The Real Average

[Nekoman]

I can relate to being average size and yet being said to be small. However, I was on the low side of volume average whereas you are on the high side of volume average (I'm assuming here that you know how to properly measure, many guys don't or won't). Even though you aren't wanting statistics, one that must be considered when talking about partners is the poll which indicated in a 2 to 1 ratio that guys with larger penises tend to have more hookups. Plus, keep in mind that guys who are bigger are probably more prone to flaunt it and that will shew what you see at least some. Also, there is the possibilty that your perception has been skewed by what has been said to you ("small"). In other words, you may have a mental scar distorting your perception just like a scratch on a lens interferes with visual clarity. This site can also have an affect, but all one has to do is visit the site Measurection to see that there is another side to what is presented at LPSG.

I've checked of the Measurection site and it's a whole lot less fun than LPSG. Whatever you say about the folks here there's a ton of spirit of liviliness going on.

Maybe I am colored by what you suggest -- I think we're all colored by our experiences -- it's unavoidable without pure science.

Anyway, thanks for the thoughfuol post.

 

[D_Keziah Binbanger]

Ok, this post is totally subjective opinion, no scientific surveys here.

I believe no matter what any Kinsey survey or any sexologist maintains, that the real average penis size is not 4.5 to 6 inches long. The real average length is more like 6 - 6.5 inches long.

I believe anything under 6, say 5.75 is actually small.
Anything over 6.5 is large.

What I've seen -- in photos, videos and in real life -- most people are bigger than me. If I was really average, like the stats maintain, there should be just as many smaller than me, as bigger that me. And that's just not the case. Many more are bigger than smaller.

I disagree. 5.75 isn't small, it is average. I think that anyone who is between 5.5 and 6.5 is average. Maybe the people you know only have big penises?
If remember well, I read a study where they said that the low average was 5.5" and the high average was 6.5". And that 90% of men had a penis between 5" and 7". It was measured on 300 men in america. But how much credit can we give to a study: the subjects willing to participate are not usually the guys with small dicks.

 

[Gideon]

Anyone who thinks personal observation and anecdotal evidence trumps good science is pretty dumb.

 

[Tolka]

Would you agree that average is about: 5,4-5,5 NBP (5,9-6 BP) x 4,8 girth (mid-shaft)?

 

[D_Prudence_Admonition_Drightits]

Hey superlarge- you other guys, can you help this guy out? Poor thing has been looking for this answer since yesterday.

Would you agree that average is about: 5,4-5,5 NBP (5,9-6 BP) x 4,8 girth (mid-shaft)?

 

[Darpon]

You will mostly only see large penises.

Bigger guys like to show off. Bigger guys seem FAR more common because they're more open about it.

 

[D_Prudence_Admonition_Drightits]

You know- I have noticed that. When I was in college the guys that were eager to show off their cocks were those with large penises.
Sometimes they were also the dick heads too.

You will mostly only see large penises.

Bigger guys like to show off. Bigger guys seem FAR more common because they're more open about it.

 

[Steamboy]

You will mostly only see large penises.

Bigger guys like to show off. Bigger guys seem FAR more common because they're more open about it.

Correct. This one is a no brainer.

Put more scientifically, it means that it is impossible to use one's day to day experience as a truly random sample. There are going to be variables (like comfort level in showing the goodies given media driven expectations of what such goodies should like) which will skew the randomness of the day to day experience.

I mean, would you use what you saw in porno films as a good basis for what the everyman is packing? No.

 

[D_Keziah Binbanger]

Steamboym you're so right. This guy's basis is on experience. But it's common knowledge that most of the men who believes they have a small penis are less likely to be seen nude in public. It's just the same as the guys who're coming here and get depressed because everyone is bigger than them: it's a Large Penis Support Group! What do they expect!

 

[D_Ollyvalle Treegirth]

disagree also-- remember the avg cock on THIS site is bound to be way above avg.
I'm 7" (not particularly big on this site) but I am bigger than most guys Ive fooled around with.

 

[perthjames]

The other issue with visual comparison is the angle upon which you're looking at your own and others from. Reproduced from answers.com, here's some info about the famous anecdote about the authors F Scott Fitzgerald and Ernest Hemingway....

"FSF was also a little insecure about his manhood, as he drunkenly verbalized one night in a Paris bistro men's room, which probably shocked Hem. But Hem pulled it together. They were taking a piss and FSF was whining about how small his penis was, among other things, and Hem just looked at him and said, "Of course it looks small, dumbass, you're looking down on it. They all look small from that angle. You worry too much."

 

[HyperHulk]

I have no sources other than my own eyes, my own experience. There's no referencing personal opinion.

I'm interested in hearing other people's opinions based on personal experience only. If you disagree that's cool, agree, that's cool too.

Just back up opinion with experience.

I'm amazed at your willingness to dismiss scientific studies based on large samples of actual measured penises and substitute your own personal experience of viewing pictures online to determine what's real. That's akin to people who insist the world is flat because it happens to look that way when you look across the horizon. Pictures radically distort size. Think for example of many of the male stars you see on tv, try to guess their actual height. Most look much taller than they actually are. Also, as you noted, logically people with bigger penises are more apt to post their pictures because they feel more confident in doing so. What sites are you going to where you are seeing tons of erect "average" penises?

You want a true test, go out and meet guys in person and put your cock next to theirs--meet, say 100 and record your results. Then come back and let us know what you find. Whatever you find will no doubt be more accurate than looking at pictures online.

The earth, by the way, is round. You're just going to have to trust the experts sometimes.:biggrin1:

 

[B_superlarge]

I'm amazed at your willingness to dismiss scientific studies based on larges samples of actual measured penises and substitute your own personal experience of viewing pictures online to determine what's real. That's akin to people who insist the world is flat because it happens to look that way when you look across the horizon. Pictures radically distort size. Think for example of many of the male stars you see on tv, try to guess their actual height. Most look much taller than they actually are. Also, as you noted, logically people with bigger penises are more apt to post their pictures because they feel more confident in doing so. What sites are you going to where you are seeing tons of erect "average" penises?

You want a true test, go out and meet guys in person and put your cock next to theirs--meet, say 100 and record your results. Then come back and let us know what you find. Whatever you find will no doubt be more accurate than looking at pictures online.

The earth, by the way, is round. You're just going to have to trust the experts sometimes.:biggrin1:

Thank god, a good post. There have been some reasonable ones in this thread.

 

[B_superlarge]

Hey superlarge- you other guys, can you help this guy out? Poor thing has been looking for this answer since yesterday.

Tolka,

Generally speaking, from what is published, that is about right. The problem is the datas hardly include black guys, and even though there is some data involving Asian men they are excluded. So it's not definitive.

 

[transformer_99]

Like anything with data, the average keeps moving with the introduction of new specimens and their measurements. Statistics only imply with a degree/percentage of a confidence interval what any value is. What other variables are involved, age, body type, smoker/non-smoker that aren't even factored into a question like this. A range for an average is equally worthless too. 5.5-7 inches, that's +/- 3/4 of an inch from the midpoint of that range. So the 5.75" specimen is supposed to feel more secure/insecure as considered average when his competition brings 6.25 to the mating competition ? Use what you have at any given point in time and maximize your pleasure is the best advices I can offer. No wonder men and women alike are terrified when required to assess penis dimensions as adequate, perfect and so on. I guess it's like working on your car, you grab a wrench & socket and hope you got the right one that gets the job done ? Like shopping for clothes, hope you get the pants that fit right the first time. Even shopping for shoes, get a pair that fits as nobody likes to lace up 3 or 4 shoes to find they are too sloppy or tight ? It's all about comfort ?

 

[Tolka]

But what about stats that I gave, would you agree that their are about average?

 

[Aplus]

Ok, this post is totally subjective opinion, no scientific surveys here.

I believe no matter what any Kinsey survey or any sexologist maintains, that the real average penis size is not 4.5 to 6 inches long. The real average length is more like 6 - 6.5 inches long.

I believe anything under 6, say 5.75 is actually small.
Anything over 6.5 is large.

I'm basing this on personal observation alone.
Me, I am really about 5.75 - 6 inches -- on a good day. So when I look at photos, like most guys, I'm comparing his stuff to mine.

What I've seen -- in photos, videos and in real life -- most people are bigger than me. If I was really average, like the stats maintain, there should be just as many smaller than me, as bigger that me. And that's just not the case. Many more are bigger than smaller.

Even accounting for the argument -- guys with big dicks like to show them off more than small guys. And the idea that we see many more big guys because they go into porn just doesn't hold. I've seen my share of hard-ons outside of cash-for-sex pix -- and -- most guys are not 4 - 5.5. Most guys are 6".

The guys bigger than me, say over 6", far outweigh those smaller than me, at say, 5.5."

Anyone agree? Or disagree? I want to hear from first hand observations. No "scientific" stats, like average equals 3.5 - 6.5. Those figures are meaningless.

I'm sure there's lot of folks here, men and women who can speak to this from personal experience.

I think most of us tend us to want to judge things from either upclose personal experience or visual sight. I'll take personal experience over visible guessing anytime because it tends to be less distorted. Pictures and film can tend to get distorted by angles and especially distance. A 7-8 inch dick might look huge upclose, but not as impressive from a distance of 5-10 feet. From a porn or film perspective, I've especially found tha angles and distance can distort or exaggerate true size. Add a few more guys in the scene, and you might find your perceptions to have been way off. Because not only does angle and distance distort size, but girth can be, and often is the biggest distorter of size, espcially when viewed/judged against length.

Just looking at the two pics in your gallery. From my visual perspective, even soft or semi, your dick doesn't look small and cetainly doesn't look like it'd be small totally erect. Our penis stats are quite comparable based on the data you gave, and yet you look bigger soft than me, and look like you'd be bigger erect. Could be my perception is distorted and probably is, but thats what I see or at least thought I saw based on my visual interpretation. And I've practiced/obsessed with these kind of visual comparisons years ago. I've found my visual interprations generally off or way-off once I gotten upclose and personally. Most men and women claim to be able to accurately judge and interpret penis size on mere sight, but I've seen little proof that they actually can when put to the test.

 

[B_andyo]

The average of lpsg is around 6.9-7.2 inches long and about 5.4-5.6 inches around. I did some surveys a few months back.. to lazy to bring it back right now.

 

[B_andyo]

ok ok here it is...

http://www.lpsg.org/50435-pick-your-length-don-t.html More than 38% say less than 7 inches in lpsg, I trick them )

http://www.lpsg.org/50860-real-penis-size-poll.html ( i also trick them, and more than 36% say they were less than 7 inches.

http://www.lpsg.org/50865-size-poll.html ( 34% say they were less than 7 inches)


Girth poll
http://www.lpsg.org/50524-pick-your-girth.html



So technically, i can predict that in lpsg about 40% of users have less than 7 inch penises. Only 2-3 percent goes over 9 inches and the majority are from 7-8 inches about 50% of lpsg member.. And over 8 inches about 7%

 

[B_superlarge]

Tolka,

See my post several posts up. It's not definitive, plus it can be relative to a partner's experiences as to what they perceive as average. But since you keep asking, to go into more detail, if one includes the Asian studies, and the additional research I've done - comparing databases of flaccid sizes vs erect sizes and in comparing how deep mandingo can go into black women vs white women, it appears to me that generally speaking Asian men average to be approximately 4.5 L nbp x 4.5 G, white men approximately 5.5 L nbp x 4.8 G, and black men approximately 6.5 L nbp x 5.1 G.