Circumcision scar?

[IntactMale]

too many, I can't find half of my posts anymore.

I think any conversation about cock is going to revolve around 3 basic debates.

Mine is bigger than yours.
Girth or Length is more important than the other.
And circumcised or not.

I think the circumsicion topic is so heated because it's the only one that involves medicine, culture and religion. And usually if you have a belief one way or the other it's going to be a strong one.

 

[Matthew]

Well, we've been through many heated debates about circumcision even since I joined.

It would be extra cool if they were in one thread so the people who want to participate could find them and the people who want to avoid it could do so easily. But, hey, whatever.

Re: Finding your posts -- if you are looking at one of your posts, you can find the rest by clicking on your username. You'll see a drop-down menu, and one of the options will be "Find more posts by..." .

 

[IntactMale]

I know, that's how I look for them. But some of mine don't seem to show up when I check later. Will admin. remove a post? If so, why would they?

I agree it can get repetitive and it's harder to maintain the site, but a topic that gets discussed so much would be very cluttered in one thread, and it would be too long to read through the entire thread. Maybe Circumsicion should have it's own section of the forum.

 

[Matthew]

Will admin. remove a post? If so, why would they?

Not normally. Maybe double posts or spam, but not just randomly or because someone didn't like what you posted.

 

[Dr Rock]

oh by the way, many people with chronic ulcers on their legs due to venous stasis, pvd, pad, and sacral ulcers are very thankful for the circumcisions because the foreskin is used in the apligraft used after debriding the ulcer to cover it and stimulate new growth.....

oh, that's very persuasive. i'll get my next kid cut and when he demands to know why part of his dick is missing, i'll reassure him that it was put to good use patching up someone else's ulcers.

 

[baseball99]

oh, that's very persuasive. i'll get my next kid cut and when he demands to know why part of his dick is missing, i'll reassure him that it was put to good use patching up someone else's ulcers.

see thats the spirit! :wink:

 

[skybluedude]

I'd like to think that I helped make someone a nice skin graft...

 

[robertomuro]

see thats the spirit! :wink:

hehe, I've just got to laugh at that response! :biggrin1:

 

[Mike13]

I just think it's terrible to do ritual/religious circumscision to someone before they've even gained the ability to make rational decisions for themselves. I'd hate my parents for making a decision about my body without my consent like that.

 

[BigCollege_Cock]

My friend has like a 2 colored penis...lol well it is dark skinned and then like an inch or 2 before the head it is different colored like lighter skinned or pinkish...there is like a dark ring around the penis where the colors seperate...is that a scar?

 

[BigCollege_Cock]

I just think it's terrible to do ritual/religious circumscision to someone before they've even gained the ability to make rational decisions for themselves. I'd hate my parents for making a decision about my body without my consent like that.

:frown1: Yeah I always wondered what it would be like to be uncut...guess I'll never have that chance to know

 

[B_dxjnorto]

see thats the spirit! :wink:

Hi Baseball,

My parents were bombarded with foreskin propaganda their whole lives. I have been unable after several years to re-educate either my mother or my father. Strangely, neither of their fathers were cut [both have passed on]. My mother has four brothers who are all still living with their natural endowments, but they cut all of their male children.

I don't think it's funny that pelts are purloined from newborns to use as seed culture for skin graft and skin care products (see TNS Recovery Complex http://skincarerx.com/review_box.html?prid=560 )

I have a suspicion that your age may be working against you in this discussion. Would you mind stating your age? I'll go first. I'm forty-four.

 

[chico8]

My friend has like a 2 colored penis...lol well it is dark skinned and then like an inch or 2 before the head it is different colored like lighter skinned or pinkish...there is like a dark ring around the penis where the colors seperate...is that a scar?

Guys who have dark-skinned penises often have lighter skin on the inside of their foreskin. When they're circumcised, the transition from dark to light can be very abrupt. Also, when the circumcision is more of a hack job, the transition can be very jagged and ugly. Guys with lighter skinned penises don't have as much of a visible transition.

 

[Nomad]

Yeah I remember when my parents explained circumcision to me and next time i was in the shower I looked down and noticed the scar for the first time. Until then I'd never noticed it but I felt a bit silly for not realising that the scar meant they'd cut something away.

Nobody ever explained circumcision but once my sister asked my mom because she had heard the word somewhere. We were young enough that I had no idea that I wasn't naturally like this. Mom said that it was just when they cut off some "extra skin"... for all I knew, it was functionally useless skin. I had a heck of a time trying to figure out where this "extra skin" would have been, but I didn't ask. I would find out when I saw my first Bel Ami flick. I've noticed a few foreskins lately in straight porn, too, which is encouraging. I think it's mostly European men, though.

 

[baseball99]

Hi Baseball,

My parents were bombarded with foreskin propaganda their whole lives. I have been unable after several years to re-educate either my mother or my father. Strangely, neither of their fathers were cut [both have passed on]. My mother has four brothers who are all still living with their natural endowments, but they cut all of their male children.

I don't think it's funny that pelts are purloined from newborns to use as seed culture for skin graft and skin care products (see TNS Recovery Complex http://skincarerx.com/review_box.html?prid=560 )

I have a suspicion that your age may be working against you in this discussion. Would you mind stating your age? I'll go first. I'm forty-four.

i dont think propoganda is the right word, but whatever. anyways, im 25. I dont see how my age would work against me or how being older would make me wiser on the subject. I would think my education would outweight any wisdom due to age. I have a suspicion your thinking youre more knowledgable on the subject due to your age is working against you. I have probably seen more penises than gay men at mardi gras. The vast majority that come in that are cut and uncut do not have problems.....but i can definitely think of quite a few problems related to being uncircumcised with some of the patients. I have yet to have a patient complain about being cut. None of my friends have ever said they hate life because theyre circumcised.....the only place it really seems to be an issue is this board. Whoever said it was funny that foreskin is used in skin grafts? It's a great growth medium. Anyways, that other product you put a link to, i dont see it cotaining foreskin.....it has human fibroblast growth factor but that is more likely not from foreskin.....as far as i know, only the skin grafts have been approved for using foreskin. Im sorry but i find your comment about age quite insulting. I'm sorry, im not trying to pat myself on the back but im involved with medical decisions, treatment, surgeries. I talk to patients about side effects, consequences, etc. I've had to make quick decisions for emergencies.....I am trusted with making decisions that effect people health and live's.....i think i can come to my own conclusion about circumcision without my age being a factor.....

 

[B_dxjnorto]

Baseball,

I find your thinking quite backward for a young man. I thought you were probably some old veteran nurse. I'm not saying cut guys hate life, but wait ten years. If you can't cum by then, you'll be talking out of the other side of your mouth.

Circumcision harms children. I find that people either get it right away or they never get it at all. You have to develop critical thinking skills. (In your defense, some people never do.) Learning goes from fact to conclusion, not from conclusion to fact. If you start out with foregone conclusions you will not be able to accept or process new information.

Where else would they get human fibroblast growth factor? A great growth medium derived from tissue stolen from newborn babies?! Listen to yourself.

Maybe you're saying they are already throwing the tissue in the trash, so what the hell. What message does this send to boys and men in our culture about how we view sex and sexuality? Wouldn't it be great if tissue from baby girls was turned into commercial products? (Are baby boys any less precious?)

What do you think the vast majority of men in the world would think about the way you keep repeating in various ways that they are just a disease waiting to happen?

I work in a hospital too. When they say it's not the money--It's The Money!!! Think it through man.

 

[baseball99]

Baseball,

I find your thinking quite backward for a young man. I thought you were probably some old veteran nurse. I'm not saying cut guys hate life, but wait ten years. If you can't cum by then, you'll be talking out of the other side of your mouth.

Circumcision harms children. I find that people either get it right away or they never get it at all. You have to develop critical thinking skills. (In your defense, some people never do.) Learning goes from fact to conclusion, not from conclusion to fact. If you start out with foregone conclusions you will not be able to accept or process new information.

Where else would they get human fibroblast growth factor? A great growth medium derived from tissue stolen from newborn babies?! Listen to yourself.

Maybe you're saying they are already throwing the tissue in the trash, so what the hell. What message does this send to boys and men in our culture about how we view sex and sexuality? Wouldn't it be great if tissue from baby girls was turned into commercial products? (Are baby boys any less precious?)

What do you think the vast majority of men in the world would think about the way you keep repeating in various ways that they are just a disease waiting to happen?

I work in a hospital too. When they say it's not the money--It's The Money!!! Think it through man.

actually i find my thinking quite on par with virtually everyone else i know.....in 10 years if i cant cum, its not bc i was cut, statistically, it would be more related to diabetes. That is why I pretty much work out 5-6 days a week, eat as healthy as a person in my field can with time restraints and maintain a healthy weight.

Just because I disagree with you about circumcision does not mean i dont have critical thinking skills. In fact I dont know how much you know about the USMLE but its pretty much 8 hours of critical thinking. I dont know what you do i a hospital but in my area, other than the pimping from attendings, your entire day is critcial thinking.

You obviously do not know much about science, and if you do, you really need to refresh. Most human fibroblast growht factor is produced in E.Coli.....yep pretty much the same place where we produce all the human insulin for diabetics. It is not derived from foreskin for those products. Please read up on the information before you spread truly false information. This probably isnt the exact fgf thats in the product but http://www.prospec.co.il/~prospec/cart/catalog/rHuFGFb.html . We can reproduce almost any polypeptide in E. Coli. What that good enough of an answer for you when you told me to "listen to yourself?"

I have never said uncircumcised men are a disease waiting to happen. If youre fat, have high cholesterol and hypertryglceridemia, are you not at a higher risk for having an MI or stroke? If you have multiple urinary tract infections are you not at a higher risk for pyelonephritis? How do you think the majority of people you quote feel about you misinterpreting what they say?

I know hospitals are worried about making money and alot of it has to do with lack of government funding and treating uninsured persons in the ER with a cold. I doubt highly routine circumcisions make a significant amount of money for a hospital, especially since they are not routine anymore. Again, dont you think a hospital would rather treat one older guy with phimosis and be able to charge 10-15,000 bucks for a circumcision than a couple hundred for a baby boy? I dont care about hospital politics, if i did i wouldnt have gone into medicine

 

[B_dxjnorto]

Use your Google before you start spouting off dude:

http://www.nbc10.com/health/1808693/detail.html

There is a difference between thinking and critical thinking. You say you're thinking is on par with virtually everyone you know. Here is your error. I surmise you were cut at birth as were most of the men you know. The rate of circ peaked in the nineties at 90% or more. Circ is the most common surgery in the U.S. or a very close second to episiotomy. (No matter how you slice it, that's a lot of Lexuses and crotch rockets for OBs and Peds.)

Saying you don't know different is not the same as saying there IS no difference. This is an example (or not) of critical thinking.

There is absolutely no indication for amputation of healthy genital tissue. Phimosis is a false indication for circ, ESPECIALLY in babies. (Use Google.)

Have a look around the gallery. Do you know how many guys here love their nice warm snug skin cocoons? When you get in touch with your own loss you'll start seeing beyond your current situation. You know me now, so get on par.

Gals, go with a midwife. Your hospital may be a dangerous place for newborn boys (and their mothers.) Say NO to genital cutting.

 

[baseball99]

Use your Google before you start spouting off dude:

http://www.nbc10.com/health/1808693/detail.html

There is a difference between thinking and critical thinking. You say you're thinking is on par with virtually everyone you know. Here is your error. I surmise you were cut at birth as were most of the men you know. The rate of circ peaked in the nineties at 90% or more. Circ is the most common surgery in the U.S. or a very close second to episiotomy. (No matter how you slice it, that's a lot of Lexuses and crotch rockets for OBs and Peds.)

Saying you don't know different is not the same as saying there IS no difference. This is an example (or not) of critical thinking.

There is absolutely no indication for amputation of healthy genital tissue. Phimosis is a false indication for circ, ESPECIALLY in babies. (Use Google.)

Have a look around the gallery. Do you know how many guys here love their nice warm snug skin cocoons? When you get in touch with your own loss you'll start seeing beyond your current situation. You know me now, so get on par.

Gals, go with a midwife. Your hospital may be a dangerous place for newborn boys (and their mothers.) Say NO to genital cutting.

yeh most of the guys i know are cut.....but i have a lot of friends that arent.....the only place it really seems to be an issue is this board. I've been askin many lately and the overwhelming consensus is most of them dont care.....they must be in denial right? I'm not arguing with your about critical thinking, its a waste of my time. phimosis is a fasle indication for circumcision. in fact angiography is a false indication for chest pain. while we're at it, lets treat appendicitis with antiinflammatories and just hope. When i get in touch with my own loss? Dude i honestly dont care. I have great sex, it feels great and i wouldnt want it any different. My fiance prefers cut anyways.
Also, last time i checked google is a search engine, if you want to look up info about medicine dont use google.....you have to look in medical resources.
Anyways, its kinda funny you say pediatricians and OBGYNs with lexuses etc. Pediatricians are pretty much the lowest salary physicians and the vast majorit dont perform circumcisions anyways. OBGYNs make a lot of money but their malpractice insurance is so high, theyre not even on the higher end of a pay scale.

I still seriously doubt the majority of those cremes use foreskin.....that article was from 2002. I just dont see them winning FDA approval or not removing it quick. Are you also against using fetal umbilical tissue? I mean nobody asked that baby if they could use it. It belongs to the baby and not the mother so the mother really shouldnt have a say in it. We should probably leave it on until it necroses on its own.

Also, wouldnt you telling women to go with midwive's be offering medical advice? Are you qualified to do so? I mean if not that could be a serious lawsuit if someone took your advice and something horrible happened. I mean imagine if a kid was born with congenital heart defect and once the midwife clamped the cord and the ductus arteriosus started closing the baby becomes cyanotic and dies. Wow, thats some pretty heft advice coming from someone who uses google to search for medical advice.

 

[B_dxjnorto]

Hi Baseball,

Most women are capable of natural childbirth. I know some will dispute, but that's inevitable since the medicalization of childbirth for profit some few generations ago.

Like others on the wrong side of this issue you are just recycling nineteenth century (and much much earlier) medical scholarship. Social change is often slow because we must wait on a generation to die off. If your views are indicative of your generation, we have much longer to wait than I had hoped. But I won't give up hope. Genital cutting is under scrutiny now just like civil rights and other forms of child abuse were for other generations. You can be part of the problem or part of the solution.

Discussing genital cutting with you reminds me of my initial expectation that I would be able to inject reason into the same discussion with my sixty-five year old mother and sixty-eight year old father. No point in getting upset. I'll let someone else have a crack at you. I mainly want you and others to know there is a kinder and gentler point of view out there. "Your welcome shapes his world."

Meanwhile, for those of you who may be puzzled about the dynamic in this thread, here's an excellent link:

http://www.alice-miller.com/

The whole site is good--in English, Français and Deutsch. A female friend who was circumcised in the U.S. in the fifties (her mother had Munchausen's by proxy) sent me the link to the second interview, so I read the others. The first interview is short and gets to the point.

Over and out.