Dong, Sorry you haver such a hard time, here. I'm finished with this discussion. You ignore what I say, and then toss out all the flak that you started with, and then bitch to me like a little girl complaining over 1.17 versus 1.63, and not even recognizing that the difference is between the number of days claimed for the war, by different liberal sources.
If you were using your head, you'd be able to agree (and I include "Freddie" and the Madame in this comment, too) that our casualties in Iraq, OR in both Afghanistan and Iraq are extremely low! We have our active generals and Rumsfeld to thank for that! They chose the right plan, and they did it right!
But you guys are kinda nuts, in my opinion. You ignore the point, and you go off on a toot about little bitty stuff to take exceptions with. You aren't big enough to admit anything, much less that you're wrong.
So Madame, if this is how the great unwashed speak, then I'll have to say you have SOME OPINION of your neighbors, girl! In your mind, they all stink!
And I'll tell you all this: You do NOT support your troops if yyou don't agree with them, or agree with their mission, or share in their pride, or respect their leadership, or love the civilian Iraqi people, or appreciate our country's ability to liberate them from a tyrant.
Now I'm sure you're going to object to that, and you should, but you can't say you haven't shown those feelings, over and over again, and Madame, whether you know it or not, you just called our occupational forces in Iraq "The Great Unwashed" too, since they will largely agree with me, and NOT because they are forced to (as you want to believe).
You guys want to take the communist viewpoint. Be my guest. Trash us, and belittle our military. Call us "Imperialists" Freddie. You are just letting everybody with good sense know who you really are. You don't even understand the meaning of the term!
I think you're all very anti-American, as far as our great commission is concerned. We have a huge responsibility and we put our lives on the line to protect everyone. And we owe a great debt to our fighting men. Without them, we would be toast! But while you give them your lip, they know damn-well you don't mean it. You're steeped in hypocrisy. You talk out of both sides of your mouths, and you gang together like vultures.
I think the vast majority here agree with me, and it's not worth the effort to argue the point further when you will not acknowledge the facts presented, or even dare mention General DeLong's comments which I pasted. I have plenty more, like an official statement from the Joint Chiefs who take on these turn-tail renegage generals and totally destroy them, but to post that to you would be a waste of time. You love your opinions, you love to gang up, you ignore the facts, you dismiss the points, and you harrangue the small stuff.
I'm forgeting this thread. And to anybody else, I'll just remind them of the old adage: "Don't argue with idiots. Nobody will be able to tell the difference."