Mark E Miller

[andre1000]

i mean, we've seen him do some freelance filming and photography, but idk if that's enough to pay the bills.
sponsors probably help. idk how much of his merch he sells, i know that's usually something that makes youtubers a lot of money because it's usually cheaply made but expensive.
i guess he could be one of those people who doesn't have a steady job and is just "living his dream", while the parents pay for everything. we don't really know.
i mean, there's a youtuber who's also big on cinematography just like mark, luke korns, and for the longest time we thought either he was getting some sugar or he was working as an editor for others, because there was no way he could be living his lavish life and constantly travelling just from what he was making off youtube, especially considering how rarely he uploaded. turns out he had neither of those things, spent all his early days money on his lavish life and now is completely broke, literally having to couch surf and find the cheapest places to sleep and eat.
mark doesn't seem to be cutting corners that badly, and he doesn't seem to have as lavish of a life as luke, but surely money must be coming from somewhere. idk how expensive the area he lives in is, so maybe the money from youtube plus sponsors and the occasional gig really is enough for everything

 

[Mike.Teru]

I mean, does it really matter where the money is coming from? I swear, some people really seem to be so anal about someone's family or upbringing that it almost sounds like jealousy.

 

[Carlos Santos]

Why do people care about his family's "well off status" again? It doesn't relate to him as a person nor as a creator.

Because he is literally the poster boy for "gay white privilege". He obviouslly comes from a "well off" family. His first videos heavilly featured his parents who live in a very nice property with boats and all, and are very accepting of him and his sexuality. So, he'd be just fine if his freelance/youtuber career fails completely.
That and the fact he seems to be such a prude also means he will never start an OF like his ex did.

 

[andre1000]

I mean, does it really matter where the money is coming from? I swear, some people really seem to be so anal about someone's family or upbringing that it almost sounds like jealousy.

this is a forum, and in forums people discuss topics. and the topic of this thread is mark. it's not just to post his thirst traps or the occasional shirtlessness or possible bulge, it's also to discuss aspects of his life, and his source of income, as well as his family's wealth are aspects of his life

 

[Darthchi]

this is a forum, and in forums people discuss topics. and the topic of this thread is mark. it's not just to post his thirst traps or the occasional shirtlessness or possible bulge, it's also to discuss aspects of his life, and his source of income, as well as his family's wealth are aspects of his life

But that part is not really important… we dont care if he has money or not or if it comes from family or not. How is it affecting anything in your life?

 

[Carlos Santos]

But that part is not really important… we dont care if he has money or not or if it comes from family or not. How is it affecting anything in your life?

Context matters, my dear

 

[andre1000]

But that part is not really important… we dont care if he has money or not or if it comes from family or not. How is it affecting anything in your life?

i care, because i like gossip. it was the main reason i even joined this site years ago, to gossip and talk shit about famous people. that's like 1/3 of the reasons why i'm on the internet, with the other 2 being to consume as much media content as i can and porn. so basically this site fills up the whole cup as to why i go online.
nothing about his existence affects anything in my life. i don't know the dude. i will never know the dude.
the thing is, this is a forum, and in forums, people tend to not just discuss but also speculate.
if you're not interested in knowing gossip and are only here for pics and vids, just scroll past the text and let the rest of us talk shit. because guess what? us discussing this also doesn't affect anything in your life

 

[Wallsblue]

Mark would really be getting more views and possibly more money, if he chooses to acknowledge who his viewers are. Every influencer has a target audience and they have to make content to keep those types of viewers engaged.

his Ex understood this and now he is making a ton of money on Of. Mark doesn’t have to go the same direction, but if he is looking to up this view count he needs to understand what the viewers want to see. Just look at the recent last two videos and their counts on YT and you will see exactly what I’m talking about.

 

[andre1000]

Mark would really be getting more views and possibly more money, if he chooses to acknowledge who his viewers are. Every influencer has a target audience and they have to make content to keep those types of viewers engaged.

his Ex understood this and now he is making a ton of money on Of. Mark doesn’t have to go the same direction, but if he is looking to up this view count he needs to understand what the viewers want to see. Just look at the recent last two videos and their counts on YT and you will see exactly what I’m talking about.

yup. his video on body issues is at 83k views. his video with jp(with the title stating he's an ex) is at over 100k views, the video about open relationships is also at 100k views. the video about his parents giving marital advice, which is the video prior to the body image one, is at 22k views. his video with olive titled "this is love" nearly 200k views, the video before it is the mini doc about the guy that bikes to work, 33k views, video before it is about dad, 43k views, video before that is about dating and why he's sober, 100k views.
it's clear people wanna see his private life, hear him talking about it, things he went through, things he's going through, etc, not about some random dude's work commute, or some straight boomers' advice on marriage

 

[Mike.Teru]

yup. his video on body issues is at 83k views. his video with jp(with the title stating he's an ex) is at over 100k views, the video about open relationships is also at 100k views. the video about his parents giving marital advice, which is the video prior to the body image one, is at 22k views. his video with olive titled "this is love" nearly 200k views, the video before it is the mini doc about the guy that bikes to work, 33k views, video before it is about dad, 43k views, video before that is about dating and why he's sober, 100k views.
it's clear people wanna see his private life, hear him talking about it, things he went through, things he's going through, etc, not about some random dude's work commute, or some straight boomers' advice on marriage

now, i have to agree on that tho. plus, the bike video was horrid

 

[RyanMars]

I follow a lot of YouTubers and they make good money from sponsorship deals which holds them over for a while and if they are smart they can invest. Some of these YouTubers are actually making bank.

I didn’t bother to watch the dad video. I find his dad so blase . All I know is he is a nice guy who likes to drink beer.

I think he will be fine. There is this other gay couple who lives out in the middle of nowhere in Canada who make good money from their Patreon and side incomes. They recently built a snow globe home. They were smart in that they cultivated an audience in interested in their niche, which is living off grid. Mark needs to find a niche. Also his audience which is older now with busy lives isn’t much on YouTube I believe. I find it interesting that Connor guy is still on YouTube. I am subbed to him by default.

With his following on IG and YouTube Mark has potential to reinvent himself. It’s possible. He is trying.

 

[RyanMars]

now, i have to agree on that tho. plus, the bike video was horrid

Why did ppl hate the bike video with non binary person. I liked it actually.

 

[RyanMars]

I agree to a large degree with what you are saying. I'm sure many of us can remember when the Mark and Ethan couple started and watching those videos weekly about their ongoing relationship. But now, you can see that both of them are lost---and very boring, without each other.

And I have always maintained that it's seemed like the two of them struggled to have a clean break, that they went back-and-forth a bit, because Mark in particular seems to struggle to get out of his bubble. You can really see that now too, like you're saying. He doesn't seem to make new friends, he goes back to old friends. And that's okay, but you're right that that's a limit of experience for him. You need experiences to be create.

However, I also think, maybe, just maybe, he has the capacity to surprise us. Even this body image video is causing conversation in this forum. There's something there... I'd just like to see him harness it more.

He is trying and I commend him. It’s not easy to reinvent yourself.

He should do more vlogs

Meet more ppl, or start a business. Something tech. He has a lot of options.

 

[Syllabus24]

His video today where he... not really interviewed but had his friend Gabriel talk about labels in the gay community was interesting. I think many of us have been hitting on the fact that his audience (including us) respond more to his personal content or gay/LGBTQ+ related content. So, I expect that video will do well. It has 21k as I type this and was only published a few hours ago.

 

[andre1000]

His video today where he... not really interviewed but had his friend Gabriel talk about labels in the gay community was interesting. I think many of us have been hitting on the fact that his audience (including us) respond more to his personal content or gay/LGBTQ+ related content. So, I expect that video will do well. It has 21k as I type this and was only published a few hours ago.

yeah, i mean, people subbed to him for gay content. initially more to see 2 hot gay dudes dating, but also just gay content in general, so it should do well. especially since it's titled with 2 of the most commonly used gay terms for body type.
i did find it kinda ironic and funny that gabriel was talking about how it's dumb people only date people with certain body types and are missing out on experiencing life, when not long ago mark made a whole video where he describes his ideal partner as being a carbon copy of himself

 

[RyanMars]

I get it, he doesn’t want to be pigeonholed but he built a gay audience. The new video is actually good.

 

[Val varro]

If he is not boner inducing perfection I don’t know what is.

 

[Val varro]

Mmm mmm mmm

 

[Syllabus24]

yeah, i mean, people subbed to him for gay content. initially more to see 2 hot gay dudes dating, but also just gay content in general, so it should do well. especially since it's titled with 2 of the most commonly used gay terms for body type.
i did find it kinda ironic and funny that gabriel was talking about how it's dumb people only date people with certain body types and are missing out on experiencing life, when not long ago mark made a whole video where he describes his ideal partner as being a carbon copy of himself

Oh what video was Mark saying all that about his ideal partner?

 

[majito2075]

He's so sweet <3