It's 100% this. Taylor and many other gays are still clinging to this idea that they're "passing" or something.
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It's 100% this. Taylor and many other gays are still clinging to this idea that they're "passing" or something.
Do you not think that he is this notion of straight passing? Until he says "my husband" or "I love sucking cock and blowing my load up my husband's butt doggy style" any regular person in the street isn't going to "suspect" he's gay.
And yes I realise all this language is predicated on gay = bad - that's not my point - society still sees MSM as different and it's a minority - THUS if you met Taylor in a meeting suited and booted as his corporate fin bro self in that setting talking about his old frat, and dropping "ex girlfriend" into a sentence or whatever sport he used to do... you wouldn't think he was gay. It's a far larger questions WHY he might feel he should do that in some settings - and one we can't expect an individual to take on that fight for equality when he's in a meeting trying to win work.
Similarly I'm not saying he's claiming to be straight in such meetings as a complete facade - he wins the work because he has a following of, mostly, gay men. But brands may be more comfortable with gay but not too gay.
Who was it that said Obama was black but not too black or the question was asked is he "black enough"?
Don't we all play characters all the time - in work you don't go on about your popper smashing, hole filling pride marching flag waving self - and when you're on your pride parade you don't talk about your investment portfolio being battered by Trump trade wars, or at a wedding you dial it down to avoid scene stealing with your amazing yesssssss qweeeeeeen self or at a dinner party of 2-3 degree connections. We all self regulate.
We're only ourself with our closest friends and most intimate relations.
I don't see why we have a double standard for Taylor (or others, Cushing, Del Moro etc.) for fitting into an environment.
AND YES we followers ARE another environment - an environment of brand deals and sponsorship and advertising - we're not his closest friends or intimate relations. We get to see what he chooses to share. Hopefully that's not a total fabrication as I like this character.
This is the most reasonable take I’ve seen tbh.
I can see why people might think he tries to pass at a purely visual level, but like all of his sponsorships are always like “look at my hotel room I share with my husband!” There is literally zero way to pass that when his whole marketing identity is openly gay?
Also I feel like people forget he is literally a model? Like he has done professional modeling. Being pretty, getting Botox, etc is I assume a main revenue stream for him… why *wouldn’t* he have a skincare routine and get Botox? It’s like a teacher doing yearly professional development credits or something haha
I genuinely do not get why people are pressed about him - if you don’t want the stuff he’s selling don’t buy it? If you are mad he makes money based on being hot, don’t look at him?
oh please.. they have been together for like what, 8 years? Like they even have sex anymore.
Yeah I don't think he's denying he's gay in the sponsorships but it's that "version" of gay that gets him the sponsorships - the vendors want to be LGBT aligned but a particular flavour LGBT. The wholesome version of LGBT, not the leather chaps wearing, drag queen story time and circuit party bathhouse version of LGBT.
And we can all debate whether "pandering" to an almost heteronormative accepting vision of "appropriate" LGBT lifestyle is right or wrong but that's the version he's selling and like I said, assuming it's not all a facade, that's the version he is: genetically blessed, all american, white, middle class, corn fed, hard working man anyone could take home to mom. I'm not just fanboying I'm not saying he won't/doesn't have flaws, short comings, failings - he will, and he's spoke about some mental health things, in a limited fashion relationship stuff with Jeff and struggles coming out or being annoyingly boring if that's your view.
I really want to be clear all that is not to take away the other parts of our community in any way at all. It's just that's not the commercially successful seam he's chosen to exploit and those other segments are for others to capitalise on. Again in my view they're not acting dishonestly that really is who they are or pretty close to that public persona - how did he put it in that interview above - TV binge watching, dinner party, "couch and a movie gays".
I still think if they opened and only fans they could retire in one month - but opening that door 1) you really get that isn't their vibe 2) shuts a lot of other doors. 1*) or that vibe won't be commercially successful for them with their brand associations.
You speak the truth dude!oh please.. they have been together for like what, 8 years? Like they even have sex anymore.
What was the picture some time ago from a story captioned "how do you keep the spark alive in your marriage" and he's stood under a BJ store sign. 8 years in it's satisfying enough - then we've got tomatoes and tulips to attend to.
Ok yes I see what you mean - I do think he and Jeff are very much riding the wholesome Americana gay (no OF/sexualization) vibe. It’s probably the most lucrative choice in the long term, because an OF shelf life isn’t going to last more than 10 years. And while they might make a ton during that time, it severely limits future employment. I follow John Whaite and he lost sponsors when he went to OF - really sad. I watched their most recent YT and was laughing at them in the grocery store - they seem very financial-minded. So pissed about the fruit prices lol. Taylor is marketing savvy enough to post thirst traps and tease, but wouldn’t go full OF.
I also feel like the vibe I read from the personas were shown on social media is that Taylor is pretty insecure/uncomfortable/shy and wouldn’t necessarily enjoy doing OF. It’s also like probably very uncomfortable if you’re a known figure who has family following you on social media and then they see posts that you’re starting an OF. Like maybe if he wasn’t already known just a hot guy with a regular job and could hide it from family/judgy friends. Like I feel like I would 100% sell feet pics but only if it was a secret bahaha
And I make zero judgements on those that do OF and the reality is Andrew the eye guy had a down low OF and he had to have conversations in work about it and it's kept hidden, I'm sure Zach of Zach & B has mentioned people sending his previous adult content to his family for some reason, the pilot guy from two doodles had the same. Can't be put back.
I mean fair. Came here for eye candy and got sucked into discourse like a chump
Eye candy had been slow going recently but then this week - some nice holiday stuff with lots of skin and towels action.I mean fair. Came here for eye candy and got sucked into discourse like a chump
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the deck they did have to rebuild. it looks like it's trex or similar
the deck they did have to rebuild. it looks like it's trex or similar
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