is average small?

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I see different average sizes pretty much daily at the gym and I do find the majority of men to be small. I'm "very large" when soft and it causes men around me to get erections, and so I've often seen their hard stats, and also found them to be quite small.

I guess it's like being a millionaire and looking at people just out of college.

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Straight men get hard just looking at your soft cock? That's a good one.
 

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Straight men get hard just looking at your soft cock? That's a good one.

I don't think they get hard out of excitement, but maybe out of worry or indignation or some other self-esteem related thing. Not all men, especially not older men. It's mostly young-ish guys who have a lot to prove and/or who feel like they should be the best or biggest. It's a ubiquitous type here.

And gay guys.
 

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I'm kinda new to the gay scene but have probably been with 20 guys in the last two years...I would say almost all of them were over 7 inches. I am 5.5 inches and only one guy was smaller than me. I am supposedly exactly average, but I think it is small and my experience has born this out. I heard somewhere that there was some research that the average gay penis is one inch larger than the straight population. Wondering about your experience?


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I agree with the larger men are more secure post and less worried to compare. I was in the Army and lived in the college dorms after. I never noticed any that I thought were small but 1 in the Army and 2 in the dorms. I think that it is natural to posture in showers which is getting semi hard without standing straight up. I have seen men get hard in the showers. In the Army, everyone questioned the guys sexual orientation, and he wasn't small at all. The second time at the dorm, one big guy was laughing and talking constantly with me. I was smiling, but wanted him to quit talking so I wouldn't roar with laughter. No I wouldn't laugh at the guy that was hard, but the big guys reaction was getting me tickled. I never worked so hard to not laugh, but my smile was causing my face to ache! Big, small, med, average a cock is a cock and like the Kenny Rogers song, there's someone for everyone. The only biological function of a penis is to ejaculate semen for the procreation of the species. How long is a man's leg supposed to be? Long enough for his body to not hit the ground.
 

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I don't think they get hard out of excitement, but maybe out of worry or indignation or some other self-esteem related thing. Not all men, especially not older men. It's mostly young-ish guys who have a lot to prove and/or who feel like they should be the best or biggest. It's a ubiquitous type here.

And gay guys.

Sorry lykaner, but I find this astonishing. I've never remotely been close to having an erection at the sight of another man's dick - nor have I ever witnessed any straight friends, or college friends I shared a locker room with react like that.
 

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Sorry lykaner, but I find this astonishing. I've never remotely been close to having an erection at the sight of another man's dick - nor have I ever witnessed any straight friends, or college friends I shared a locker room with react like that.

Well, you could attribute that to a different culture of machoism, a different stock of people or any other number of factors. But surely my experience must be considered well within the realm of possibilities, unless you are so determined to only believe that which has happened to you. Or the fact that those who did not react like I described were, as you said, your friends.

Or maybe your penis is not quite as large soft as mine, and elicits a completely different response from people.
 

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Well, you could attribute that to a different culture of machoism, a different stock of people or any other number of factors. But surely my experience must be considered well within the realm of possibilities, unless you are so determined to only believe that which has happened to you. Or the fact that those who did not react like I described were, as you said, your friends.

Or maybe your penis is not quite as large soft as mine, and elicits a completely different response from people.

You're talking about a physiological response to an arousing stimulus. What is arousing can be cultural, but heterosexuals are heterosexuals whether they live in Antarctica or Burkina Faso. Penises are not arousing to straight men, regardless of culture, the population observing the penis, or any other factor. It's possible that there may be some men who are bi with a strong heterosexual bias and have a latent reponse to penises, but I'm extremely sceptical that this is as widespread as you seem to be hinting, unless I've misinterpreted your post.

I've never read about, heard about or experienced anything remotely like this level of widespread heterosexual atraction to penises anywhere. The only place I've seen this idea that straight men are all secretly just waiting to be "turned", or have latent heterosexual responses, is in the claims of gay members on LPSG. I wouldn't be surprised if a strong element of fantasy or wishful thinking is involved.
 

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you've been with 20 guys in two weeks...and your main concern is your dick size? how bout putting your thought higher on do you have an std. condoms ,even giving a blow job? if your doi'n more than one dude a day.....14 days 20 dudes......whoa.
 
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Average in our mind is different than the statistical numbers. Because everyone forms his own average from experience.
Todays average in the mind of men and women is completely different than 25years ago.
Even straight men see a lot of erected peni (porn), and that shifts enormous the average in our mind.
But it is still statistically the same as 25years ago (maybe less with the oestrogens in the groundwater ).

Then - the very big peni...
Years ago at a holiday party of my sister, a friend of her gave her a hollow silicone dildo, filled with beer that she had to drink up. Under loud applause she did with a red head ( 18 ).
We all had much pleasure.
Everyone was holding that thing afterwards to the crotch to see how it looks like to have such an enormous penis.
Well my sister gave it to me afterwards, and I still have it today.
Its a dildo - nice shaped like a real penis - but just giant.
And the dimensions are - 25cm L - diameter of 6cm; which is L 9"84 x G 7"41
I never saw something big like that in porn.
That's one of the reasons that I don't believe the so many claims to have/to have seen or experienced a +10" here on this board.
You can try this easy at home with a big dildo, or even a plastic pipe that you cut at 10".
Hold it to your pubis and look in a mirror...
 

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Yep.

People also like to talk about the "high" or "low" range of average. A 'range' with respect to an average (or a median, which I think makes more sense with body sizes -- the average isn't always where 50% are bigger and 50% are smaller) should be taken as 1 standard deviation away, since that's effectively where most of the sample falls.

Standard deviation is the average amount that something varies from the average. Whenever people here talk about what constitutes a "big" or "small" dick, the only good way to do this is to just look at the standard deviation. Being within one standard deviation is what you should consider the 'average' range, being above one but within two deviations is 'small' or 'big', and anywhere outside of 2 would be 'tiny' or 'huge'. Outside 3 is an extremely uncommon occurrence, and is considered medically abnormal.

So these numbers are from some higher deviating studies, but the highest deviation is 0.7", and the average most medical studies place for BPEL is 5.5" or a little below that.

-2 dev : 4.1"
-1 dev : 4.8"
0 : 5.5"
+1 dev : 6.2"
+2 dev : 6.9"

We seem to naturally understand deviation when it comes to human height : someone a few inches taller than someone else is noticeably much taller, even though as a percentage difference in height that's generally <4%. Our brains know what the variability is, so we naturally see these few inches of height difference as a major difference in size. We apply the same thinking to dicks, but since we don't really know the numbers someone an inch longer than someone else looks (and is) a lot longer, but we often believe that's 2-3 inches more.


Wait, so my dick is like 6.3 in, and its 5.5 in thick. Would that be considered thick? I have only ever had one lover so I don't really know lol.
 

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You're talking about a physiological response to an arousing stimulus. What is arousing can be cultural, but heterosexuals are heterosexuals whether they live in Antarctica or Burkina Faso. Penises are not arousing to straight men, regardless of culture, the population observing the penis, or any other factor. It's possible that there may be some men who are bi with a strong heterosexual bias and have a latent reponse to penises, but I'm extremely sceptical that this is as widespread as you seem to be hinting, unless I've misinterpreted your post.

I've never read about, heard about or experienced anything remotely like this level of widespread heterosexual atraction to penises anywhere. The only place I've seen this idea that straight men are all secretly just waiting to be "turned", or have latent heterosexual responses, is in the claims of gay members on LPSG. I wouldn't be surprised if a strong element of fantasy or wishful thinking is involved.

I understand what you mean. However, I do think penis size, at least, should not be underrepresented as a source of excitement (perhaps not purely sexual, but tapping into the man-ego) to men, especially if you look at porn in general, when anything short of real-life huge usually just isn't quite good enough.

The incidents I'm talking about have happened a few times, perhaps a dozen times or so in 3 years of being around naked people 3-6 times a week (times 2). So these are not impossibly high numbers either.

The most recent and probably most striking incident was last summer, when i was changing and taking a shower before going to the pool. There were a lot of children and teenagers, including one guy, probably 16-18. He was tall and had the best body of his buddies, and was proudly displaying his sort of physical superiority status, but when I arrived, he first got a slight semi to seem big, which he really was, but I out-sized him and perhaps his attempt at pushing a semi went too far, but he got an erection. Later I was waiting outside and he came out with his girlfriend. He saw me looking at him and her, and he sort of turned her around and lead the way out.

It was weird, but it definitively happened. I told my girlfriend as soon as she came out. She high-fived me.
 

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you've been with 20 guys in two weeks...and your main concern is your dick size? how bout putting your thought higher on do you have an std. condoms ,even giving a blow job? if your doi'n more than one dude a day.....14 days 20 dudes......whoa.

Why be such a downer and just assume he was being unsafe? This reads so much like the sex education material I grew up with: watch out, or you'll immediately get an STD!

There are plenty of promiscuous people who practice safe sex, and safe sex is very safe. If you wrap it up, and wash up afterwards (which again is something that scare-mongering education ignores, but is actually very effective at avoiding herpes) you're fine. If anything, you'll be a lot healthier living like this than being repressed and developing a heart condition from all the stress.

I hear someone's getting laid that much, and my response is *highfive*!
 

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I'm kinda new to the gay scene but have probably been with 20 guys in the last two years...I would say almost all of them were over 7 inches. I am 5.5 inches and only one guy was smaller than me. I am supposedly exactly average, but I think it is small and my experience has born this out. I heard somewhere that there was some research that the average gay penis is one inch larger than the straight population. Wondering about your experience?
Yes small if you measure bad.
People 8+" cock is fucking rare here on LPSG , i never seen maybe 10 cocks bigger than 8" on cam4 but I see about 500 cocks on cam4.
You are not 5.5", you are maybe under 5" ....
 

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The incidents I'm talking about have happened a few times, perhaps a dozen times or so in 3 years of being around naked people 3-6 times a week (times 2). So these are not impossibly high numbers either.

From your previous post I incorrectly assumed that you were claiming it happened much more frequently. Although it isn't my experience, I agree that those figures aren't too outlandish.
 

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Wait, so my dick is like 6.3 in, and its 5.5 in thick. Would that be considered thick? I have only ever had one lover so I don't really know lol.

If its measured NBP along the top, horizontally while standing then it's longer than average. It's definitely thicker than average.

Don't believe 90% of what you read on internet forums on the subject.