Isn't it amusing? The confusion comes from people refusing to separate the fantasy (BBC) from the reality (there's nothing "special" about black men). If there was no "history" behind the myth and the negativity surrounding that, it wouldn't even be brought up at all.
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Isn't it amusing? The confusion comes from people refusing to separate the fantasy (BBC) from the reality (there's nothing "special" about black men). If there was no "history" behind the myth and the negativity surrounding that, it wouldn't even be brought up at all.
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Um, do you think the Tiger Woods scandal would have as big if he were white? Look at Kim Kardashian and how there's a comment that she's always with black guys like it's a big deal?
YES...the Tiger scandal would've been big news whatever color he was.
Dude...he's the most famous golfer in the history of the sport. And one of the most famous PEOPLE in the world. Of course it was big news.
Kim Kardashian? Come on. That's just silly she'd dated black men for years...she famous for fucking a black guy(Ray J) on camera. Not sure wht your point is using her as an example.
Which brings me back your "abnormal" comment.
I'm still waiting for you to back that up. Or(more likly the case) it's YOU who seem to have the issue.
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You're not entiteld to me justifiying it to you. If Tiger's wife was black, IT WOULDN'T BE A BIG DEAL.
I'm done with you and the attacks.
You're not entiteld to me justifiying it to you. If Tiger's wife was black, IT WOULDN'T BE A BIG DEAL.
I'm done with you and the attacks.
Attacks? When did I attack you? I just asked you to back up your statement(which you can't)...Now, you can back it up with your OPINION(which is what you seem to be doing), but that doesn't make it true.
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No, your mistake was assuming that I said, and I quote you, "I'd like you to show me one mainstream media article or quote in which a celeb married to a black person is called "abnormal" "
I did not say that. What I did say was
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I didn't say a specific media source did-which you can clearly see in my quote-I was talking about blacks in general (and the one time I did hear somone talk about black guys and Kim Kardashian was on the TMZ show, but didn't mention it here).
And also above it wasn't necessarily a celebrity but any person.
Again, and I'm sticking to it, the BBC's fetishization isn't something I sit well with. Because outside of that, a black male literally has no value. It's why, say, Trayvon can be shot in the manner that he was.
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I find it really degrading and nauseating, it represents an unhealthy sexual fetishisation of black men emanating from an extremely dark and unpleasant chapter in history, and i don't feel comfortable with it.
I think that the objectification of an entire race of men to the status of large, walking genitalia to be sick and bizarre. For anyone who does hold this fetish, I'd suggest they open their eyes and broaden their minds to the possibility that they are attracted to a black guy based on his general looks and personality combo instead of what you think is in his pants.
I think that the objectification of an entire race of men to the status of large, walking genitalia to be sick and bizarre. For anyone who does hold this fetish, I'd suggest they open their eyes and broaden their minds to the possibility that they are attracted to a black guy based on his general looks and personality combo instead of what you think is in his pants.
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I dunno... I've answered many single gay ads from Black men... I'm attracted to them cock wise and for many other reasons... And I usually say so. Sometimes the response I get back, is something on the order of, "You want my Black Meat, don't you?" I usually say something back, that Yes... but I qualify it with, I just like large cocks no matter the color. Which is true. I'm a size queen most definitely, attracted to all men with large cocks. I haven't really figured out, much beyond that. If it's he size of the cock, or the ethnic origin of same Large cocked man.
I didn't read all the responses to the OP's question - but here's my input:
I think it has more to do with the taboo of the subject - as most fetishes are about the taboo of it all. Sure, there are other races of men with big cocks, but let's REALLY face it, the thought of being with a black man is a subject some women (and men) would like to keep secret for fear of the blah, blah, blah - AND, it's still very much a taboo subject.
With the internet that allows people a piece of anonymity, I think we seek the things we (in many cases) wouldn't normally seek in our everyday lives. However, there are people who DO seek out sex with black men, er, BBC - because they simply don't care what others think.
But, there are always the people who just WANT to have sex with black men. No other explanation needed. No, not every black man has a BBC, but that's part of the fantasy. They enjoy being with him - no biggie.
Do I feel objectified? No, because they aren't talking about me. It gets on my nerves too when I see or read about BBC, ESPECIALLY when the picture CLEARLY depicts SBC! No person has ever contacted me simply because of my race (I don't think) - I think it's because of what they see about me. I have often told people I am not "huge", but I'm also certainly above average. However, as many men can attest, I enjoy persons who speak "positively" about my member, it's an ego stroke.
But I do share in your "I'm over it!" stance of the rash of BBC postings. But again, I think people are entitled to their fantasy and who am I to kill that fantasy.
Just my $0.02
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I think it has more to do with the taboo of the subject - as most fetishes are about the taboo of it all. Sure, there are other races of men with big cocks, but let's REALLY face it, the thought of being with a black man is a subject some women (and men) would like to keep secret for fear of the blah, blah, blah - AND, it's still very much a taboo subject.
With the internet that allows people a piece of anonymity, I think we seek the things we (in many cases) wouldn't normally seek in our everyday lives. However, there are people who DO seek out sex with black men, er, BBC - because they simply don't care what others think.
But, there are always the people who just WANT to have sex with black men. No other explanation needed. No, not every black man has a BBC, but that's part of the fantasy. They enjoy being with him - no biggie.
Do I feel objectified? No, because they aren't talking about me. It gets on my nerves too when I see or read about BBC, ESPECIALLY when the picture CLEARLY depicts SBC! No person has ever contacted me simply because of my race (I don't think) - I think it's because of what they see about me. I have often told people I am not "huge", but I'm also certainly above average. However, as many men can attest, I enjoy persons who speak "positively" about my member, it's an ego stroke.
But I do share in your "I'm over it!" stance of the rash of BBC postings. But again, I think people are entitled to their fantasy and who am I to kill that fantasy.
Just my $0.02
Simba
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geez you don't have to take away the attention black men get...
Okay take it back, we don't need anyone obsessing over our cocks.
Maybe it's not the size of black men but how they use it ?
The racial separation along racial lines would inspire members from each group to be curious about the other.
Exposure to black dick was great while exposure to white dick wasn't all that great, ofcourse this person would be wrong for assuming all white dick isn't great but this provides an explanation.
Okay take it back, we don't need anyone obsessing over our cocks.
Maybe it's not the size of black men but how they use it ?
The racial separation along racial lines would inspire members from each group to be curious about the other.
Exposure to black dick was great while exposure to white dick wasn't all that great, ofcourse this person would be wrong for assuming all white dick isn't great but this provides an explanation.
No offense but i find this whole tread a bit obvious and dare i say ridiculous.
It just seems more a (polite if thinly veiled rant on BBC rather than a genuine curiosity as to why it arose as a point of sexual fascination. i just can't believe that you don't already know.
The preface to the thread seems to me a complete insensitive comment. Because prefacing the thread that way doesn't admonish you from opening up a can of worms and inviting danger (of potential hurt feelings ) just for your own amusement. Obviously everyone is sensitive about race, class and politics and your question about the BBC porn and the fetish-i-zatoin of the black man (and by extension of blackness and of other people of color in general) is inherently racial, class based and political.
So, I hope you're learning something by this discussion that you didn't already know... and not just taking a poll to see how many people agree with you about not 'getting' BBC porn cause you're all are so enlightened that you can see past color. Yea right.
It seems like an effort to create negative space just to point out how some don't 'get' (IE like, approve of, enjoy, etc) the BBC fetish.
What does that even mean? You don't get it. Ok fine - so what. So, don't watch it. I think it's find to say your don't like it but why ask black men why they 'participate it'? As if one black man speaks for the whole race ... As if black men must be held to some high moral ground that white men aren't. Do we not exhale the great white American penis (and ego) and white male sexual prowess in all other arenas?
Look beneath the surface and let's face it, white men ARE a fetish in the porn industry (only it is just not as obvious since society is predominately white and perceives non whites as 'other' thereby objectifying the other in the presentation - thereby creating a fetish). We see white men/women paired with any other race for great marketing effect in the sex industry.
i just... well... you can't be telling me that you've never learned why white society has historically objectified and developed fetishes for sex with peoples of other cultures....particularly black men. come on.
I just can't believe that you posted the thread to create real, frank dialogue around blackness and sexual fetish and that you think a disclaimer will prevent you from seeming racist while asking a very loaded question w. a very obvious answer.
you know the answer, unless you live in a totally homogeneous community w/ no legacy of colonization and youve never heard of the transatlantic slave trade. Unlikely.
Frankly i love anything hot involving blg cock. And i'm a black woman so BBC is just a big ass plus for me. If you can't check out BBC stuff and know that nowadays it is joke and no less objectifying than any other porn, if you can't check it knowing that all that trash talk/race talk is acting, for effect, a joke, and completely 'tongue and cheek', then i donno what to say. We (all colors) are merely laughing at our former ignorance and enjoying some fun create by the fantasy that an old bothersome taboo can provide.
if you don't see that.. then yes i guess... yea... you just dont 'get' BBC. and somehow race still makes you uncomfortable enough that you cannot get past the old taboo and just get off.
If you can, then take a BBC and the man attached to it, call him your black Mandingo, tell him to fuck your naughty white pussy w. his big African cock (everyone likes to be told they have a big cock right?) then, then after you both reach climax, lay together all sexy-funky, hold him, adore him and his BBC and love him like the human being that he is. All while you both marvel in how sexy it can be to pretend and fantasize using a a social/sexual/political taboo of the past to tranform your present reality. BBC takes something rooted in a shared experience of trumpet over pain and you decide where to take it. BBC doesn't have to be degrading, unless you want it to be and u get off on that.If you somehow uncomfortable with this shared past ...then yea, BBC might be over your head. But it can also be fun, worshiping, positive and loving by playing off the irony in the taboo of the past and today's reality. Esp if you're a loving inter-racial couple. Edit: and it really is a private matter and not really valid what others think who aren't in it.
I'm not trying to pick a fight but that's how i feel on the matter... since you bothered to ask.
It just seems more a (polite if thinly veiled rant on BBC rather than a genuine curiosity as to why it arose as a point of sexual fascination. i just can't believe that you don't already know.
The preface to the thread seems to me a complete insensitive comment. Because prefacing the thread that way doesn't admonish you from opening up a can of worms and inviting danger (of potential hurt feelings ) just for your own amusement. Obviously everyone is sensitive about race, class and politics and your question about the BBC porn and the fetish-i-zatoin of the black man (and by extension of blackness and of other people of color in general) is inherently racial, class based and political.
So, I hope you're learning something by this discussion that you didn't already know... and not just taking a poll to see how many people agree with you about not 'getting' BBC porn cause you're all are so enlightened that you can see past color. Yea right.
It seems like an effort to create negative space just to point out how some don't 'get' (IE like, approve of, enjoy, etc) the BBC fetish.
What does that even mean? You don't get it. Ok fine - so what. So, don't watch it. I think it's find to say your don't like it but why ask black men why they 'participate it'? As if one black man speaks for the whole race ... As if black men must be held to some high moral ground that white men aren't. Do we not exhale the great white American penis (and ego) and white male sexual prowess in all other arenas?
Look beneath the surface and let's face it, white men ARE a fetish in the porn industry (only it is just not as obvious since society is predominately white and perceives non whites as 'other' thereby objectifying the other in the presentation - thereby creating a fetish). We see white men/women paired with any other race for great marketing effect in the sex industry.
i just... well... you can't be telling me that you've never learned why white society has historically objectified and developed fetishes for sex with peoples of other cultures....particularly black men. come on.
I just can't believe that you posted the thread to create real, frank dialogue around blackness and sexual fetish and that you think a disclaimer will prevent you from seeming racist while asking a very loaded question w. a very obvious answer.
you know the answer, unless you live in a totally homogeneous community w/ no legacy of colonization and youve never heard of the transatlantic slave trade. Unlikely.
Frankly i love anything hot involving blg cock. And i'm a black woman so BBC is just a big ass plus for me. If you can't check out BBC stuff and know that nowadays it is joke and no less objectifying than any other porn, if you can't check it knowing that all that trash talk/race talk is acting, for effect, a joke, and completely 'tongue and cheek', then i donno what to say. We (all colors) are merely laughing at our former ignorance and enjoying some fun create by the fantasy that an old bothersome taboo can provide.
if you don't see that.. then yes i guess... yea... you just dont 'get' BBC. and somehow race still makes you uncomfortable enough that you cannot get past the old taboo and just get off.
If you can, then take a BBC and the man attached to it, call him your black Mandingo, tell him to fuck your naughty white pussy w. his big African cock (everyone likes to be told they have a big cock right?) then, then after you both reach climax, lay together all sexy-funky, hold him, adore him and his BBC and love him like the human being that he is. All while you both marvel in how sexy it can be to pretend and fantasize using a a social/sexual/political taboo of the past to tranform your present reality. BBC takes something rooted in a shared experience of trumpet over pain and you decide where to take it. BBC doesn't have to be degrading, unless you want it to be and u get off on that.If you somehow uncomfortable with this shared past ...then yea, BBC might be over your head. But it can also be fun, worshiping, positive and loving by playing off the irony in the taboo of the past and today's reality. Esp if you're a loving inter-racial couple. Edit: and it really is a private matter and not really valid what others think who aren't in it.
I'm not trying to pick a fight but that's how i feel on the matter... since you bothered to ask.
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I don't view Fleurs original post as racist or even borderline racist. I view her post as a serious question on the BBC fetish. As pointed out in the thread there's hardly even a BWC (or BWD) fetish or a fetish for big cocks in other ethnic groups. So why this (in my view degrading cultural) need for a BBC?
Might still be true somewhere, however I find this so last century (to put it bluntly)
I "just dont 'get' BBC" either - and race doesn't make me uncomfortable. How could it - we're all humans no matter if out skin is green, purple or blue.
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Who cares if it was long that was a great post i really enjoyed it....i think OP meant well...maybe she got side tracked when asking that question and then it changed in the middle of writing into something else or maybe changed in tone while writing (I do this alot) so it came off a lil weird to some at first including myself but of course i cant speak for anyone....
I understand you're just speculating and that's okay but for the record, nothing changed in the middle nor did my tone. I did my best to well think out my question and form it. It was the same question I started out with and it's what got written. My question is what it is. I apologize if it came off weird to you, I did the best I could.
Ahh, that beautiful phrase "no offense" when you intend to do exactly that. I love your whole idea there, that if someone poses an inquiry to a topic you assume everyone knows it's null and void. So if YOU deem everyone must know it's an obvious question and therefore asking about it is ridiculous is just about the definition of ignorant. So, beautiful all knowing Queen, who decides it's 'obvious' and not worth an 'obvious' discussion? It's not ridiculous to ask a valid question coming from genuine curiosity.
I was honestly curious and interested in my topic. However I was fearful of posting it for backlash from people who wouldn't get it. So thanks for fulfilling that. Obviously I hit a nerve, particularly with you LilQueenofSpades. I'm not sure how the preface of this thread is an insensitive comment. I did my best to BE sensitive to the topic and others.
It's a genuine question about a genuine albeit touchy subject. I wanted an open dialog about it and to field opinions, ideas, thoughts from others rather than being closed-minded and just saying it's 'obvious' why. Open dicussions like this are enlightening, break down barriers and open people's eyes to a situation they didn't before understand. It releases tension to talk things out. I'm sorry that that bothers you.
And it's obviously a non-obvious question because several people here have put forth very good posts on the topic which have enlightened me and I'm sure others. I am not the only one who is interested in the topic on some level. I just happened to be the one to start the thread.
Obvious or not is really moot. It's not obvious for everyone or as simple as you make it. You don't get to determine my feelings or determine if a topic is too obvious to discuss. And the point of this thread was to discuss the topic, not to state how obvious it was to you. Which could be seen as insensitive and bullying others into not talking about it. Not talking about issues like this is what causes problems.
The long list of an experience/pretend story you give is not what I'm talking about either which is why I think you probably don't get the topic of the thread in the first place and why it bothers you so much.
I won't be responding to any of your other posts from here on out as you've won a ticket to my ignore list. Good luck with your ignorance! It's bliss, no?
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First, that's good, I was just starting to wonder. Apologies.
Second, I know you don't. I was merely concerned and possibly confused about what you mean exactly. Thanks for clearing it up. I get it now!
Third, I don't think so! You voice your opinions and that's awesome. I wish I were as brave.
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im not gonna wade into this but my gf saw this picture and commented to me "damn"
I asked if the guys she dated before (black) were bigger and she said quote"for the most part" whats wrong with fantasy? some folks have a BBC fantasy,some weirder too
big deal..good lord were on a site where are weeners are on display!lol how objectifying is THAT!lol
im not gonna wade into this but my gf saw this picture and commented to me "damn"
I asked if the guys she dated before (black) were bigger and she said quote"for the most part" whats wrong with fantasy? some folks have a BBC fantasy,some weirder too
big deal..good lord were on a site where are weeners are on display!lol how objectifying is THAT!lol