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I'd have to agree with Faydreh, on this matter.
I am not fond of attempting to quantify my sexuality through percentages.
For the purpose of answering people's inquiries, I listed myself as 80/20.
I'll use the term as loosely as possible, and state that I am "Bi" and comfortable being so. I'm not afraid to admit that another man is "handsome" or "attractive", just as quickly as I am to say how sexy or gorgeous a woman is. These double-standards need to stop! If a woman says another woman is "gorgeous" it's generally accepted with a grain of salt in society, even if she happens to be "Bi" society is usually very receptive of women being with other women. Sad, that the same can not be said for men.

The moment any gay/bi tendencies and or thoughts, arise with "straight" men? all hell breaks loose. they feel uncomfortable even speaking upon the topic of homosexuality. (from what I've noticed within my circle of colleagues and friends) I know I can't speak for everyone. But, come on. Really?

I believe that we should stop "boxing" people in and categorizing people as "straight", Bi, Gay .. whatever you may be, you are who you are. Be comfortable with it. Labels are irrelevant to me.
 

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I mean not to insult anyone but I don't think anyone is 100t straight and I don't think anyone is 100% gay. . . .

I don't think there's any way to prove this conclusively, but I don't doubt that some - or plenty - of people are 100% gay or 100% straight. I think there is a broad spectrum between those 2 extremes and that is where things get murky for people. Labels don't work great for me, and I fall into the category of I tend to be attracted to people rather than genders. But, I respect what anyone wants to label themself, if they feel a label is necessary.
 

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I'm curious, as a gay male do you seek out porn where you can admire breasts?

No, I'm pretty gay. I think boobs are fun in the same way I think that giggles are fun.

I feel like there's a significant difference between being comfortable enough with whatever your orientation and gender identity are, to be able to admire the body/body parts of someone that falls outside your orientation... and seeking out porn that has this, or that, or the other thing.

Makes sense.

However, to me if a male who says they're straight likes big dick porn, etc... I think they're not quite at 100% straight,

And that's where I disagree with you. I wouldn't say you're wrong, Faydreh. In fact, I think we mostly agree, and I see that you're putting thought into the idea. I think we disagree with the thresholds we use to tip people from one category to the other.

Personally, I give people a certain amount of leeway when it comes to defining their orientations because the words we use and the social constructs we've created to define orientations seek to impose social structure on a pre-verbal, biological drive.

If you ask me, that enterprise is bound to fail.

So as long as we're talking about definitions that are hopelessly flawed, but which we still use to organize ourselves in society (albeit, in very important ways), I tend to give some leeway. Like straight porn? That's not gay. Like big-dick straight porn? It's still straight porn. Wanting to watch a chick fuck a guy who has a big dick? That's not gay. Want to watch a woman harness up a strap-on and fuck a guy with a big dick in the ass? That's straight porn. You're still straight. A pretty awesome kind of straight, but still straight. Watching mmf porn? Now you're pushing it, with the 100% straight business...

So, I think the OP can happily call himself 100% straight, even though I would happily support him if he chose to call himself 90% straight. I feel that people who would get all judgemental on him (which, to be clear, is not at all what I got from your post, Faydreh) are wasting their energy.

Sorry if I sounded preachy; I was trying not to. I just wanted to respond to your post with as much thought as you responded to mine.
 
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So as long as we're talking about definitions that are hopelessly flawed, but which we still use to organize ourselves in society (albeit, in very important ways), I tend to give some leeway. Like straight porn? That's not gay. Like big-dick straight porn? It's still straight porn. Wanting to watch a chick fuck a guy who has a big dick? That's not gay. Want to watch a woman harness up a strap-on and fuck a guy with a big dick in the ass? That's straight porn. You're still straight. A pretty awesome kind of straight, but still straight. Watching mmf porn? Now you're pushing it, with the 100% straight business...

I don't think strap-on/harness sex is gay at all.... but that's something I consider completely separate from actively seeking big dick porn as a male. I think the fairly common misconception that a male who enjoys ass play/prostate stimuli/etc must not be straight is annoying. I personally know a fair few men who are secure in their masculinity/sexuality, in that they can agree a man is attractive, but they're only sexually interested in women, who like being pegged. I should know, cause I got 'em into ass play :wink:

In any case, none of it really matters what labels may or may not be applied to a person. I have my own opinion of what is what, but so long as a person is happy with themselves, and is honest with others about what they want sexually, nobody else's opinion fucking matters. :biggrin1:
 

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I think it's entirely reasonable for a guy to appreciate that another guy is really attractive or has a huge cock, without wanting it inside them

I know you were just using an example, but plenty of gay men don't want a cock in them or to penetrate another guy. It's certainly not a defining characteristic of being homosexual.

Where exactly does the concern about homosexuality come from? I mean, if you can appreciate the sexual organs of men, then you appreciate or exhibit some homosexuality. Fine and dandy. Homo=same. Homosexuality isn't necessarily limited to attraction to the same sex; it can be any interest in, or appreciation of, sexual practices or sexual organs of your own sex.

That interest doesn't make one gay or oriented toward men. On the other hand, there's more to straight guys being interested in cocks than there is gay men being interested in pussies or breasts... I'm hard pressed to imagine many (any) gay men consciously seeking out web forums devoted to specific female genitalia.

I guess I'm saying that probably every guy here exhibits some homosexuality; it's normal and healthy, because you have the same equipment. But it doesn't necessarily mean you identify as gay at all.
 

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Consider it done. Dutch men have some of the finest cocks on this planet and you do them proud.
Thank you! I must admit I was not fishing for compliments.

Thanks to all contributers so far in this thread. Some great points made.
 

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I know you were just using an example, but plenty of gay men don't want a cock in them or to penetrate another guy. It's certainly not a defining characteristic of being homosexual.

Sorry, gymfresh - I was flippantly using a crude stereotype to make my point. You are absolutely right about the use of the word homosexual, which a bit of a misnomer. Homophilia would probably be a better word to describe an attraction to same sex relationships.

Certainly appreciating another guy's package doesn't amount to a sexual or romantic emotional attraction to men. In the same way, when I've been horse riding, there's always some guy who comments on the size of the horses' appendages - that doesn't mean he has a mild tendency to bestiality, though.

We don't get all hung up about commenting when a guy has really good pecs or biceps or legs...
 

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Read a lot of times already that it is unbelievable for a 100% straight guy to look at other men's dicks. Like we all do here.

I however believe a man can be 100% straight, but still not be homophobic. I consider myself 100% straight because I don't feel the urge to have sex with a man. I even don't want to touch another man's manmeat.

I however do like to compare to other man. I do like to see big dick (straight) porn. I am in awe when I see some penises out there. I do like to get compliments, also from men.

Is it right for me to chose 100% straight? Discuss!

And no flaming/ trolling please ..

No, you´re not gay:). You just like to compare your manhood to other men´s. Besides, I think you like to get the confirmation from other guys, that your penis isn´t small and you like to hear when other men tell you that.

This absolutely doesn´t make you gay:).
 

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I don't believe in orientation labels at all. I think that people like people they like. That is to say, there may or may not be some man out there who possess the right dimensions or personality traits to arouse a man who identifies himself as "100% straight", and similar people for the 100% gay men, lesbian women, and straight women. I don't think sexuality is something that needs to be limited by something as trivial as categories. I only call myself pansexual because, if I absolutely must be placed into a category, that is the closest label that fits.
 

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It seems like its in human behavior to want to label people or classify them into a group. In fact "group think" sometimes even causes it. An example is some of the militant gay groups out there that want to demonstrate that they represent a larger percentage of society by catorgorizing anyone who is bi, or even had or thought about having a same sex experience as absolutely gay. On the other side of the scale you can find people who view being gay as some sort of mental deficiency. Of course neither is correct.

Because these stereotypes exist and flourish in the above mentioned extremes, it causes people to be less open about their sexuality which really can go through stages in someones life. As a physician I have often thought that many personality traits are often formed by both environment and experiences that have either a negative or positive effect on one's psyche. Without getting too deep, I believe that sexual orientation is something that one can either be born with or learned. In the learned case I would submit and most will agree that the sexual drive in a male is among if not the most potent desire that one is urged to act on in their life. When you begin to combine thoughts, images, scenarios that add to the pleasure of thinking about sex, which is something we do far, far more than actually having it. Along the way, males in particular "collect" a series of fantasies that they find pleasurable to think about but as time goes on that collection gets expanded and experimentation begins to occur first in the mind. That "experimentation" could really be anything including a same sex encounter. These "pleasure thoughts" then get intertwined with our hard wired sexual urges and a metamorphisis occurs where one is open to acting on those desires, and to the extent they do, presto you have a bisexual male. Something that our immense brain capacity is able to create and is neither a good or bad thing, but an example of how our brain power can overcome or influence set biological realities.

So what does all this gobble-guck mean? I dunno...lol. I think it means that one can be what one creates in their own mind. I believe that there are absolutely 100% gay people and absolutely 100% straight people. For those not in these groups I believe that one can be truly bi, and have equal experiences with both sexes. I also believe that it can be situational, either at certain times or certain conditions outside of which one is completely gay or straight.

So the problem is not what you think about what you are. The problem is that society fails to recognize that humans are so complex, so beyond the animal kingdom that we have the mental capacity to change or temporarily redirect the biological reality of why the different sexes exist in the first place which has only one reason and its not sex, its procreation of the species. In fact recreational sex, that sex that is not to procreate, is a uniquely human endeavor that we use to satisfy something more in our minds, more than just a physical urge. But often that physical urge is enough for us to act in poor judgement (unsafe sex, promiscuity, sexual addiction, inappropriate public behavior, etc) which can cause much heartache in our lives.

So a very long answer to a short question I know, but the point I was trying to make is that labels are useless and are things that others want to put on you. Don't let them.
 
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