SpoiledPrincess
Expert Member
We do that Kalipygian, it still doesn't stop them coming in the chat room for instance and suckering some poor guy into believing they're genuine, then when he finds out he's all disenchanted with women on the net.
I think that not only should stolen pix be ban-able, but provable fakes (Photoshopped) that are attempted to be passed off as real should be also. The public censuring does NOT work. We do that now, and it has very limited success. Once in a while people will pull the offending pix, but there are still tons of "duplicate" images in the galleries, as well as pix that can been seen by the naked eye to have used the Photoshop "clone" tool to elongate, or otherwise enhance the image.
Yes, it would have to go through the same process, but I still think that it should be a basis for warning, and the process to start. If you had pix posted, and found them elsewhere being used by someone else, TRUST ME, you'd want at least a banning. It's identity theft!Too much, nov.
Of course, many are suggesting a series of warnings leading up to a ban.
Perhaps that would work.
And those few that would ultimately be banned would be hoist by their own retard.
Too much, nov.
Of course, many are suggesting a series of warnings leading up to a ban. Perhaps that would work. And those few that would ultimately be banned would be hoist by their own retard.
Yes, it would have to go through the same process, but I still think that it should be a basis for warning, and the process to start. If you had pix posted, and found them elsewhere being used by someone else, TRUST ME, you'd want at least a banning. It's identity theft!
Bannings are case-by-case anyway, so it would have to be figured out in the process who was who, but as you admitted, sometimes it's quite obvious, and I would actually go farther and say that MOST times it's quickly provable.The problem comes in when it's not clear which is the victim and which the thief.
But sometimes that's quite obvious.
Often.
I am going through reading these as well. And wanted to make a comment on the underage. I am not the brightest light bulb when it comes to being able to "google" different kinds of things on the Internet. I do know that it might be inappropriate to have a list of all banned underaged as those who know how can take that list and make it much easier to identify and contact those underage particularly if they left an e-mail address laying around.The workaround for stating the reason for banning in the case of underage members could be simply stating that they had 'falsified date of birth' in their registration. Or just 'falsification of registration information'. ( I have no idea how moderators can be certain, in many cases, of a person's age)
I have not seen a persuasive argument presented that there is need for secrecy in any other catagory of banning.
Thanks.:biggrin1:
Several have debated which is better a certain post count or a certain period of time as a member. Jeff pointed out the best reason for two week membership. It would reduce spammers.On a more general note -- I'm enjoying these suggestions. I've seen other boards with a "require X posts before allowing Y" rule (Thundersplace is one, for example), and I believe it lowers overall post quality, thanks to members trying thoughtlessly to reach that X-post threshhold.
I'm also in favor of less permanent bans, more use of diplomacy and explaining to temporary banned members why they were banned. All too often they're temp banned, then will do something rash because of a lack of explanation and end up permanently banned. Aside from the underage users, I think we should make the reason for a ban public as well. This whole latest incident would have never occured if a small notice was made in the help desk, a locked topic with the banned person's ID and a small statement of reason for the banning.
I agree with Kotch that members need to have trust in the mods, and if they feel were doing something inappropriate or wrong that they can report us to someone. I don't think this person should be Rob_E though, he's a busy guy and can't be dealing with a bunch of complaints. Some may be valid but I suspect generally speaking that most would be hate against the individual. We can't have Rob_E sifting through 20 PMs about why Hickboy is an ass =).
What I would recommend since we do need to be held accountable is having the Co-admins responsible for the mods. If someone has a valid complaint, bring it to mindseye or Pecker, the Co-Admins. If they feel it warrants some looking into, they'll discuss it and bring it up with Rob, where the three will decide the fate and outcome.
Lastly I wanted to comment on Gold Members voting on future mods. I think this is a bad idea. As you said Kotch, there's the popularity contest aspect to it, but thats just a very small reason. Its always been my belief that the paying members here are no different than the rest of us. I mean no disrespect by that, your contribution is extremely appreciated. But there were a number of Gold Members who during my time as mod have demanded I explain myself, my actions, wanting to know outcomes of a banning, etc. They even went as far as saying "I am a paying member, I demand to know" etc. These people are no more welcomed to information than the rest of the public membership.
Everyone contributes to this great site in their own way, some members make great posts, bringing great intellectual content here. Others post wonderful galleries of themselves attracting others to join the site, a few of us do our best here as moderators and Co-Admins which we don't get paid for, were volunteers who were originally members and loved the site enough to want to help out. Its not a power trip, we don't want to be mods to ban people we don't like. Regardless, everyone is contributing in their own way, whether it be money or content, everyone is the same. We are LPSG.
Lastly I wanted to comment on Gold Members voting on future mods. I think this is a bad idea. As you said Kotch, there's the popularity contest aspect to it, but thats just a very small reason. Its always been my belief that the paying members here are no different than the rest of us. I mean no disrespect by that, your contribution is extremely appreciated. But there were a number of Gold Members who during my time as mod have demanded I explain myself, my actions, wanting to know outcomes of a banning, etc. They even went as far as saying "I am a paying member, I demand to know" etc. These people are no more welcomed to information than the rest of the public membership.
I would like to see a system in place where if a new member signs up, and uploads pics to the gallery, the person must hold up their local newspaper beside their pics. At least this way people can see the actual date that the person took the pic, and furthermore it is much more difficult to photoshop a newspaper edition to someones pic. (Before people blast me with photoshop ideology, I realize it's not fool proof however it is a start).
Personally I am sick of hearing how many guys pose as women in order to dupe men. I am also sick of women posting fake ass pics of themselves. I for one was subject to harrassment for 8 solid months due to most members paranoia. I personally think that if someone pretends to be a woman and is actually a man that person should get a ban permanently, and equally so if a woman posts fake pics of herself.