Why does average seem so small?

Nowhere did I say it wasn't just my opinion or that it wasn't just anecdotal. (My quote - I don't have the personal experience myself but I tend to believe it). I may very well be wrong - who knows, I probably am - those are just my opinions & experiences, and in my mind the 'average' given is bs. Nobody else has to believe that, and I'm certainly not offended that you don't.

Chill dude.

The bottom line is you disregarded proven medical evidence in favor of own irrelevant opinions and guesses. I'm pretty sure a cumulative gathering of studies done on the matter by professionals has more expertise than a few of your buddies.
 
PS: And I do believe the estimations of my ex & my current girlfriend. My ex, particularly, was interested in dick size because she preferred larger. My current gf had no interest in lying to me about her previous experiences & she's not a SQ, so I believe her. They could still be anomalies in terms of size of guys they've slept with, but the body of evidence I've been exposed to in life suggests to me that they are not.

As a last point: I'd be the happiest guy on this forum if it's ever proved beyond doubt that 5.16 (or even 5.5-6) really is stone cold average. I've got nothing to gain from suggesting that it isn't.

Fine, lol, believe whatever you want, but that's nonsense to do so. Especially abandoning medical studies in favor of random opinions of friends.

Do your friends whip out a ruler and measure every penis they see with a standardized method? No, that's ridiculous.

You can believe whatever you want, but don't pronounce it as somehow holding more merit than what the scientific community states.
 
The bottom line is you disregarded proven medical evidence in favor of own irrelevant opinions and guesses. I'm pretty sure a cumulative gathering of studies done on the matter by professionals has more expertise than a few of your buddies.

Right, so I'm not allowed to give an opinion on a forum if it's solid medical fact? Interesting.
 
The bottom line is you disregarded proven medical evidence in favor of own irrelevant opinions and guesses. I'm pretty sure a cumulative gathering of studies done on the matter by professionals has more expertise than a few of your buddies.

:D I just want to point out that there are so many flaws those studies that they should be taken more as an idea to what the average COULD be than the law of what the actually is.


then there is another point I want to make. How accurate is that when it comes to the dating scene. Are the guys out there that are fucking multiple chicks routinely more likely to be bigger than average? Are the guys that are just more sexually active and have had more partners bigger than average? If they are.. then wouldn't this mean that in the dating scene you are actually more likely to encounter someone larger than average if you have multiple partners?


It's like basketball. Average human height means jack squat if the majority of the players are above average height. The dating game could be the same way.


I guess the scientists could be more accurate. Then again they may be less accurate since they weren't in the dating scene. Too bad their data doesn't cover that.


As others have suggested. The bigger dicked dudes are more likely to show off their dicks online. Why wouldn't they more likely be willing to put themselves out there and chase women than their smaller dick counterparts? After all it's one less thing to be insecure about and all it does is give them more confidence (takes less away). We all know women love men with confidence.


chew it over, digest it, shit out some thoughts on the subject :)

Play nice and remember we are just talking about floppy spongey meatsicles. No need to be so srs.
 
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Right, so I'm not allowed to give an opinion on a forum if it's solid medical fact? Interesting.

Go ahead, but don't expect it to be taken seriously or go without valid criticism. Especially if you're going to call a legitimate study bullshit then proceed to cite opinions and guesses that your friends told you that mean nothing.

The study was a combination of 20 different sub-studies and consisted of over 15,000 men, so I'd be inclined to believe it's more on point than any individual opinions.
 
:D I just want to point out that there are so many flaws those studies that they should be taken more as an idea to what the average COULD be than the law of what the actually is.


then there is another point I want to make. How accurate is that when it comes to the dating scene. Are the guys out there that are fucking multiple chicks routinely more likely to be bigger than average? Are the guys that are just more sexually active and have had more partners bigger than average? If they are.. then wouldn't this mean that in the dating scene you are actually more likely to encounter someone larger than average if you have multiple partners?


It's like basketball. Average human height means jack squat if the majority of the players are above average height. The dating game could be the same way.


I guess the scientists could be more accurate. Then again they may be less accurate since they weren't in the dating scene. Too bad their data doesn't cover that.


As others have suggested. The bigger dicked dudes are more likely to show off their dicks online. Why wouldn't they more likely be willing to put themselves out there and chase women than their smaller dick counterparts? After all it's one less thing to be insecure about and all it does is give them more confidence (takes less away). We all know women love men with confidence.


chew it over, digest it, shit out some thoughts on the subject :)

Play nice and remember we are just talking about floppy spongey meatsicles. No need to be so srs.

I'm not even certain what you're trying to say. Promiscuity has nothing to do with studying the average.

Yes, the studies are never perfect, and there will always be minor flaws, but they're superior to any one person's anecdotal or conjectural opinion.
 
I'm not even certain what you're trying to say. Promiscuity has nothing to do with studying the average.

Yes, the studies are never perfect, and there will always be minor flaws, but they're superior to any one person's anecdotal or conjectural opinion.
Promiscuity has everything to do with average. If larger than average are much more proactive in bedding women than their smaller counterparts.. do you know what that means? You may actually be more likely to run into a larger than average man in the dating scene if you have multiple partners


No different than professional basketball. The human average for men is about 5'8... you aren't going to find very many men remotely near 5'8. Why so? The reason being not very many men near average or below average participate. The dating scene is the exact same but to a lesser extent.

So you argument about scientific averages don't hold much value if the average dudes fail to show up to the party. :|

Sadly we are talking about dicks and not fingers. Not many people are going to be insecure about fingers thus self removing themselves from the game. Dicks... are another story.
 
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The issue is you aren't accounting the variables. Just because there is more of something doesn't automatically mean you have a higher chance to encounter it. There may be many variables at play that makes it so.


Another variable missed is the motives of the individuals volunteering for that study.

Was it out of insecurity
was it pure curiosity
did size factor in whether or not they cared.
did the tiny guys shy away
did the huge guys give no fucks


Hard to tell. All you have is a shitty attempt at determining an average. That's why I said it should be taken as an Idea, not as hard concrete fact. It's too easy to poke holes in it, it's very weak. Just because it's the best we have doesn't make it better than horseshit, just sayin. It's a start.... a long ways to go though
 
The argument has nothing to do with 'who gets around more'. That's an entirely different issue and completely unrelated to the biological average of a human penis.

Studies aren't perfect, but they're far more reliable than any random opinion you'll find here.
 
Ok, so I'm at the exact so-called world average of 5.16 inches. That's bs, let me say at the outset. I've always been smallest flaccid - in school, college, military & sports teams. In school, there was a friend with a microdick and he was the only one smaller than me. Studies show the average guy grows at 1.6 inches from flaccid to erect, and that most guys fall within this margin. I believe that.

I've had a handful of girlfriends, two of which have shared with me the fact that I was 'clearly' the smallest they were with. One had more than 15 partners! They didn't cruelly volunteer this information - I sought it out from morbid curiosity.

5.1 - even 5-6 isn't average, that's bs. It's below average. Between my two open & honest female partners and a close gay friend, Caucasian average rests between 6-7 inches, with more guys over 7 than under 6. I don't have the personal experience myself - but I tend to believe it.

If the most guys are over 7, it would be hard for the average to be 6 - 7.
 
If the most guys are over 7, it would be hard for the average to be 6 - 7.

Hmm... Wasn't saying 'most guys are over 7'. If you read my post correctly, you'd see that I said there were more guys over 7 than under 6, and we are talking about my anecdotal evidence. I don't dispute that everybody else on this site, and all medical researchers - whatever that might mean - are entitled to their opinion. I'm just saying MY reading of the situation, based on the people I've met & spoken to is that average is likely to be around 6-7 for Caucasians rather than 5-6. Does that even matter? It does to my current girl, who says every inch bigger counts. But it might not matter to the rest of the female population.

I might add that the only people I'd expect to kick back against my opinion - which I've blatantly said is MY opinion only - are those who are 5-6 inches and who for some reason paranoid that they may actually be below average. I know - because I'm one of them.
 
Go ahead, but don't expect it to be taken seriously or go without valid criticism. Especially if you're going to call a legitimate study bullshit then proceed to cite opinions and guesses that your friends told you that mean nothing.

The study was a combination of 20 different sub-studies and consisted of over 15,000 men, so I'd be inclined to believe it's more on point than any individual opinions.

I'm not asking you to believe me as I really don't give a flying fig what you think. But the fact that you are so riled speaks volumes.

Oh, and now I get it... You're the troll from that other thread about size. You're having fun. I've been punk'd :cool:

Again...
 
Go to sites like measuremycock.com and you'll see most when measured correctly are aroun 5 1/2 or so. I'm sure the really small
Guys are too ashamed to get measured so I'm betting on 5 - 5 1/2 to be the norm.
 
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I'm not asking you to believe me as I really don't give a flying fig what you think. But the fact that you are so riled speaks volumes.

Oh, and now I get it... You're the troll from that other thread about size. You're having fun. I've been punk'd :cool:

Again...

I'm not "riled up". I'm simply pointing out the stupidity in believing your friends estimates over proven science.

But do whatever you want.
 
Go to sites like measuremycock.com and you'll see most when measured correctly are aroun 5 1/2 or so. I'm sure the really small
Guys are too ashamed to get measured so I'm betting on 5 - 5 1/2 to be the norm.

I'm sure you're probably right Spoiler. Not arguing your point. Just saying my experiences are different. Of course, everybody might disagree, that's fine, but as I'm not a troll & am being honest, I'm simply stating what I know. A couple of powerful 'facts' in my life have convinced me of this:

a. Flaccid, I'm noticeably smaller than both my brothers, under all weather conditions.

b. In the military, where I spent 3 months in close confinement with 30+ guys, the standing joke was that I bunked next to the largest flaccid guy as I was the smallest. Granted, flaccid size ranges drastically, but you'd expect a pretty accurate impression to form over 3 months among guys, who probably look at dicks more than women do!

c. My first serious girlfriend was a cock lover who had slept with 15+ guys by her mid-twenties. Obviously my size didn't bother her that much but we had honest conversations (because my insecurity leads to broaching a subject rather than shying away from it, and no, I'm not into SPH). She told me at 5.1in, I was the smallest she'd been with, and also the smallest she'd seen flaccid, although she insisted it didn't matter. And she said it was notably smaller, as in the other guys were all just below the 6 mark, and then up from there with a few being huge & she felt the difference. I have no reason to believe she'd lie to me. The information was offered at my request, not volunteered, & it was given sensitively, not in a gleeful or boastful way.

c. My current long-term gf & I had the chat several years into our relationship. All her exes were bigger, one of them was 'huge' & she said she enjoyed him most because he was the biggest. She said from her estimations (and she's better than many girls at measurement, it's part of her career!), I was the only one was very obviously under 5.5 - she thought I was less than 5 because I only get to 5 when I'm rock hard. This info affected me badly - I hadn't expected the 'bigger is better' bit - and she immediately softened the story, but I'm more at peace with it now. Don't ask if you don't want to know!

d. Among my group of friends, who have played sports and seen each other naked, I'm the smallest flaccid. That's also a standing joke, but not a nasty one. Again, I concede flaccid sizes vary a lot & there are growers & showers, but these are guys I've known for more than 20 years. A couple of them are literally massive flaccid (although, interestingly, it hasn't necessarily 'won' them more or prettier girls).

Those are the 'facts' (admittedly just my anecdotes) that have led me to believe what I believe. Again, I concede that that may very well probably be wrong, and medical studies show that it probably is. But I can't just turn a blind-eye to my life experiences & say it never happened & that I should follow the 'average' figure because everybody else does.

Lastly, let me tell you, that if the average really is 5.1 inches, I'd be the happiest guy here! I just personally don't believe that it is, and that average is 6 or slightly upwards of.
 
The argument has nothing to do with 'who gets around more'. That's an entirely different issue and completely unrelated to the biological average of a human penis.

Studies aren't perfect, but they're far more reliable than any random opinion you'll find here.
I guess if in my experience I've seen more above average porn stars it must also be bs since it doesn't align with the biological average of your very concrete impenetrable studies. Gee I guess running into a huge dick is a once or twice in a life time event. How the women that should ever have such an encounter should cherish that moment and relish in the glory of the almighty dick. Pray to the internet gods for sending them a miracle. I just don't know what I was thinking, of course there aren't millions upon millions of men that are near crippled about their insecurity of their penis. These poor women being swarmed with hyper confident average sized men.
I should be wary of my next visit to the locker room as there will no longer be men hiding their penises from me, all shall be displaying it at full mast for me to fully enjoy their size, free of insecurity.
All those men who got around a lot because they were confident in themselves with some thanks to their dicks. The men who advertise themselves for having such large meatsicles of pleasure. The men whom are being sought out specifically for their endowment and having rumors spread of the rare gift. Oh those men, all fooled. None of that is really happening. The women that have become complete size queens and try to find larger men, oh how have you been fooled. For none of it aligns with the biological average proven in the study from the gods. To all the numerous variables whom remain a mystery and to those unnamed, your existence is not. Everything is a constant for there are no variables.



Well I'm done with this thread I'm gonna go watch some basketball now and use my super awesome studies and call bullshit on the players and fans. There's no way they can be that tall, everyone's experience is completely useless. It's not valid in the presence of my ultra awesome science studies that didn't account for hardly any variable that would actually be relevant in this scenario. After that I'm probably gonna go kick the shit out of all those body builder posers at the gym. There cannot be that much of a concentration of such strong people in any area, they must be all full of shit, no wonder they look all lumpy. Thank goodness for my studies. They tell me what I can and can't experience in life. How great it is to be an idiot, I don't have to think about things myself, the study did all the studying for me. :)

Enjoy your day. I hope you find a study buddy. Your posts made me laugh.. no it didn't there's a study that says dumb shit doesn't make people laugh, I think I saw it on wiki. Haha thank you studies :3 who needs experiences when you have studies.

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You can find your answer in that ball of shit ^^^^^^^^^. If you can't I guess you don't get an answer. Well I'm out. It was fun typing that dumbass response. A dumbass response warrants another dumbass response *shrugs* So I gave this one to you in response to yours.
 
I'm sure you're probably right Spoiler. Not arguing your point. Just saying my experiences are different. Of course, everybody might disagree, that's fine, but as I'm not a troll & am being honest, I'm simply stating what I know. A couple of powerful 'facts' in my life have convinced me of this:

a. Flaccid, I'm noticeably smaller than both my brothers, under all weather conditions.

b. In the military, where I spent 3 months in close confinement with 30+ guys, the standing joke was that I bunked next to the largest flaccid guy as I was the smallest. Granted, flaccid size ranges drastically, but you'd expect a pretty accurate impression to form over 3 months among guys, who probably look at dicks more than women do!

c. My first serious girlfriend was a cock lover who had slept with 15+ guys by her mid-twenties. Obviously my size didn't bother her that much but we had honest conversations (because my insecurity leads to broaching a subject rather than shying away from it, and no, I'm not into SPH). She told me at 5.1in, I was the smallest she'd been with, and also the smallest she'd seen flaccid, although she insisted it didn't matter. And she said it was notably smaller, as in the other guys were all just below the 6 mark, and then up from there with a few being huge & she felt the difference. I have no reason to believe she'd lie to me. The information was offered at my request, not volunteered, & it was given sensitively, not in a gleeful or boastful way.

c. My current long-term gf & I had the chat several years into our relationship. All her exes were bigger, one of them was 'huge' & she said she enjoyed him most because he was the biggest. She said from her estimations (and she's better than many girls at measurement, it's part of her career!), I was the only one was very obviously under 5.5 - she thought I was less than 5 because I only get to 5 when I'm rock hard. This info affected me badly - I hadn't expected the 'bigger is better' bit - and she immediately softened the story, but I'm more at peace with it now. Don't ask if you don't want to know!

d. Among my group of friends, who have played sports and seen each other naked, I'm the smallest flaccid. That's also a standing joke, but not a nasty one. Again, I concede flaccid sizes vary a lot & there are growers & showers, but these are guys I've known for more than 20 years. A couple of them are literally massive flaccid (although, interestingly, it hasn't necessarily 'won' them more or prettier girls).

Those are the 'facts' (admittedly just my anecdotes) that have led me to believe what I believe. Again, I concede that that may very well probably be wrong, and medical studies show that it probably is. But I can't just turn a blind-eye to my life experiences & say it never happened & that I should follow the 'average' figure because everybody else does.

Lastly, let me tell you, that if the average really is 5.1 inches, I'd be the happiest guy here! I just personally don't believe that it is, and that average is 6 or slightly upwards of.
If it's not netting them more or prettier girls I guess it doesn't matter :p

I assume you got yourself a real looker and obviously a keeper so at the end of the day you win since you got her and they don't. If you can get the girl, keep her, maker happy/she makes you happy. You won in my book.

:3 at least penis size is far from the most important thing or we'd all been fucked figuratively definitely not literally ;)
 
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I guess if in my experience I've seen more above average porn stars it must also be bs since it doesn't align with the biological average of your very concrete impenetrable studies. Gee I guess running into a huge dick is a once or twice in a life time event. How the women that should ever have such an encounter should cherish that moment and relish in the glory of the almighty dick. Pray to the internet gods for sending them a miracle. I just don't know what I was thinking, of course there aren't millions upon millions of men that are near crippled about their insecurity of their penis. These poor women being swarmed with hyper confident average sized men.
I should be wary of my next visit to the locker room as there will no longer be men hiding their penises from me, all shall be displaying it at full mast for me to fully enjoy their size, free of insecurity.
All those men who got around a lot because they were confident in themselves with some thanks to their dicks. The men who advertise themselves for having such large meatsicles of pleasure. The men whom are being sought out specifically for their endowment and having rumors spread of the rare gift. Oh those men, all fooled. None of that is really happening. The women that have become complete size queens and try to find larger men, oh how have you been fooled. For none of it aligns with the biological average proven in the study from the gods. To all the numerous variables whom remain a mystery and to those unnamed, your existence is not. Everything is a constant for there are no variables.



Well I'm done with this thread I'm gonna go watch some basketball now and use my super awesome studies and call bullshit on the players and fans. There's no way they can be that tall, everyone's experience is completely useless. It's not valid in the presence of my ultra awesome science studies that didn't account for hardly any variable that would actually be relevant in this scenario. After that I'm probably gonna go kick the shit out of all those body builder posers at the gym. There cannot be that much of a concentration of such strong people in any area, they must be all full of shit, no wonder they look all lumpy. Thank goodness for my studies. They tell me what I can and can't experience in life. How great it is to be an idiot, I don't have to think about things myself, the study did all the studying for me. :)

Enjoy your day. I hope you find a study buddy. Your posts made me laugh.. no it didn't there's a study that says dumb shit doesn't make people laugh, I think I saw it on wiki. Haha thank you studies :3 who needs experiences when you have studies.

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You can find your answer in that ball of shit ^^^^^^^^^. If you can't I guess you don't get an answer. Well I'm out. It was fun typing that dumbass response. A dumbass response warrants another dumbass response *shrugs* So I gave this one to you in response to yours.

The fuck? You're nuts. I'll stick with my belief in the medical studies I see, thanks. Not some nut writing me half a Shakespeare's play in an LPSG post. But whatever floats your boat.