, adding more reps... or maybe a little of all of that? =P

I finished my 6th week at 80 reps.

Yes, some of each is the ticket

 

[gerbil]

alright just came off my 7th week break. Starting back over at week 1. As suggested I increased my stroke duration, tightness, and jelq count. I was planning on starting this week at 40 reps so I upped it to 50.

All three sessions went over fine. The first time I think I was squeezing way to hard I actually had a couple of very very small tears in my skin. They didn't bleed or anything and they healed up almost overnight, didn't prevent me from doing my next routing 48 hrs later. So I think I found my maximum tightness that is healthy.

I didn't measure this week, I will check my progress next week about 24hrs after my 3rd session.

I'm crossing my fingers for some measurable erect gains after hitting a couple weeks hard after my week off.

 

[D_CountVonBhigBohner]

are you all serious?

 

[Big Al]

are you all serious?

About PE? Yes we are. Why do you ask?

 

[gerbil]

I'm very serious. If you read my initial post I'm a skeptic the only reason I gate it much time of day in the first place was after I had a consisten length and girth for several years I got married and my sex life rapidly increased and along with it over the course of about a year I gained about half an inch.

I figured if it could happen inadvertantly from frequent intercourse there might be something to it.

I've now been doing to routine for about 9 weeks, and I haven't made noticeable gains while erect, thought my last measurement showed about 1/4 inch increase in length that kind of variance is normal for me. So untill it surpasses that I will partially mantain my skepticism.

I can attest that I have had very noticeably flacid gains. First in length, and over the past couple weeks i've had some visual girth gains and my head appears larger. Enough so that my wife has accused me of having a "chubby" while brushing my teeth. I didnt =)

Consider this though... even if it doesnt work, but a guy percieves that it has, and he gains confidence through it. Then that is more than a good enough reason for everyone to continue their efforts.

 

[gerbil]

This week was a little chaotic. I only got in 2 sessions instead of my planned 3. I had family in town, and finding time to methodically stroke my manhood was difficult =P

So I did 2 sessions 60 jelq each. Everything went fine, no noticeable changes to report.

 

[Big Al]

I've now been doing to routine for about 9 weeks, and I haven't made noticeable gains while erect, thought my last measurement showed about 1/4 inch increase in length that kind of variance is normal for me. So untill it surpasses that I will partially mantain my skepticism.

Hmmm... you should have seen some measureable gains by now.

At 9 weeks, you should be doing more intense movements than those described in the beginner's routine.

A good exercise that'll help spur growth is the "Ruler Stretch".

Get a plastic or wooden ruler (no metal edges). Place the ruler next to your flaccid penis. Use a towel or other suitable padding to protect the pubic area from the pressure of the ruler.

With one hand, hold the ruler firmly to the base of the penis. With your other hand, grasp your penis behind the head (glans) and pull. Hold for a count of 10. Do up to 20 sets of these, and see how far you can stretch your penis and record the measurement.

Do these once every 2 to 4 weeks. If you do The Ruler Stretch more frequently than that, you won't really see the changes.

You'll find a video for the Ruler Stretch linked on the Free PE Videos page.

 

[gerbil]

First off, I did the ruler stretch this week on my first day before my routine. The first stretch yeilded 7 1/4", the final stretch was 7 1/2" which is the typical variance i also get doing my bone pressed measurement. I've had measurements of 7 1/2 as long as 5 years ago.

This weeks routine went without a hitch. I'm about to run and go do my 4th session for this week at 70 jelq each.

I still haven't noticed any erect gains under normal circumstances, but I have started noticing that "baseball bat" appearance ONLY immediately after my routines. Within an hour it goes back to normal. The greatest gains during the period immediately following the exercise is I would guess a 10-20% gain in the size of the head. This too also returns to normal.


I have begun to notice that my penis is fatter when not fully erect. With a "chubby", like a 79-80% erection it seems more full. My 100% erect size still hasn't had any noticeable gains.

I'm hoping these new developments with post exercise gains, and semi-erect gains are a precursor to some decent erect gains.

I have noticed a new dark colored varacose vein on the left side of my shaft that is similar in appearance to a "clogged" lymph channel I had after a jock itch infection several years ago. The old one went away when I treated it with hot compounds every day. Hopefully this is the same thing and will just go away with the hot compounds that come with the PE routine.

 

[D_Elwald Harribum]

I am beginning to think it does not work.