is it wrong to ask a partner to sign a prenup?

the trail of tears was MEANT to be an act of charity of the gift of civilization to the savage red man, but just like most marriages it didn't go so well. now you can take that 1000 bucks at the end of the month and give to your ex cause you worked hard to make them comfortable in that house built of the redmans land, or you can keep it and go lose it in one of their FINE casinos or anything else you want cause its yours. "should" and a nickle will get you a cup of coffee anywhere.

news flash, 51% (thats most) end in divorce, I know you're mom told you you're special... but just like that bitch who said she'd love you forever... she lied!

a pre nup isn't expecting the worst, its hoping for the best, planning for the worst and being prepared for anything

Someone hurt you badly in the past either that or you have some serious trust issues.

Tell me this why would you bother to get married, why not just live together as partners?

The reason why the divorce rate is so high is primarily because a lot of young people rush to marry because they thing that's what they should do with their life.

We should be teaching people to think more about the consequences of marriage and what marriage should mean.

I myself think marriage is an out-dated concept but I believe that if your going to sign up for it you need to be committed to trying to make it work. For this to be the case I think a couple need to each other really well and in my opinion this is very rarely the case with young people.
 
No, it isn't.
For me, signing one would not mean anything more than an insurance policy protecting our futures, should the relationship not last or end on bad terms. I'm not vindictive and either is he, but whose to say that two or twenty years down the road we would have the same caring mindset. :shrug:

Prenups are a pragmatic response to the reality that people change. Take it from some one who's been in four relationships that involved complete asset sharing (including joint bank accounts): people change in ways no one could have expected at the beginning of the relationship.

Oh, and people lie a lot, too. There's nothing quite like a legal document to keep one's mind focused on reality and truth. But, again, I've always copped to having deplorably shitty taste in men, and I haven't always been an angel, either.
 
Prenups are a pragmatic response to the reality that people change. Take it from some one who's been in four relationships that involved complete asset sharing (including joint bank accounts): people change in ways no one could have expected at the beginning of the relationship.

Oh, and people lie a lot, too. There's nothing quite like a legal document to keep one's mind focused on reality and truth. But, again, I've always copped to having deplorably shitty taste in men, and I haven't always been an angel, either.

I can see your halo...even if no one else can.:wink:
 
I would say it is something to consider.

When I was engaged...i wanted a prenup for future inheritance and future children in the event of divorce or if something happened to me and i wasn't around to care for my children. I secretly hoped that if we ever had children and I passed away or something, that my parents would split custody with my fiance, so that my influence was still there.

the more i thought about this, the more i realized how obvious it was that we weren't meant to be together. if i ever do find someone to spend my life and have a family with, i will wait for someone who i trust enough to not have the fear of what will happen if i am gone. not sure if this makes sense.
 
Prenups are a pragmatic response to the reality that people change. Take it from some one who's been in four relationships that involved complete asset sharing (including joint bank accounts): people change in ways no one could have expected at the beginning of the relationship.

Oh, and people lie a lot, too. There's nothing quite like a legal document to keep one's mind focused on reality and truth. But, again, I've always copped to having deplorably shitty taste in men, and I haven't always been an angel, either.

Good advice. I clicked on the thread to say exactly what you did in your first sentence.

Sometimes relationships that both parties really think will work-out do not, and, irrespective of who had what in the beginning, things are a lot less complicated in the aftermaths of relationships with pre-nuptual agreements. I would add, although this may be obvious, that you should consult with a lawyer as to what the substance of any pre-nup should be rather than using a website's template or something of that nature.
 
I would never get married without signing a prenup first. I'm a romantic, but I'm realistic as well. There is no way that I would want to be putting half or more of my assets in play in the very statistically likely event that the marriage won't work out. I have seen vast fortunes squandered on messy divorces where the only parties to benefit are the attorneys, and I don't want to go down that path.

A prenup is simply an easy exit; it is a document that says, "If in the event that this marriage doesn't work out for X,Y, or Z reasons, here is what we will do and have a nice day." I think that it actually shows a great degree of consideration for the other party to the marriage because it says, "Hey, if for whatever reason this doesn't work out we're not going to go into some awful drawn-out court thing, it will just end in this simple way."
 
i have no problem with prenups. some people have wealth to protect, and like QG said it's just a document that states clearly what goes where and what happens if. it's a practical thing, insurance just in case of to protect assets & whatnot.
 
If you have enough money where you need to sign a prenup, then you probably shouldn't get married in the first place.

In the words of some rich person, never buy anything that flies, floats or fucks.
 
If you have enough money where you need to sign a prenup, then you probably shouldn't get married in the first place.

In the words of some rich person, never buy anything that flies, floats or fucks.
You wouldn't possibly be talking about Sir Branson would you?:biggrin1:
 
I would say it is something to consider.

When I was engaged...i wanted a prenup for future inheritance and future children in the event of divorce or if something happened to me and i wasn't around to care for my children. I secretly hoped that if we ever had children and I passed away or something, that my parents would split custody with my fiance, so that my influence was still there.

the more i thought about this, the more i realized how obvious it was that we weren't meant to be together. if i ever do find someone to spend my life and have a family with, i will wait for someone who i trust enough to not have the fear of what will happen if i am gone. not sure if this makes sense.

This is how I feel. If I'm thinking about getting married and I'm concerned about protecting myself from the person that I'm marrying, then I'm not going to get married. If we break up, we both walk away with our own assets protected. Simple.

I guess I just don't understand what is meaningful about a marriage that is "protected" by a prenup, unless the person that you're marrying is significantly wealthier than you are, and even then, aren't you just living together like boyfriend and girlfriend? Is it something that you do just to have the fun of wearing a white dress and a tuxedo at a wedding?

Does it have something to do with a stigma about not being married? Why don't more people just stay single?
 
This is how I feel. If I'm thinking about getting married and I'm concerned about protecting myself from the person that I'm marrying, then I'm not going to get married. If we break up, we both walk away with our own assets protected. Simple.

I guess I just don't understand what is meaningful about a marriage that is "protected" by a prenup, unless the person that you're marrying is significantly wealthier than you are, and even then, aren't you just living together like boyfriend and girlfriend? Is it something that you do just to have the fun of wearing a white dress and a tuxedo at a wedding?

Does it have something to do with a stigma about not being married? Why don't more people just stay single?

You hit the nail on the head. Marriage has developed into a social convention whereby single people are in some way seen as odd, and to be single is seen to be a misfit in some way.
 
A prenup is really not worth the paper that it is written on. A better option is to put all of your assets like real estate, stock portfolio, and vehicles into a revocable trust that you own. That way if you end up in divorce court you technically don't own all those assets that are in the trust...the trust owns them. Since you technically don't own them she and her lawyer can't touch them.

That advice to "never buy anything that flies, floats, or fucks is damn good advice!" Airplanes, boats, and women are very expensive and costly to maintain. LOL
 
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This is how I feel. If I'm thinking about getting married and I'm concerned about protecting myself from the person that I'm marrying, then I'm not going to get married. If we break up, we both walk away with our own assets protected. Simple.

I guess I just don't understand what is meaningful about a marriage that is "protected" by a prenup, unless the person that you're marrying is significantly wealthier than you are, and even then, aren't you just living together like boyfriend and girlfriend? Is it something that you do just to have the fun of wearing a white dress and a tuxedo at a wedding?

Does it have something to do with a stigma about not being married? Why don't more people just stay single?

Yes. Totally.