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I don't usually give men the impression they should approach me, and they shouldn't. I don't like it. It makes me want to flee. I know that's odd, but it's true. Generally, I do the approaching instead, if I want to talk. I bring my own beverage with me. I don't offer him one. I don't finish mine until I'm either ready to leave him, or we both join my friends. I do not accept drinks. I think instead of saying no to a sponsored round, I'll ask for seltzer and lime. That's what I switch to when it's time to sober up. Could be educational.
 
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By a crazy huge margin. I am so happy for the people of Ireland.
100 years after Irish women got the vote, they got reproductive freedom.
*happy dance and fireworks*
It’s amazing. Finally women don’t have to travel to England or sail out on a boat to get the help they need. So happy they have the freedom to choose.
 
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It’s amazing. Finally women don’t have to travel to England or sail out on a boat to get the help they need. So happy they have the freedom to choose.
Oh no. I have a feeling that there will be various limits and conditions. It won't just be as straightforward as having the freedom to choose. I'll be interested in reading the small print.
 
I don't usually give men the impression they should approach me, and they shouldn't. I don't like it. It makes me want to flee. I know that's odd, but it's true. Generally, I do the approaching instead, if I want to talk. I bring my own beverage with me. I don't offer him one. I don't finish mine until I'm either ready to leave him, or we both join my friends. I do not accept drinks. I think instead of saying no to a sponsored round, I'll ask for seltzer and lime. That's what I switch to when it's time to sober up. Could be educational.

I've spent a lot of time in bars, working in them and hanging out in them. The facebook post quoted above kind of oversimplifies things, and it reflects some class and cultural biases.

First of all, she leaves out the biggest problem with accepting a drink from a stranger -- roofies are way more common than people think. You should never accept a drink if you didn't watch the bartender make it and keep it in your sight the entire time. Never leave your drink unattended and if a new acquaintance is chatting you up, keep your hand over your drink when you're not drinking it.

Second of all, if you're in the kind of college-town bar where barmaids walk around with trays of $1 Jello shots; or you're on a business trip and drinking at your hotel bar; or you're in one of those cavernous, Middle-American suburban bars where it's karaoke night five nights a week and the most popular request is "Don't Stop Believin'" and they keep three bottles of Jaeger on tap -- then she's probably right that when a dude offers to buy a lady a drink, he is blatantly making a "move."

But if you're in an old-school neighborhood bar, particularly in ethnic neighborhoods, it's a different story. (Also punk-rock bars, but there are hardly any left.) People buy each other drinks all the time in these places. Straight men buy drinks for other straight men. Heck, the bartender sometimes buys you a drink, although that seems to be a dying practice (if they do, tip the price of the drink).

The point is, not all bars are "meat markets." Some bars are actually kind of like community centers. In these places, if women come in and are presented with free drinks, it's probably not a "move." It's more a way of saying, "Hey, I know we're a bit rough around the edges in here, but we're good people and thanks for dropping in."

You should still keep your guard up. I'm just saying that the offer of a free drink isn't the same in all situations.
 
First of all, she leaves out the biggest problem with accepting a drink from a stranger -- roofies are way more common than people think. You should never accept a drink if you didn't watch the bartender make it and keep it in your sight the entire time. Never leave your drink unattended and if a new acquaintance is chatting you up, keep your hand over your drink when you're not drinking it.
This is SOP and has been for so long I didn't think I needed to mention it. I also give the bartenders my drink to hold for me if I am alone and need to go to the restroom, unless I know they have a shelf for the drink in the loo. But at this point, doesn't everyone know this? I've been using these practices for two decades.

But if you're in an old-school neighborhood bar, particularly in ethnic neighborhoods, it's a different story.
False. I'm FROM such a neighborhood, and this does not match my experience. Not at all. This is where I learned to reject all proffered drinks in the first place. Paying for my own prevents a misunderstanding and awkwardness later.

Some bars are actually kind of like community centers. In these places, if women come in and are presented with free drinks, it's probably not a "move." It's more a way of saying, "Hey, I know we're a bit rough around the edges in here, but we're good people and thanks for dropping in."
Here's the thing. You are assuming that those things which wouldn't be written into a brief editorial simply because they are generally understood have not been written because they aren't understood, as opposed to being omitted for brevity. Here is something everyone with tits seems to already know, without having it explained to them like they've never been to a bar before. If the drink is offered without much conversation first, it's a come-on. If significant rapport has been established, it's a friendly gesture.

Personally, I reject all drinks, no matter what. The only exception is if I find myself in a group buying rounds, something that hasn't been the case since my early twenties.
 
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If the drink is offered without much conversation first, it's a come-on. If significant rapport has been established, it's a friendly gesture.
I'm not so sure. Some of them have skills and know that they need to make conversation first, and then the intention is the same.
 
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lol, I had an ex who did the bandaid thing all the time when we were going out to keep her nipps from drawing attention.