Excluding people

[soren10]

I see this happen mainly online in forums and especially on Twitter. Why some people feel the need to exclude others and isolate themselves in their comfort bubble.?

2 years ago there was a huge LGBT movement on Twitter following the fact that members of this community are not fairly represented in media, such as movies and tv shows. There was understanding about this issue from different communities also. Yet some completely stubborn LGBT members were so adamant that just because someone doesn't belong to this community, he or she can't know how it's like to be treated badly. Some , a minority, even demanded that the LGBT community doesn't need any ally. I see this happen Here, sorry but the motion that it's mandatory to be part of a community or a demographic to know anything about said social group , is just silly.

 

[malakos]

Look at it this way, if I talk up how tough it is to be a homosexual and how people who are not homosexuals cannot fathom what that experience is like, then I can make easily justifiable (and not easily scrutinizable) demands from society of what support, allowances, dispensations, and privileges I need as a consequence of that experience, can't I?

 

[MickeyLee]

privilege is so hard *sad face goes here*

welcome to the exclusion every other demographic on the planet experiences on a daily basis.

 

[soren10]

I wouldn't call it a privilege. Most people struggle in life.

Also if you have faced exclusion, wouldn't be more wise to not exclude people yourself. ( in general not you specific ).Why prolong a problem by being a part of it ?

 

[TexanStar]

I see this happen mainly online in forums and especially on Twitter. Why some people feel the need to exclude others and isolate themselves in their comfort bubble.?

2 years ago there was a huge LGBT movement on Twitter following the fact that members of this community are not fairly represented in media, such as movies and tv shows. There was understanding about this issue from different communities also. Yet some completely stubborn LGBT members were so adamant that just because someone doesn't belong to this community, he or she can't know how it's like to be treated badly. Some , a minority, even demanded that the LGBT community doesn't need any ally. I see this happen Here, sorry but the motion that it's mandatory to be part of a community or a demographic to know anything about said social group , is just silly.

Without context, it's difficult to really say what you're talking about.

I am not a woman, but I speak out on issues of equal treatment for women, but at the same time I don't give my opinion on let's say... "what movie would women find inspiring", cuz fuck if I know, I'm not a woman

 

[soren10]

The context was that LGBT characters in movies are treated badly and almost always don't have A happy ending. There was a movement to change that from the LGBT community and there were allies from straight people supporting this community and wanting to help with fair representation and the rights in general and some people of said community were adamant against any people , that were not part of this community, that wanted to help.

 

[MickeyLee]

Maybe people outside of the community need to check the type of "help" they are providing. Sometimes you do have to walk a mile in someone's shoes to understand their needs and provide accordingly.

And sometimes people who are accustomed to being the center of the universe need to accept the back seat and not be big pouty babies about it.

 

[soren10]

Sorry but I disagree. People face injustice and struggle. It's nice that they want to make other people's lives better. No need to face the exact same struggle. Help is always a nice and thoughtful move, if the motives are good that is.

 

[MickeyLee]

*sigh* of course, you don't.

 

[soren10]

I welcome to be corrected when wrong. Feel free to point me what of my last post seems wrong to you.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

Sorry but I disagree. People face injustice and struggle. It's nice that they want to make other people's lives better. No need to face the exact same struggle. Help is always a nice and thoughtful move, if the motives are good that is.

Yeah, people face Injustices. Some on a much larger scale than others because of institutionalized discrimination.

She's not wrong. You're not "correcting" her.

 

[MickeyLee]

You don't welcome being corrected. You have been repeatedly told by marginalized peoples that you do not understand what it's like to not be white, cis and heterosexual and that you will never know. Each time you respond the same way "no, you are wrong"

the *sigh* was resignation to the fact that you will continue to make these threads. You will continue to ignore contrary opinions. That you will remain a white boy, offended that his input is not valued. Because at your heart, your privilege has taught you that your voice has more authority than any other voice.

 

[soren10]

Now that I think about it we are both right in our own way.

 

[soren10]

Well that's an injust stereotype. Be better than the people that don't get you. Correct the problem don't be part of it.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

Well that's an injust stereotype. Be better than the people that don't get you. Correct the problem don't be part of it.

The problem, soren, is that when people try to give you perspective you basically shove it back at them and tell them it's wrong and that You're the one with the correct opinion.

It's a regular thing with you. You don't even see it.

 

[soren10]

Ok you may be right but as she has stated she has been marginalised and mistreated in her life. If she does the same. Won't that mean that she's unwilling to do her part towards the end of social group exclusion ? If we want society to change first we should change ourselves. Right ?

 

[693987]

I welcome to be corrected when wrong.

This is one of the most funny and untrue posts I've seen on here in a long time. It's right up there with the people who claim they have fucked someone with an 18" long penis.

 

[soren10]

Also I am not the one saying that her social group is a bad thing. She paints white straight guys as the villains of the story. People want to blame my group for everything.

 

[soren10]

There is a word that describes what you want white straight men to endure, it's called vengeance. By wanting that you are no better than people that did you wrong. Be better be the change you want. As simple as that. Do to people what you want people to do to you.

 

[TexanStar]

There is a word that describes what you want white straight men to endure, it's called vengeance.