Mark E Miller

New to this forum but a long time follower of Mark and Ethan. If I were Mark, I’d be bothered by Ethan diving head first into a new revenue stream that is surely making him a nice amount of money and keeps him fresh and relevant (even if the quality of the OF is up for debate. The prices are outrageous). Like many are saying here, I agree Mark has become very boring on YouTube. His whole brand was the relationship with Ethan and their adventures — which was fun to watch — but now it’s him largely monologue-ing and there’s nothing special about it. Time to find a unique angle that people will care to see. I prefer him over Ethan on personal level and want to see him figure this out
 
New to this forum but a long time follower of Mark and Ethan. If I were Mark, I’d be bothered by Ethan diving head first into a new revenue stream that is surely making him a nice amount of money and keeps him fresh and relevant (even if the quality of the OF is up for debate. The prices are outrageous). Like many are saying here, I agree Mark has become very boring on YouTube. His whole brand was the relationship with Ethan and their adventures — which was fun to watch — but now it’s him largely monologue-ing and there’s nothing special about it. Time to find a unique angle that people will care to see. I prefer him over Ethan on personal level and want to see him figure this out
i agree about Mark getting boring lately… he needs to spice things up.
 
i agree about Mark getting boring lately… he needs to spice things u
Ethan was the interesting of the two. Mark has always been boring. The reason why you guys ignored it was because he was good looking and had the personality of boy next door meets frat bro. Now that he’s starting to look like his dad, you guys are complaining about it. He’s a good man and who’ll probably make some guy happy though.
 
Some ppl can sell the boring content well like Emma Chamberlain but at least she has opinions and is into fashion and coffee. What saves Emma is that she speaks to her generation well. She is intune with her generations issues and plugged in. Mark seems out of touch with his generation.
 
I can’t even be bothered to click on his new Abercrombie storytime video...

Let me guess, it’s a storytime about a 3 month stint working at the mall when he was 16?

Yaaaawwwwn.
It was a 3 month stint. How did you know? Lol

He said he was the worst employer as he never bought their clothes.

I watched it.
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To be fair, neither one of them are interesting and never have been. Mark was hot and together they were charming. Ethan got hot and it somehow threw off the balance of their entire relationship. Maybe Mark got jealous. Maybe Ethan cheated. Maybe both. But what we must never forget is that they were both always severely boring separately.
Ethan was the interesting of the two. Mark has always been boring. The reason why you guys ignored it was because he was good looking and had the personality of boy next door meets frat bro. Now that he’s starting to look like his dad, you guys are complaining about it. He’s a good man and who’ll probably make some guy happy though.
 
It was a 3 month stint. How did you know? Lol

He said he was the worst employer as he never bought their clothes.

I watched it.
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Did Mark use the Paula Abdul Promise of a New Day stretch lens on this video, he seems taller and thinner, even his face is elongate?

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It was a 3 month stint. How did you know? Lol

He said he was the worst employer as he never bought their clothes.

I watched it.
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LMAO! That’s hilarious. Goes to show you how predictable our little ole oatmeal boy can be :laughing: Thanks for saving me a listen with your recap.
 
Did Mark use the Paula Abdul Promise of a New Day stretch lens on this video, he seems taller and thinner, even his face is elongate?

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He is thinner and looks cute. The camera is placed at a flattering angle. He should keep it there from now on.
 
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I can’t even be bothered to click on his new Abercrombie storytime video...

Let me guess, it’s a storytime about a 3 month stint working at the mall when he was 16?

Yaaaawwwwn.
Who is this video even for? Do young kids shop at Abercrombie anymore? Anyone who watches his videos are probably in their late 20s - 30s. Do y’all still stop at Abercrombie? I don’t understand the need for this video.
 
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Who is this video even for? Do young kids shop at Abercrombie anymore? Anyone who watches his videos are probably in their late 20s - 30s. Do y’all still stop at Abercrombie? I don’t understand the need for this video.
He made video bc he just watched the Abercrombie Netflix documentary which was in the news for the pat month. I didn’t care to watch documentary nor do I have Netflix anymore. And bc he worked there for 3 months it made sense for him to create content around it. Is it content ppl want ? That’s up for debate. Did ppl ask for it ? Nope.
 
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I feel like Mark is doing like 16 things at once and all of them suck. lol I don’t care about his sit down podcast chats, his boring story times, his patreon where he gets to say fuck and show the kids how cool he still is - everything is bad and wrong.
 
I feel like Mark is doing like 16 things at once and all of them suck. lol I don’t care about his sit down podcast chats, his boring story times, his patreon where he gets to say fuck and show the kids how cool he still is - everything is bad and wrong.
It’s interesting you say this bc I don’t think he is actually doing that much. The podcast failed bc he couldn’t sustain talking for long periods of time as he doesn’t have much to say or come up with topics. He is such a bro. Heck you have 19 year old Emma starting a podcast and having actual interesting topics. It’s crazy bc you would think he would have something to say. But he doesn’t.
 
I liked some of the documentaries he did (i.e. the guy that owns the former gay nightclub). My favourite videos of his are the travel/exploring videos - I’d like to see him do more of them now. He seems a little lost but most gay men feel that way in their late 20’s. Throw in the end of a long relationship - I get it. Particularly being in a creative slump but being forced to churn out content to put food on the table.
 
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Yeah I feel his best bet is just becoming another solo travel vlogger, maybe going around the world and doing strange experiences he's never done before. Sitting in Indiana talking about what you watched on Netflix is tedious stuff.

I love this idea, but I’d like to add to it. Mark needs a fun friend and they need to travel the world and film their adventures together. I feel like, with the exception of Donny, Mark has never had a friend who’s brought out the fun crazy side in him. And you can tell by the way he looks at Donny that he loves that he’s able to do that for him. Donny really does bring out the best in Mark. Mark should have an entire group of friends like that, but he doesn’t. He has one fun friend and a shit ton of boring ones. For some reason, all of Mark’s friends are exactly like him: extremely vanilla creative types. He needs to find a fun and funny friend who entertains him and us and go explore the world. That’s the best way I can see him salvaging his channel. I would be fine with Mark making the boring videos he makes if he didn’t seem so damn sad. If he actually seemed to like the content he was making and didn’t seem so lost personally and creatively, I’d be like - okay, this isn’t for me anymore, but at least he’s happy. But he’s very clearly unhappy and even though I pick on him and criticize, I wouldn’t do it if I didn’t care. I would like to see him reinvent himself and his channel and just have fun. He’s in dire need of a friend group. Even back in the day when Ethan would go to school Mark would just go to the gym and take photos of bikes and go to the local battery shop. His life was lifeless even then. I’d love to see him and an entertaining bff or two exploring Iceland and other places around the world. With his amazing talents and a couple new friends to breathe new life into the experience, I think it’d be a lot of fun to watch.