Measured porn stars??

[BillDunn]

Certainly a contender for the biggest in volume. Miro Manning’s another one I want to have a look at but only seen photos. Did he do porn?

I think I also came across stretcher while looking for “Sir”. His looked unnatural from what I remember. Could be the wrong guy though.

and makes sense with Shorty mack. Think he’s just got unique dimensions. Almost as long as he is thick.

Dicks that are long and that big around get even rarer yet. It seems that the longer penises get from average, the more the growth usually is length than girth. Sure, they still get thicker as they get longer, but usually it isn't a 1:1 ratio.

The "Sir" fellow has phimosis and I suspect that had he treated that with stretching tools at a younger age that he's be even longer, but not quite as big around. Either way, he'd still have the same volume.

The average dick is about 5.5" x 4.6" or a ratio of girth that is somewhere around 80-85% of it's length. It's funny how we don't consider that "thick", even though their girth is a higher % of their length than what we usually call thick. The girths in the 5-5.5" range, are thicker than average, and still look perfectly fine on 7-8" cocks, despite having less compared to their length.

Once you get to dicks in the 9" long range most people would consider them thick even at 6" around, yet that is under 70% ratio, but in absolute terms, yeah it is very thick.

Then once in a while some freakishly thick beastazoid springs to life out of a guy's pants, and it's long too. That's when the volumes get crazy, "absolute units."

 

[Greco-Roman]

So someone like John Holmes, a vintage guy, would essentially be able to stand up, even today with the modern big guys, in terms of volume? At 8.25 x 6.25 max? Always wondered.

I know little about professional porn in general really, and have little interest in it. I prefer the amateur stuff, or a little vintage but that’s only for laughs

But in terms of porn categories , do the biggest cocks end up in straight, professional porn? Or do the Gay, bisexual and Trans etc porn have contenders also?

 

[Clod]

So someone like John Holmes, a vintage guy, would essentially be able to stand up, even today with the modern big guys, in terms of volume? At 8.25 x 6.25 max? Always wondered.

I know little about professional porn in general really, and have little interest in it. I prefer the amateur stuff, or a little vintage but that’s only for laughs

But in terms of porn categories , do the biggest cocks end up in straight, professional porn? Or do the Gay, bisexual and Trans etc porn have contenders also?

Yup. Holmes is around that size & could totally stand with the biggest around from any era. He obviously would’ve looked even more massive with modern camera tricks.

This thread is dedicated to straight performers & I personally don’t watch gay porn, but I’m sure there are plenty of gay performers that are a similar size. Also, there’s FAR more overlap between those two markets than you think. Anton Harden, Danny D, Vlad, & some of the other biggest guys got their start in gay porn. Even Ol Johnny Wadd himself did gay porn.

 

[Greco-Roman]

Yup. Holmes is around that size & could totally stand with the biggest around from any era. He obviously would’ve looked even more massive with modern camera tricks.

This thread is dedicated to straight performers & I personally don’t watch gay porn, but I’m sure there are plenty of gay performers that are a similar size. Also, there’s FAR more overlap between those two markets than you think. Anton Harden, Danny D, Vlad, & some of the other biggest guys got their start in gay porn. Even Ol Johnny Wadd himself did gay porn.

You know I always wondered with Holmes, I’d see a lot of comments throughout the years of how he was big for his time (the vintage era) but had been surpassed and was nothing in this day and age. From bad sources and less knowledgeable minds in terms of penis size, obviously.

I suppose he’s the guy who started all the inflated double digit porn star inches so I get it! Or one of the founders of the 12-14 inch claims! Him or the Cuban Superman of Havana

But you and tinyprincess have confirmed what I thought visually. He’s was certainly a big guy in his prime. In terms of length, girth and volume. Great Knowledge.

and fair point, this is a straight porn thread. Best to ask in the gay/trans threads. And agreed on the overlap in terms of performers.

 

[SaintGirth]

The average dick is about 5.5" x 4.6" or a ratio of girth that is somewhere around 80-85% of it's length.

What data are you using? Most of the self measured studies show 5.1 NBP length as average. And that includes Western studies. I’m not saying they are definitive but curious how you get your number.

 

[Greco-Roman]

I would guess Billdunn is talking about bone pressed studies when he says 5.5 inches, I could be wrong though.

My guess is the real average is closer to 5-5.25 inches especially non bone pressed.

 

[BillDunn]

What data are you using? Most of the self measured studies show 5.1 NBP length as average. And that includes Western studies. I’m not saying they are definitive but curious how you get your number.

I would guess Billdunn is talking about bone pressed studies when he says 5.5 inches, I could be wrong though.

My guess is the real average is closer to 5-5.25 inches especially non bone pressed.

Yeah, I was going off of memory and it probably was one of the bone pressed studies. I'm not shocked at all if the NBP is more like 5.1", the main point I was making is that on average sized dicks the girth is much closer to the length, and that the trend usually is that as they move from average to large, they tend to get longer at a faster rate than girth. So that when you see an unusually long one that is also extra thick that it looks freakishly big in total volume, even compared to other large dicks.

 

[Ok-Passage-1079]

Yeah, I was going off of memory and it probably was one of the bone pressed studies. I'm not shocked at all if the NBP is more like 5.1", the main point I was making is that on average sized dicks the girth is much closer to the length, and that the trend usually is that as they move from average to large, they tend to get longer at a faster rate than girth. So that when you see an unusually long one that is also extra thick that it looks freakishly big in total volume, even compared to other large dicks.

That's true. And if you pay attention, even in porn there are not a lot of dudes with girthy dicks compared to long ones. 6.5 inches of girth is rare in porn, as for 7+ NBP in length, not as much. There are several guys with 7+ inches NBP with average girths of 4.75-5.

 

[Narz]

What data are you using? Most of the self measured studies show 5.1 NBP length as average. And that includes Western studies. I’m not saying they are definitive but curious how you get your number.

CalcSD has a list of all available medically measured studies: https://calcsd.info/study4.html

The global BP average is 5.5". Here's all the studies in that list grouped by location:

East

Hwnag: 4.61" (0.71) BPSFL
Choi: 4.61" (0.75) BPSFL
Son: 4.69" (0.51) BPEL
Chen: 5.08" (0.51) BPEL
Wu: 5.25" (0.44) BPSFL
Yoon: 5.28" (0.54) BPSFL
Wu & Yang: 5.32" (0.43) BPEL
Park: 5.33" (0.66) BPEL
Wu: 5.47" (0.44) BPSFL
Park: 5.54" (0.59) BPEL
Nguyen: 5.75" (0.55) BPSFL
Overall ~5.2" (0.55)

Middle East

Chen: 4.92" (0.55) BPSFL
Hussein: 4.96" (0.75) BPSFL
Kamel: 5.08" (0.75) BPSFL
Awwad: 5.35" (0.67) BPSFL
Chen: 5.35" (0.67) BPEL
Shalaby: 5.45" (0.53) BPSFL
Soylemez: 5.5" (0.62) BPSFL
Habous: 5.63" (0.79) BPEL
Habous: 5.65" (0.73) BPEL
Salama: 5.91" (0.71) BPEL
Salama: 5.92" (0.59) BPEL
Overall ~5.5" (0.69)

West

Acuna: 5.47" (0.67) BPEL (but counted it as erect enough to get measured at 70% hardness)
Khan: 5.63" (0.66) BPSFL
Schneider: 5.7" (0.78) BPEL
Gabrich: 5.7" (0.63) BPSFL
Stewart: 5.9" (0.67) BPSFL
Pereira: 5.96" (0.83) BPSFL
Wessels: 6.2" (1.03) BPEL
Barboza: 6.32" (0.64) BPSFL
Vasconcelous: 6.54" (0.67) BPSFL
Bondil: 6.59" (0.9) BPSFL
Overall: ~6.1 (0.78)

3 SD above average - which is about 1 in 1000 - would be 6.9" BP in the East, 7.6" BP in the Middle East and 8.4" BP in the West

For NBP the global average is 5" and split up by location it looks like this:

East

Son: 3.78" (0.47) NBPSFL
Son: 3.86" (0.31) NBPSFL
Park: 4.24" (0.76) NBPSFL
Son: 4.25" (0.51) NBPEL
Promodu: 4.28" (0.56) NBPSFL
Park: 4.68" (0.52) NBPEL
Motofumi: 4.81" (0.68) NBPSFL
Park: 4.84" (0.52) NBPSFL
Promodu: 5.09" (0.64) NBPEL
Wang & Li: 5.12" (0.51) NBPEL
Yoon: 5.28" (0.54) NBPEL
Overall ~4.5" (0.56)

Middle East

Mehraban: 4.56" (0.56) NBPSFL
Rad: 4.81" (0.96) NBPSFL
Habous: 4.93" (0.76) NBPEL
Salama: 5.07" (0.57) NBPEL
Hosseini: 5.12" (0.41) NBPSFL
Salama: 5.12" (0.67) NBPEL
Aslan: 5.39" (0.63) NBPSFL
Ali & Ali: 5.39" (0.63) NBPEL
Haliloglu: 5.59" (0.43) NBPSFL

West

Siminoski: 3.70" (0.55) NBPSFL (this is about the same size as the average flaccid penis, so they obviously did not stretch hard enough to get a reliable estimate of erect size)
Eisenberg: 4.70" (0.89) NBPSFL
Spyropoulos: 4.80" (0.67) NBPSFL
Wessels: 4.90" (1.07) NBPSFL
Ponchietti: 4.92" (0.98) NBPSFL
Eisenberg: 4.94" (0.80) NBPSFL
Wessels: 5.07" (1.15) NBPEL
Savoie: 5.31" (1.02) NBPSFL

NBP studies are a bit problematic due to different levels of fat pad. Measured BP the Middle East is below the West, but NBP it's the other way around.

 

[Nikeairs23]

Legit 7.5-8x7girth

 

[BillDunn]

Legit 7.5-8x7girth

First off, regardless of exact figures, clearly a very big dick. Where along the shaft is the 7" girth? Right in front of the balls? Or mid shaft?

I ask because @johanlo here packs an 8" x 7.3", and his 7.3" is mid shaft, and one of the thickest of any guy to ever post good quality photos being measured, and it looks a lot thicker at the mid shaft than that.

Often your penis will have a much greater girth right in front of your balls, because the measurement will include the largest part of your corpus spongiosum on the underside of the penis, which tapers way down once you get to the mid shaft. Also, many penises simply get slightly wider towards the base too.

 

[TinyPrincess]

Legit 7.5-8x7girth

It's a very large cock but do you honestly think it looks as thick as Shorty Mac (7" girth)??? Or even Shane Diesel (6.5" girth)???

I know you like to overestimate - I just don't understand why you don't consider the facts you already know. If I stand next to a 6'4 guy I would sound rather silly if I claimed to be taller. You somehow work differently.

Don't get me wrong - it's not your overestimation I wonder about - it's the apparent lack of comparison between facts you know and new information - between cocks you know the exact measurements of and new unknown cocks.

 

[Greco-Roman]

In terms of enhanced guys, and the cutting of the ligament surgery In particular… are there any porn stars that I could look at that have definitely had that type of surgery?

penuma is obvious, just given the penile shape it creates, a cone like cock , I struggle to detect these guys (ligament surgery) though. I’d guess they have quite floppy, hanging erections.

And how much does cutting the ligament give you in terms of length, on average?

 

[Clod]

In terms of enhanced guys, and the cutting of the ligament surgery In particular… are there any porn stars that I could look at that have definitely had that type of surgery?

penuma is obvious, just given the penile shape it creates, a cone like cock , I struggle to detect these guys (ligament surgery) though. I’d guess they have quite floppy, hanging erections.

And how much does cutting the ligament give you in terms of length, on average?

It gives you very little if any length to have your ligs cut. It’s mostly flaccid length gain. “Natural” PE like stretching or hanging has far better results for length (.25-1 inch with dedicated effort).

The only pornstar that I know of who might* have had his ligs cut is Julio Gomez, but it’s possible he’s just an overpumper.

 

[Greco-Roman]

It gives you very little if any length to have your ligs cut. It’s mostly flaccid length gain. “Natural” PE like stretching or hanging has far better results for length (.25-1 inch with dedicated effort).

The only pornstar that I know of who might* have had his ligs cut is Julio Gomez, but it’s possible he’s just an overpumper.

Great post as ever Clod. Love your input.

so interesting, and not a lot of growth in comparison to PE, or certainly in a similar ball park, without going under the knife. Doesn’t seem worth the surgery if that’s the case. Seems pretty rare if you can’t pin point the actual porn stars who have had the surgery, other than Julio and one or two maybes,

Does excessive pumping improve length in any way? I’ve always wondered. Thought it was solely girth enhancement, for the most part.

 

[JGUIDO]

The only pornstar that I know of who might* have had his ligs cut is Julio Gomez, but it’s possible he’s just an overpumper.

Yah Julio could definitely be one. Even with his great size he shows in scenes I dont think its necessarily "so heavy" that he it HAS to hang downwards even when he is "hard" because his dick has no density to it. So either his ligaments are weak as shit or have been cut IMO.

Does excessive pumping improve length in any way? I’ve always wondered. Thought it was solely girth enhancement, for the most part.

Pumping can increase size but slowly over time but mainly pumping can have therapeutic benefits. It can improve blood flow and penile health, including erection quality IF USED PROPERLY as in at lower pressure and for shorter amount of times.

I think what someone like Julio or Vlad did was go to higher pressure for longer amount of time. Check out subreddits like https://www.reddit.com/r/Pumping/ where some people do this "fetish" pumping. Others do the safer and healthy low pressure pumping there but you can find a lot of pics of people taking it too far IMO and probably causing injuries.

 

[BillDunn]

Yah Julio could definitely be one. Even with his great size he shows in scenes I dont think its necessarily "so heavy" that he it HAS to hang downwards even when he is "hard" because his dick has no density to it. So either his ligaments are weak as shit or have been cut IMO.

That is a good point about his dick not standing upright properly. I simply assumed it was the weight, but then now that you mention it, something has to be going on there. The not standing upright properly says there is something wrong with it. Only other thing I can think is some mild ED? Might he just be getting filmed at 90% hard to hang like that and give the illusion of more size? Whatever is causing it, it's strange. Are there more porn guys that point down when hard like his?

Think of the biggest dicks in terms of volume we have seen here that were verified, guys like @sdp and @johanlo or even an amateur porn guy like Johnny Dark, who's dicks are every bit as heavy or heavier, yet theirs can properly stand up like a healthy penis should.

 

[deleted5604191]

That is a good point about his dick not standing upright properly. I simply assumed it was the weight, but then now that you mention it, something has to be going on there. The not standing upright properly says there is something wrong with it. Only other thing I can think is some mild ED? Might he just be getting filmed at 90% hard to hang like that and give the illusion of more size? Whatever is causing it, it's strange. Are there more porn guys that point down when hard like his?

Think of the biggest dicks in terms of volume we have seen here that were verified, guys like @sdp and @johanlo or even an amateur porn guy like Johnny Dark, who's dicks are every bit as heavy or heavier, yet theirs can properly stand up like a healthy penis should.

I have a completely natural 7"+ girth mid shaft and my erection is like a rock. I've always wondered why, when I see larger guys in porn or on here, they don't seem to have a hard erection. Does pumping cause that possibly?

 

[BillDunn]

I have a completely natural 7"+ girth mid shaft and my erection is like a rock. I've always wondered why, when I see larger guys in porn or on here, they don't seem to have a hard erection. Does pumping cause that possibly?

At 7" mid shaft yours is every bit as heavy or heavier than the porn ones, and another good example of why their dick's weight is not a good excuse to be pointing down when hard.

I think anything that damages their penis, doing anything extreme with it, will cause those problems. Some guys in porn also use drugs to get it up for years and that can't be good either. Then, as has been brought up, ligament surgery, which just sounds like a terrible idea.

 

[JGUIDO]

That is a good point about his dick not standing upright properly. I simply assumed it was the weight, but then now that you mention it, something has to be going on there. The not standing upright properly says there is something wrong with it. Only other thing I can think is some mild ED? Might he just be getting filmed at 90% hard to hang like that and give the illusion of more size? Whatever is causing it, it's strange. Are there more porn guys that point down when hard like his?

Think of the biggest dicks in terms of volume we have seen here that were verified, guys like @sdp and @johanlo or even an amateur porn guy like Johnny Dark, who's dicks are every bit as heavy or heavier, yet theirs can properly stand up like a healthy penis should.

Even Jack Napier and Shane Diesel had some "lift" to theirs. It wasn't just straight down like Julio's. But theirs also weren't straight out.

Mandingo, Dredd, Danny D all had straight out erections except for curvatures.

It could also be a matter of "exit point"

Some dudes' dicks exit at a very low point from their groin if that makes sense.