Decriminalizing pot!!

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marleyisalegend said:
I know, I'm looking forward to the good stuff, I was just noting that the entire industry wouldn't be based on customer satisfaction, NO product is like that.
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And actually, EVERY product is like that...customer satisfaction is the MOST important aspect of product development, in every organization
 
lucky8 said:
The feds will probably leave this a state issue, as they do with just about everything else.
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They should leave it a state issue. They are trying to intrude into our lives too much already. If they legalize pot, you can bet it's going to have a huge tax on it just like cigs do.


Pot smoking will make you hungry. Man are we going to be swamped with pot bellied potheads?
 
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lucky8 said:
And actually, EVERY product is like that...customer satisfaction is the MOST important aspect of product development, in every organization
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You've GOT to be kidding me. In theory, you're 100% correct, in the real world, it's sometimes PROFIT PROFIT PROFIT. Tell that to people who get food poisoning, or the lead toys from China. Some companies wanna please their customers, others, like Mcdonald's for example, have the comfort of knowing that they've got their niche and can ease up a bit.
 
marleyisalegend said:
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You really think I'm makin' this up don't u? I'm not saying the entire government is anti-poverty, but there are some questionable practices. And isn't it arguable that punishment that only affects people with less money are a bit one-sided? What lesson is learned when a millionaire gets a tap on the wrist and a $50 fine. They tip more than that at Olive Garden.
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I agree, there are some questionable practices, but you also need to look at it from a governmental standpoint: if everyone was rich, no one would have a job, it's a tough situation, but unfortunately it's true.

The fact that it is may be one sided is irrelevant to me. People need to be held accountable for their actions, it's the only way to keep order, plus it's a good way to raise money. Which would you rather have: jailtime, or a ticket? Jailtime is going to cost you and the government more trouble and money than any citation ever will. It's a win-win no matter how much money you have. The state gets money, and you don't get a record.

Like I said before, if you don't have the money to pay for a speeding ticket, then don't speed. Money buys luxuries. It's just like a rich man getting a ticket in his Ferrari. He knows the speed limit, but he has the luxury of being able to speed and pay the fine without it hurting him. Fines need to be a flat fee, he shouldn't have to pay more money just because he has money, and people without money shouldn't get to pay less just because they're broke. It's as fair as it will ever get.
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lucky8 said:
I agree, there are some questionable practices, but you also need to look at it from a governmental standpoint: if everyone was rich, no one would have a job, it's a tough situation, but unfortunately it's true.
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That's VERY true, but if you tell me that the government doesn't sometimes criminalize the lower class, I'm going to stick a rocket up my ass and lite it. Please acknowledge reality.

lucky8 said:
Money buys luxuries.
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That's exactly what I was saying. One of those luxuries is occassional excemption from the law. This is where it gets tricky, isn't it arguable that there really isn't any punishment for the rich sometimes? Not only are the fees laughable to them, sometimes the wheels of justice turn faster for them.

Because I changed addresses, I didn't receive a court summons for a job-related issue. It took me about 13 hours to get booked, 12 to see the judge, and another twelve to be released. Any one of those processes alone equates MORE jail time than 3 celebs with DUIs combined.

I just dunno about legalizing it. For me, to say that it'll encourage good product and reasonable prices is naive. It's ideal, and possible, but the world is full of examples where profit and cost efficiency comes first, the boss bonus comes second, and customer service comes somewhere after those. I've worked retail and customer for 4 years, trust me on this one. A good bulk of the employees could give 2 shits about cust. satisfaction. I just hope that attitude doesn't bleed into the (potential) pot industry. I WANT good prices/product, but I won't hype it up.
 
marleyisalegend said:
You've GOT to be kidding me. In theory, you're 100% correct, in the real world, it's sometimes PROFIT PROFIT PROFIT. Tell that to people who get food poisoning, or the lead toys from China. Some companies wanna please their customers, others, like Mcdonald's for example, have the comfort of knowing that they've got their niche and can ease up a bit.
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Umm no. Even companies like McDonalds care DEEPLY about customer satisfaction. A company can't make a profit without satisfied, loyal customers. It's inevitable that people get food poisoning, it's impossible to inspect every piece of food that is produced and imported into the country. Shit happens, I assure you these companies are shitting bricks right now because of their losses.

Wanna talk McDonalds?...cuz I can go all night. Right now they are currently looking to put 800 restaurants in China. But you know what? They are having to develop new products to SATISFY their Chinese customers in order to help their busniess penetrate this new market. Do you know how these new products come to be? Well first, they get a team of market researchers to research ingredients and food products that the Chinese will like. Once they have identified what they THINK will satisfy their target market, they then spend millions of dollars developing test products, product trials, and test markets. Once this is done, and they have identified specific products that SATISFIED the customers, they begin developing pricing and marketing strageties, and THEN, after investing millions of dollars trying to figure out what their customers want, they introduce the product to the market. If customers aren't satisfied, no one buys it and the product is removed from the menu. Look around, McDonalds' customers are satisfied.

This is true for EVERY production and service company.
 
hootie said:
If they do legalize it, you better smoke it at home, and stay there. You'll still get tons of DUI's from being high. You can get a DUI if you use over the counter sinus medication, and get drowsy.
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Ya but as of now there's no way to tell if someone is high or not. The best they have is "stick out your tongue," if it's white, they assume you're high...hardly evidence. Then there's the mouth swab, but those will test positive up to 3 days after smokin the reefer
 
lucky8 said:
Ya but as of now there's no way to tell if someone is high or not. The best they have is "stick out your tongue," if it's white, they assume you're high...hardly evidence. Then there's the mouth swab, but those will test positive up to 3 days after smokin the reefer
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They will do the field sobriety test just like they do on booze. Walk this line. Close your eyes, hold your hands out to your side, touch your nose. Do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around......
 
lucky8 said:
Ya but as of now there's no way to tell if someone is high or not. The best they have is "stick out your tongue," if it's white, they assume you're high...hardly evidence. Then there's the mouth swab, but those will test positive up to 3 days after smokin the reefer
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I'm sure that, with technology, they'll find a way. Hell, there's a component that stays in ur system for quite some time, they'll find a way to detect it.

I'm sure there will be some burnouts making more intelligent potheads look bad, getting high, crashing cars, etc..
 
marleyisalegend said:
I just dunno about legalizing it. For me, to say that it'll encourage good product and reasonable prices is naive. It's ideal, and possible, but the world is full of examples where profit and cost efficiency comes first, the boss bonus comes second, and customer service comes somewhere after those. I've worked retail and customer for 4 years, trust me on this one. A good bulk of the employees could give 2 shits about cust. satisfaction. I just hope that attitude doesn't bleed into the (potential) pot industry. I WANT good prices/product, but I won't hype it up.
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Dude, we live in country where you can get a cheeseburger for a dollar...pot would be cheaper if it was legal. More people would grow it, which would mean more supply, the demand won't rise nearly as much as supply will because most people already have their minds made up about whether they smoke it or not, legalizing it isn't going to change a lot of minds. As a future entrepreneur, customer service always needs to be outstanding IMO, but as long as a company has a product that is of good value to me, I, as a customer, can overlook poor customer service to fullfill my want or need
 
lucky8 said:
Dude, we live in country where you can get a cheeseburger for a dollar...
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Speaking of, what the fuck happened to those days where they sell for .39 cent?

lucky8 said:
legalizing it isn't going to change a lot of minds.
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True, but I'd like to be there to say "I told ya so" for the minds that do change when it's legalized. And I'm going to hide all the snacks too.

lucky8 said:
As a future entrepreneur
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Since when are pimps "future entrepeneurs"?:cool::tongue:

j/k
 
Alaska decriminalized it in the 70's. (and I haven't had any since the 80's:rolleyes:)

I respect Barney Frank, how about him as the first openly gay veep?
 
I'll toke to that.

Be nice for my hook-up to not have to worry about the cops pulling him over for a public being himself anymore in the hopes of a possession charge.

Goddamn them for being right, anyway.
 
Legalization is not the same as decriminalization. At all. See, it would still be illegal to sell, and probably to grow. But just -owning- wouldn't be an issue.

Unless you were selling.

Even then, they'd probably care lots less.
 
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