The fear of female sexuality

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I love you too.

I was clarifying because the way you worded it could mean:

- how a guy looks

- a man now exists in this space
You are either 1) stupid
2) intentionally focusing on minutiae, or 3) trolling.
Any way that falls out, I am done.
You aren’t seeking anything honestly.
 
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You are either 1) stupid
2) intentionally focusing on minutiae, or 3) trolling.
Any way that falls out, I am done.
You aren’t seeking anything honestly.

I apologize if I am not great at articulating my curiosity.

If women share in being sexually intrigued by a stranger's physical features, it seems hypocritical to fault men for doing it.

I am bewildered that sexual desire based solely on physical features is considered rapey.
 

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I apologize if I am not great at articulating my curiosity.

If women share in being sexually intrigued by a stranger's physical features, it seems hypocritical to fault men for doing it.

I am bewildered that sexual desire based solely on physical features is considered rapey.
Fair enough. And, just to be clear, I'm not suggesting you are rapist...

I'm making an important point about male language and mindset towards women.

Bottom line, you're not a woman. You haven't had a lifetime of experiences like being whistled at, told you've got a nice arse/rack, randomly chatted up by men you aren't in the least bit interested in. That's kinda on what we might euphemistically term the "softer end" of male behaviour. Look at the underlying stats and it's depressing; every 10 minutes, somewhere in the world, an adolescent girl dies as a result of violence. Nearly one in five girls is sexually abused at least once in her life. In the United States, 18 percent of girls report that by age 17 they have been victims of a sexual assault or abuse at the hands of another adolescent. That's nearly 1 in 5. That's quite a lot.

So with these general conditions - and you might reasonably say, "I'm not like that!" - we must look at the way men think, what they say and why they think this kind of behaviour is acceptable. There is a loooong history of men using, abusing, owning women and there is a collective memory of that dominance.

It is often considered fair game for men to pass comment on a woman's looks or discuss who you'd like to fuck. It's an early building block in a train of thought that reduces women to their body parts or sex organs and says That is not really a person, that is something I want.

It's all on a spectrum, not a healthy one, and a spectrum that doesn't view women as equals or partner but as things.

So begin at the beginning and challenge that kind of behaviour and language when you see it in your friends, co-workers, whoever. It's wrong.
 
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I apologize if I am not great at articulating my curiosity.

If women share in being sexually intrigued by a stranger's physical features, it seems hypocritical to fault men for doing it.

I am bewildered that sexual desire based solely on physical features is considered rapey.

Here's the difference a'la LPSG

Woman sees attractive man and feels a flutter in her bits, and thinks "WOW he's pretty hot"

Dude sees an attractive woman and thinks "i want to wreck all her holes, choke her and cum in her eyeball"
 

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Here's the difference a'la LPSG

Woman sees attractive man and feels a flutter in her bits, and thinks "WOW he's pretty hot"

Dude sees an attractive woman and thinks "i want to wreck all her holes, choke her and cum in her eyeball"
You were much more succinct :D
 
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So with these general conditions - and you might reasonably say, "I'm not like that!" - we must look at the way men think, what they say and why they think this kind of behaviour is acceptable. There is a loooong history of men using, abusing, owning women and there is a collective memory of that dominance.

It is often considered fair game for men to pass comment on a woman's looks or discuss who you'd like to fuck. It's an early building block in a train of thought that reduces women to their body parts or sex organs and says That is not really a person, that is something I want.

It's all on a spectrum, not a healthy one, and a spectrum that doesn't view women as equals or partner but as things.

So begin at the beginning and challenge that kind of behaviour and language when you see it in your friends, co-workers, whoever. It's wrong.
With this, you just became my latest LPSG crush. You give good post. Thanks for being here.
 

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With this, you just became my latest LPSG crush. You give good post. Thanks for being here.
It's been really bugging me this week! It's not that it still needs to be said, it's more the blowback you get from stating the frickin' obvious, if you know what I mean?

The men on this site... eesshh.

On a lighter note, I spotted a postcard on the high street that read:

Men are from earth. Women are from earth. Deal with it.

:)
 

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Here's the difference a'la LPSG

Woman sees attractive man and feels a flutter in her bits, and thinks "WOW he's pretty hot"

Dude sees an attractive woman and thinks "i want to wreck all her holes, choke her and cum in her eyeball"

That's a very extreme, violent, demeaning and, I would hope, rare version of intrigue.

Is there no distinction between that, and a Billy Madison-esque "So hot, want to touch the heiny?"
 

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It is often considered fair game for men to pass comment on a woman's looks or discuss who you'd like to fuck. It's an early building block in a train of thought that reduces women to their body parts or sex organs and says That is not really a person, that is something I want.

It's all on a spectrum, not a healthy one, and a spectrum that doesn't view women as equals or partner but as things.

Discussing amongst your friends people you want to have sex with is bad?

I don't understand how attraction works for you.

Are you saying, a man can only be sexually attracted to a woman if he knows them personally?
 

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Discussing amongst your friends people you want to have sex with is bad?

I don't understand how attraction works for you.

Are you saying, a man can only be sexually attracted to a woman if he knows them personally?
Yr question kinda goes to the heart of the thread however; again, just because a woman may choose to display her sexuality does not give men the right to do want they want with her.


I meant exactly what I said.

Have respect for others.
 

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Again, I have never said otherwise.

Your previous posts allude that a man does not have the right to even contemplate what they want with her.

I think my unfortunate conclusion was that as sad as it is to have to make the case for treating women with respect in the first instance, it is the push back that occurs from men that is the oddity. It's like someone actually tried to rip your balls off.

The men who ask these questions rarely stop and say, "Oh, wait a mo'! I never thought of it like that!" or "Wow, I never thought a woman might feel like that, maybe I'll do things differently from now on."

No, they wriggle.
 
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That's a very extreme, violent, demeaning and, I would hope, rare version of intrigue.

Is there no distinction between that, and a Billy Madison-esque "So hot, want to touch the heiny?"
I think @DiamondJoe nailed it when he described men's desire for some THING they want vs some ONE they want.

No one is saying men shouldn't be sexually attracted to women or women shouldn't be sexually attracted to men... or that there is a difference between the desire. The difference is how men act about it... even if its just thoughts in his head... that's deemed acceptable by society. It is rare that a woman would catcall a man. It's not polite... but for a guy it's totally fine. Boys being boys. That snowballs. Like DJ described. Its not cool.

Your previous posts allude that a man does not have the right to even contemplate what they want with her.
When he contemplates her as an OBJECT to put his dick in, and not as a PERSON with her own right to autonomy, no... i don't think he has that right.
 
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That's a very extreme, violent, demeaning and, I would hope, rare version of intrigue.

Is there no distinction between that, and a Billy Madison-esque "So hot, want to touch the heiny?"

Read some of the fiction forum, starting with "Chet, Destroyer of Pussies" (or something like that) and you'll see there are a lot of men on here who at least fantasize about disrespectful and violent sexual encounters with women. This attitude seems to be much more prevalent on this forum than others I've perused, and I'd have to wonder if it's related to an underlying idea that men with big cocks are entitled to get whatever they want from women.
 

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Read some of the fiction forum, starting with "Chet, Destroyer of Pussies" (or something like that) and you'll see there are a lot of men on here who at least fantasize about disrespectful and violent sexual encounters with women. This attitude seems to be much more prevalent on this forum than others I've perused, and I'd have to wonder if it's related to an underlying idea that men with big cocks are entitled to get whatever they want from women.
Yep, and let's not forget the role that porn has in shaping expectation and fantasy.
 

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Stopping in to say, I appreciate the replies Sagittarius got in the thread he started in AASM which he started as a "piggyback" to this thread.

I can't post there, so I'm throwing some props to the fellas who replied with common sense and gave me a kernel of hope for our species.
 

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Stopping in to say, I appreciate the replies Sagittarius got in the thread he started in AASM which he started as a "piggyback" to this thread.

I can't post there, so I'm throwing some props to the fellas who replied with common sense and gave me a kernel of hope for our species.

Fuck Loyd or Mini-Loyd or whatever the fuck the elderly overgrown Incel calls themselves this week. Clearly wisdom does not come with age. He pretty much fucked it for the rest of us dirty old bastards.

Almost forgot to acknowledge my place of worship

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Again, I have never said otherwise.

Your previous posts allude that a man does not have the right to even contemplate what they want with her.
No one can monitor another persons thoughts, only that person can. What one can do is ponder that thought and wonder if it’s a healthy thought. Sure, I’ll be the first to admit if I see an attractive woman, I’ll get ‘sinful’ thoughts. Purely physical, as that is all I know about her. That’s the primal part of being a human male. That garbage part. The more advanced parts of my noodle reel that back in and tell the ape part of my brain to fuck off and stop thinking like a giant silverback gorilla, thats a person, not an object to ogle and violate and fuck. Thankfully, that process is rather quick, and I’m much better off for it. My self-creep alarm is swift. I’m no saint, nor am I a genius, but I try and hopefully succeed most of the time in not being an objectifying creeper.

In other words, we all have not so pure thoughts, it’s what you do with them when arrive at your brains door that makes a big difference.