Is there really still a "circumsized is better" culture?

[Gj816]

As an adult I did hear that uncircumcised penis's caused cervical cancer. Didn't pay much attention to it because It didn't really affect me.


Spread of HPV

By Salynn Boyles
This article is from the WebMD News Archive

This content has not been reviewed within the past year and may not represent WebMD's most up-to-date information.



Jan. 6, 2011 -- Circumcising men can reduce cervical cancer risk in women, a new study shows.

The study involved more than 1,200 HIV-negative, heterosexual couples living in Uganda, where circumcision of male adults is increasingly encouraged as a means of slowing the spread of HIV/AIDS.

Half the men received the surgical procedure at enrollment and the other half were scheduled for circumcision after their participation in the trial ended.

Two years later, the female partners of the men who remained uncircumcised were more likely than the partners of the circumcised men to be infected with human papilloma virus (HPV) types most often associated with cervical cancer.




In earlier trials, Johns Hopkins University researcher Aaron A.R. Tobian, MD, PhD, and colleagues showed that male circumcision reduces HIV infection, HPV in men, and genital herpes.

The new study appears online Friday in TheLancet.


“It is now clear that male circumcision can reduce HPV in females and possibly prevent cervical cancer in settings where HPV vaccines are not available,” Tobian tells WebMD.

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Circumcision Rate Drops in U.S.
The impact of circumcision on cervical cancer risk is less clear in the U.S. and other industrialized countries where cervical cancer screening is routine, says Anna Giuliano, MD, who chairs the department of cancer epidemiology at H. Lee Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa, Fla.

But she adds that the recent research confirming circumcision’s role in reducing the risk of HIV, HPV, and other sexually transmitted diseases are strong arguments in favor of the practice.

Neither the CDC nor the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) recommend routine circumcision of male infants, but the groups do not discourage the practice either.



New figures from CDC released in August confirm that fewer babies in the U.S. are being circumcised. Between 2006 and 2009, the circumcision rate among male newborns declined from 56% to 33%.

Both the CDC and the AAP are reportedly considering revisions to their infant circumcision policies in light of the new research.

The CDC is also considering whether circumcision should be recommended for adult men at high risk for HIV infection, according to a statement issued in August 2009.

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It has been five years since the AAP last updated its infant circumcision policy, which calls the evidence regarding the impact of circumcision on sexually transmitted disease risk “complex and conflicting.”

The studies by Tobian and colleagues were published after 2005, and Giuliano says the AAP policy statement should be changed to reflect the new research.

Circumcision Debate Emotionally Charged
But Giuliano does not believe policy makers for either group will take a strong stand in favor of male circumcision because the debate surrounding the practice is so emotionally charged.



In an editorial accompanying the study, she writes that new recommendations “should be consistent with the available evidence while considering other factors such as cultural and disease context, and the specific needs of different populations.”

“Different cultures view circumcision in different ways, and there is a huge emotional component” she tells WebMD. “People in Latin America think of circumcision as barbaric. I have even heard this from colleagues in HPV prevention.”

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Circumcision is also not widely practiced in certain countries in Europe, but cervical cancer rates are very low in these countries because screening is common.

Cervical cancer rates are very high in countries like Mexico and Brazil, where neither circumcision nor screening is widespread.

She says in parts of Africa where circumcision is considered a rite of passage, the practice may make a big difference, especially in areas without access to the HPV vaccine.

 

[MisterVIP]

I would argue that the preference is learnt though, the porn industry, peers, family etc all perpetuate it. If people get bullied for it or are told one is better they will naturally develop a preference regardless off the reality of the fact.

Intact males are becoming more and more common in porn, so you can't blame the porn industry for perpetuating pro-circumcision stuff anymore.

 

[cockydude2018]

In response to another post that I won't name but reading the comments I have a genuine questions.

Is there really still a stigma these days?

In my opinion its getting a little ridiculous if people are still opting in for cosmetic circumcision because they choose to believe it looks better.

In my opinion, it seems ridiculous for you to presume that there are so few people who find circumcised cocks more attractive.

 

[cockydude2018]

As an adult I did hear that uncircumcised penis's caused cervical cancer. Didn't pay much attention to it because It didn't really affect me.


Spread of HPV

By Salynn Boyles
This article is from the WebMD News Archive

This content has not been reviewed within the past year and may not represent WebMD's most up-to-date information.



Jan. 6, 2011 -- Circumcising men can reduce cervical cancer risk in women, a new study shows.

The study involved more than 1,200 HIV-negative, heterosexual couples living in Uganda, where circumcision of male adults is increasingly encouraged as a means of slowing the spread of HIV/AIDS.

Half the men received the surgical procedure at enrollment and the other half were scheduled for circumcision after their participation in the trial ended.

Two years later, the female partners of the men who remained uncircumcised were more likely than the partners of the circumcised men to be infected with human papilloma virus (HPV) types most often associated with cervical cancer.

Richard Burton was circumcised very late in life for the benefit of his wife, Elizabeth Taylor. To avoid cervical cancer.


In earlier trials, Johns Hopkins University researcher Aaron A.R. Tobian, MD, PhD, and colleagues showed that male circumcision reduces HIV infection, HPV in men, and genital herpes.

The new study appears online Friday in TheLancet.


“It is now clear that male circumcision can reduce HPV in females and possibly prevent cervical cancer in settings where HPV vaccines are not available,” Tobian tells WebMD.

CONTINUE READING BELOW






Circumcision Rate Drops in U.S.
The impact of circumcision on cervical cancer risk is less clear in the U.S. and other industrialized countries where cervical cancer screening is routine, says Anna Giuliano, MD, who chairs the department of cancer epidemiology at H. Lee Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa, Fla.

But she adds that the recent research confirming circumcision’s role in reducing the risk of HIV, HPV, and other sexually transmitted diseases are strong arguments in favor of the practice.

Neither the CDC nor the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) recommend routine circumcision of male infants, but the groups do not discourage the practice either.



New figures from CDC released in August confirm that fewer babies in the U.S. are being circumcised. Between 2006 and 2009, the circumcision rate among male newborns declined from 56% to 33%.

Both the CDC and the AAP are reportedly considering revisions to their infant circumcision policies in light of the new research.

The CDC is also considering whether circumcision should be recommended for adult men at high risk for HIV infection, according to a statement issued in August 2009.

CONTINUE READING BELOW







It has been five years since the AAP last updated its infant circumcision policy, which calls the evidence regarding the impact of circumcision on sexually transmitted disease risk “complex and conflicting.”

The studies by Tobian and colleagues were published after 2005, and Giuliano says the AAP policy statement should be changed to reflect the new research.

Circumcision Debate Emotionally Charged
But Giuliano does not believe policy makers for either group will take a strong stand in favor of male circumcision because the debate surrounding the practice is so emotionally charged.



In an editorial accompanying the study, she writes that new recommendations “should be consistent with the available evidence while considering other factors such as cultural and disease context, and the specific needs of different populations.”

“Different cultures view circumcision in different ways, and there is a huge emotional component” she tells WebMD. “People in Latin America think of circumcision as barbaric. I have even heard this from colleagues in HPV prevention.”

CONTINUE READING BELOW






Circumcision is also not widely practiced in certain countries in Europe, but cervical cancer rates are very low in these countries because screening is common.

Cervical cancer rates are very high in countries like Mexico and Brazil, where neither circumcision nor screening is widespread.

She says in parts of Africa where circumcision is considered a rite of passage, the practice may make a big difference, especially in areas without access to the HPV vaccine.

 

[MisterVIP]

Are there really still people who can't spell circumcision, circumcised, uncircumcised?

 

[data]

One of the dumbest reason I've ever seen in print for circumcision was by a guy who had it done and proclaimed "no more washing my penis every day." Oh, really?

 

[ItsAll4Kim]

Turning it around, who are YOU or anyone else, who feels they have the right to permanently alter their children’s genitalia?

Chopping of body parts unnecessarily isn’t respecting diversity, it respecting needless amputation. Subtracting religious. And the people working to restore are the ones who should have had a say.

You failed to answer MY question, but I will answer yours. Parents have all of the responsibility, so they have the authority. If a religious belief directs them to have circumcision performed, if their doctor advises them to do so, it is within their power and right. And it is their business, not yours or mine.

Now you can answer my question.

 

[1141702]

You failed to answer MY question, but I will answer yours. Parents have all of the responsibility, so they have the authority. If a religious belief directs them to have circumcision performed, if their doctor advises them to do so, it is within their power and right. And it is their business, not yours or mine

Now you can answer my question.

They shouldn’t have that choice, what’s so hard to understand? Just because it happens doesn’t mean it’s right. Barring religious reasons, which I think are wrong, but accept.

That’s the whole damn point.

 

[Jonsmith40]

It was awkward and a little sad how we were approached to have our son circumcised. We had declined about 5 separate occasions during our stay. The first instance, they had him picked up and half way out the door as a second nurse shoved a clipboard with the paperwork in my wife's face waiting for a signature. Their only response was they assumed we wanted it done.

 

[1141702]

It was awkward and a little sad how we were approached to have our son circumcised. We had declined about 5 separate occasions during our stay. The first instance, they had him picked up and half way out the door as a second nurse shoved a clipboard with the paperwork in my wife's face waiting for a signature. Their only response was they assumed we wanted it done.

Sounds about right.

 

[554279]

Are there really still people who can't spell circumcision, circumcised, uncircumcised?

I try to get close and then use spell check. The little red underline thing helps me immensely, as being uncut also causes me spelling issues.

 

[554279]

One of the dumbest reason I've ever seen in print for circumcision was by a guy who had it done and proclaimed "no more washing my penis every day." Oh, really?

Guess you know which guys drive up those medical statistics for spreading unsavory organisms

 

[622675]

Personally I greatly prefer circumcision on men. I prefer it for my self and as a gay guy who is into oral. But who could defend it for females, only the ACLU and the Islamic religion.
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ACLU caught in the middle of a bad decision.

“ACLU Opposes Maine Bill Criminalizing Female Genital Mutilation,” by Anders Hagstrom, Daily Caller, May 26, 2017

“Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female) (by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male, but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the bazr ‘clitoris’ [this is called khufaadh ‘female circumcision’]).” — ‘Umdat al-Salik e4.3, translated by Mark Durie, The Third Choice, p. 64

Why is it obligatory? Because Muhammad is held to have said so: “Abu al- Malih ibn Usama’s father relates that the Prophet said: ‘Circumcision is a law for men and a preservation of honour for women.’” — Ahmad Ibn Hanbal 5:75
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Some technical thinking if you are in to oral. Gay guys are starting to show up with a version of throat cancer caused by HPV in other men.

How does circumcision offer an advantage in reducing the risk of HPV in men?

Most of the penis is covered by keratinized epithelium that is typical of most other parts of the body. Keratinized epithelium, which has an outer layer of dead cells called the stratum corneum, offers many advantages for protection against viral infections. It is more durable and less likely to tear, so it offers a physical barrier between pathogens and the inside of the body, as well as various chemical defenses against infection and dead outer layers that are constantly being shed, taking any external pathogens with them.

However, the inner foreskin has a mucosal lining that is not keratinized, therefore more prone to minute tearing and infection. This mucosal inner surface is pulled back and exposed during intercourse and made susceptible to the transmission of HPV and other viruses. Circumcision reduces the mucosal surface area, thereby potentially minimizing the interface for abrasion and transmission of viruses.

 

[554279]

As an adult I did hear that uncircumcised penis's caused cervical cancer. Didn't pay much attention to it because It didn't really affect me.


Spread of HPV

By Salynn Boyles
This article is from the WebMD News Archive

This content has not been reviewed within the past year and may not represent WebMD's most up-to-date information.



Jan. 6, 2011 -- Circumcising men can reduce cervical cancer risk in women, a new study shows.

The study involved more than 1,200 HIV-negative, heterosexual couples living in Uganda, where circumcision of male adults is increasingly encouraged as a means of slowing the spread of HIV/AIDS.

Half the men received the surgical procedure at enrollment and the other half were scheduled for circumcision after their participation in the trial ended.

Two years later, the female partners of the men who remained uncircumcised were more likely than the partners of the circumcised men to be infected with human papilloma virus (HPV) types most often associated with cervical cancer.




In earlier trials, Johns Hopkins University researcher Aaron A.R. Tobian, MD, PhD, and colleagues showed that male circumcision reduces HIV infection, HPV in men, and genital herpes.

The new study appears online Friday in TheLancet.


“It is now clear that male circumcision can reduce HPV in females and possibly prevent cervical cancer in settings where HPV vaccines are not available,” Tobian tells WebMD.


circumcision is also not widely practiced in certain countries in Europe, but cervical cancer rates are very low in these countries because screening is common.

Cervical cancer rates are very high in countries like Mexico and Brazil, where neither circumcision nor screening is widespread.

She says in parts of Africa where circumcision is considered a rite of passage, the practice may make a big difference, especially in areas without access to the HPV vaccine.

Cervical screening is probably more critical than the act of snipping dicks in reducing the cancer rates in females in most countries. Amazing there is technology to scam some one on e-mail hoaxes from the deepest part of Nigeria and Uganda but no place to wash your dick...just saying

The HPV line and herpes line are comical, at best. Look at the statistics for US service members contracting both viruses during the height of the US docked dicks and they would blow this theory to shit (if its' like Agent Orange that smoking gun is probably gone).

I worked with a medical treatment facility at one point in the 80's and can tell you the majority of dicks based on the age demographic (19 to 23 being born in the US in the 60's) being seen were cut, and they were being ravaged by herpes and assorted other nastiness. The cut or uncut status of the dick had nothing to do with the fact that 1) the troops were in an environment where being highly promiscuous was possible 2) protection was not used and 3) poor hygiene occurred due to the time of exposure vice when the individual went back to base to wash his nasty ass.

As an added complicating factor the command would restrict the troops under "quarantine" thereby causing the serious cock hounds to "self medicate" exposing more of the hookers and additional troops to the diseases.

If being cut works for you great, if not also great. I respect anyone's right to be cut but those same folks shouldn't bandy about conjecture because they believe circumcision is the silver bullet (it's not).

The medical community should look at curing cancer and knock off the bullshit quick fixes that add $400 (<- note not an accurate number, just one pulled from my ass) to a child birth cost that is not covered by an HMO and saying "look if we do this to males, females will be fine".

For all my brothers wash your cock whether cut or uncut, every day as often as possible, to promote getting head by your suitable partners if nothing else.

 

[1141702]

Cervical screening is probably more critical than the act of snipping dicks in reducing the cancer rates in females in most countries. Amazing there is technology to scam some one on e-mail hoaxes from the deepest part of Nigeria and Uganda but no place to wash your dick...just saying

The HPV line and herpes line are comical, at best. Look at the statistics for US service members contracting both viruses during the height of the US docked dicks and they would blow this theory to shit (if its' like Agent Orange that smoking gun is probably gone).

I worked with a medical treatment facility at one point in the 80's and can tell you the majority of dicks based on the age demographic (19 to 23 being born in the US in the 60's) being seen were cut, and they were being ravaged by herpes and assorted other nastiness. The cut or uncut status of the dick had nothing to do with the fact that 1) the troops were in an environment where being highly promiscuous was possible 2) protection was not used and 3) poor hygiene occurred due to the time of exposure vice when the individual went back to base to wash his nasty ass.

As an added complicating factor the command would restrict the troops under "quarantine" thereby causing the serious cock hounds to "self medicate" exposing more of the hookers and additional troops to the diseases.

If being cut works for you great, if not also great. I respect anyone's right to be cut but those same folks shouldn't bandy about conjecture because they believe circumcision is the silver bullet (it's not).

The medical community should look at curing cancer and knock off the bullshit quick fixes that add $400 (<- note not an accurate number, just one pulled from my ass) to a child birth cost that is not covered by an HMO and saying "look if we do this to males, females will be fine".

For all my brothers wash your cock whether cut or uncut, every day as often as possible, to promote getting head by your suitable partners if nothing else.

It’s almost like people think the entire world is cut and if not, rushing to get it done, isn’t it?

 

[cityson]

They shouldn’t have that choice, what’s so hard to understand? Just because it happens doesn’t mean it’s right. Barring religious reasons, which I think are wrong, but accept.

That’s the whole damn point.

Hear, hear. As part of any parent's responsibility is to protect the child from harm. And this includes circumcision. It is all about what is best for the child, not what is best for the religion/belief. Getting cut or not is the business of the owner of the penis, when he is old enough to have an opinion and make a decision.

 

[southernguy478]

Hear, hear. As part of any parent's responsibility is to protect the child from harm. And this includes circumcision. It is all about what is best for the child, not what is best for the religion/belief. Getting cut or not is the business of the owner of the penis, when he is old enough to have an opinion and make a decision.

Yep and that's just what I did. I left my son's intact so they could decide and it was a split decision . One decided to get circumcised between high school and college at age 18 and he us now 24. The other is 27 and never considered get circumcised.

 

[cityson]

Yep and that's just what I did. I left my son's intact so they could decide and it was a split decision . One decided to get circumcised between high school and college at age 18 and he us now 24. The other is 27 and never considered get circumcised.

Glad to hear that, Southern. Respect!

 

[1141702]

Glad to hear that, Southern. Respect!

AGREED.

 

[ItsAll4Kim]

They shouldn’t have that choice, what’s so hard to understand? Just because it happens doesn’t mean it’s right. Barring religious reasons, which I think are wrong, but accept.

That’s the whole damn point.

Ohhh......now it's a *damn* point.
You still haven't answered my question: who are you to tell anyone else how to raise their family?

Whether any other man is circumcised or not has no influence or bearing on your life. You could be the only uncircumcised man on the planet, or there could be only one circumcised man on the planet....still doesn't affect your life at all. Whether for religious reasons, health issues, or simply because they want to, someone else's son is not your responsibility, not your decision, not your right. You don't get to say what they should have the choice to do.