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Hi Mizz S. Pretty interesting answers. LOL--yes it was time to quit when guys began showing up at your home or your nephew's friends found your website!!
I was not surprised that you mentioned the large number of men interested in cam'ing with you. My perception is that many (most?) men are attracted to trans women, or at least interested in them. And I'm just not saying that.
For me, it is very similar to white guys and black women. In public, white guys will often act like they would never have anything to do with a black woman. But in private, they can't stop talking about how pretty, sexy the black women are. There is still considerable societal pressure against inter-racial relationships.(I know, sad but true). What will my family think if I bring home a black woman?
It's a similar thing with trans women. In a private setting, I believe most men will admit that they find trans women attractive. The same men will deny the interest or attraction when in a group--all because of fear on what their family, friends, co-workers will think. I have seen and felt these fears and pressures myself while dating both black and trans women. Its a shame, but there it is.
Hopefully things are changing and we can all continue to move forward. Thanks again for the response. Have a great day.


haha I totally agree. I have enver been turned down for sex ;) and thats all I will say!
 

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My name is Savannah and I am a 28 year old trans woman, former adult entertainer, and a trans activist in Canada. I have noticed that the lpsg community is actually very pro trans but sometimes the guys here are fed a bit too much trans idealism through porn that kinda makes them have very diluted views on what being trans is. So I thought i would help all you guys out and just give you some info so it might help you broaden your views on trans, understand it a bit better and maybe help you finally meet a trans woman! This Obvi isn't just for the people attracted to trans women, this is for everyone ^.^ Just here to help!

1. Please stop comparing trans women to famous porn actresses. Expecting all trans women to look like porn stars is like expecting all women to look like Jenna Jameson ( prior to the freaky plastic surgery. LOL). its an unreal expectation. Trans women come in all shapes and sizes, some are passable, some aren't, some have giant fake boobs, most have natural small boobs brought on by estrogen pills! Expecting all trans women to have big fake boobs, a fake ass and enough face work to make Cher jelly is kinda silly :p A womans worth isn't based on the amount of plastic surgeries she has :)

2. The porn thing brings me to the next thing. There are many word in the world that are considered offensive to certain demographics and shouldn't be used. The "N" word for Black people, the F*G word for Homosexuals, etc etc etc. With Trans women there are certain words that were created by the Adult industry to market and dehumanize trans women. These words, although reclaimed by some trans women, are considered highly offensive. If you are wanting to befriend, talk or even bone a trans woman never call them trans, trans, Ladyboi, HeShe or Chick with a dick. Your more likely to get a good old fashioned "That's So Raven" side eye then get laid when using those! Just be respectful. The terms that are generally ok are trans and tgirl. WE generally prefer you call us by our names and not our gender. LOL

3. Trans people have been around since the dawn of time. In native american cultures long before Jesus roamed this earth, many people were trans and called two spirited. These people where considered high ranking people in tribes and were often married to Men (or women depending on their preference). Here is a cool article about trans people throughout the different times! Check it out!!
Transgender History: Trans Expression in Ancient Times | The Bilerico Project

4, That brings me to the next thing. Men who like trans women are not in the slightest bit gay. Most aren't even Bi. They are very much straight. there have been quite a few studies on Men who are into trans women as of late. Basically it boils down to this.. trans women.. are women. Men who like them are attracted to the femininity of them and are open minded enough to get past the junk in the front. LOL.

5. DON'T BE TRANSPHOBIC! Wait? Oh you like trans women.. or you don't have anything against them? Your a huge lgbt supporter? AWESOME! So why do you shame men who are into trans women into feeling they are less of a man for being into trans women? WHOA! bet you didn't know that's considered trans-phobia! A recent study showed that searching for trans porn is one of the top searched porn types for heterosexual men! So its very much normal. Societies views on men who like trans women hasn't really changed since the 1950's. Men feel the need to hide their attraction to trans women in the closet and keep it a deep dark secret. Stop trans shaming men or it will never get any better. ^.^ And believe it or not a lot of the trans shaming comes from women who are all like " Oh mike is dating jen, did you know she is trans! Does that make Mike Gay. OMG that nasty"
really girl? What are you 12? SHOW SOME LOVE!

Anyways that's a bit of my two cents! LOL. If you have any questions let me know ^.^ I will prolly add more stuff in the future but this is a lot to read already!

I want to meet a TS, but then I'm not sure if i could date one. Only because i know my family/friends won't like it. but then TSs are cute, and no not all look like Mia Isabella (which would be nice...:biggrin1:)
 

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I want to meet a TS, but then I'm not sure if i could date one. Only because i know my family/friends won't like it. but then TSs are cute, and no not all look like Mia Isabella (which would be nice...:biggrin1:)

I think it will soon be acceptable in most social circles to date a trans woman, or man. I think its jsut gonna take a bit of time for some people to get used to it. But you do have to make a choice to live the live you want, or live the life your family wants.
 

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Its not whats on the outside that makes you who you are, its whats on the inside..unfortunately, most never look inside a person
 

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Miss Summers, my transdaughter is attracted to women. How tough will her road be?
Is there a stigma that transwomen are still XY and therefore men within most lesbian communities that you know of?
I know politically it's an issue (and one reason I want to bop many new feminists on the head and say all women are welcome.
 

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I think it will soon be acceptable in most social circles to date a trans woman, or man. I think its jsut gonna take a bit of time for some people to get used to it. But you do have to make a choice to live the live you want, or live the life your family wants.
True. But then psrents are forever....and dating and even marriage can breakdown.
 

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Just to throw this out there... How do friends and family know? Do they do a junk check?
One of my best friends married awoman. (Due to laws at the time, it was a commitment ceremony). A decade later, she divorced a man. It was kind of obvious when Hannah became hairy and boyish, and announced in a very deep voice that his new name was Enoch. (Names have been changed for privacy). We have all wondered if the jackass my friend married was always an asshole, or if the hormones affected him negatively. We didn't have a lot of time to get to know him before the transition. We wanted to like him, but our friend was always stressed out after they married. Anyway. That's how we knew. We watched the whole thing.
 
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Ok, I look at it this way, what's under somebody's clothing isn't my business.
It's how some schools in the US handle trans students, by getting that into other student's heads.

People who get to know your trans partner will like them (or not) for their personality, viewpoints, etc.
if they wouldn't judge a Cis female partner on say, a mole on her hip (something that shouldn't be an issue, or that often exposed) why would they judge a trans partner for genitalia?
Unless it's family discussing children, it's no ones business. Even in India.
 
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My name is Savannah and I am a 28 year old trans woman, former adult entertainer, and a trans activist in Canada. I have noticed that the lpsg community is actually very pro trans but sometimes the guys here are fed a bit too much trans idealism through porn that kinda makes them have very diluted views on what being trans is. So I thought i would help all you guys out and just give you some info so it might help you broaden your views on trans, understand it a bit better and maybe help you finally meet a trans woman! This Obvi isn't just for the people attracted to trans women, this is for everyone ^.^ Just here to help!

1. Please stop comparing trans women to famous porn actresses. Expecting all trans women to look like porn stars is like expecting all women to look like Jenna Jameson ( prior to the freaky plastic surgery. LOL). its an unreal expectation. Trans women come in all shapes and sizes, some are passable, some aren't, some have giant fake boobs, most have natural small boobs brought on by estrogen pills! Expecting all trans women to have big fake boobs, a fake ass and enough face work to make Cher jelly is kinda silly :p A womans worth isn't based on the amount of plastic surgeries she has :)

2. The porn thing brings me to the next thing. There are many word in the world that are considered offensive to certain demographics and shouldn't be used. The "N" word for Black people, the F*G word for Homosexuals, etc etc etc. With Trans women there are certain words that were created by the Adult industry to market and dehumanize trans women. These words, although reclaimed by some trans women, are considered highly offensive. If you are wanting to befriend, talk or even bone a trans woman never call them trans, trans, Ladyboi, HeShe or Chick with a dick. Your more likely to get a good old fashioned "That's So Raven" side eye then get laid when using those! Just be respectful. The terms that are generally ok are trans and tgirl. WE generally prefer you call us by our names and not our gender. LOL

3. Trans people have been around since the dawn of time. In native american cultures long before Jesus roamed this earth, many people were trans and called two spirited. These people where considered high ranking people in tribes and were often married to Men (or women depending on their preference). Here is a cool article about trans people throughout the different times! Check it out!!
Transgender History: Trans Expression in Ancient Times | The Bilerico Project

4, That brings me to the next thing. Men who like trans women are not in the slightest bit gay. Most aren't even Bi. They are very much straight. there have been quite a few studies on Men who are into trans women as of late. Basically it boils down to this.. trans women.. are women. Men who like them are attracted to the femininity of them and are open minded enough to get past the junk in the front. LOL.

5. DON'T BE TRANSPHOBIC! Wait? Oh you like trans women.. or you don't have anything against them? Your a huge lgbt supporter? AWESOME! So why do you shame men who are into trans women into feeling they are less of a man for being into trans women? WHOA! bet you didn't know that's considered trans-phobia! A recent study showed that searching for trans porn is one of the top searched porn types for heterosexual men! So its very much normal. Societies views on men who like trans women hasn't really changed since the 1950's. Men feel the need to hide their attraction to trans women in the closet and keep it a deep dark secret. Stop trans shaming men or it will never get any better. ^.^ And believe it or not a lot of the trans shaming comes from women who are all like " Oh mike is dating jen, did you know she is trans! Does that make Mike Gay. OMG that nasty"
really girl? What are you 12? SHOW SOME LOVE!

Anyways that's a bit of my two cents! LOL. If you have any questions let me know ^.^ I will prolly add more stuff in the future but this is a lot to read already!


Let me add something that i think people have to carry as a tatoo.

People have to show transgender people much more respect! Just as simple!
 

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My name is Savannah and I am a 28 year old trans woman, former adult entertainer, and a trans activist in Canada. I have noticed that the lpsg community is actually very pro trans but sometimes the guys here are fed a bit too much trans idealism through porn that kinda makes them have very diluted views on what being trans is. So I thought i would help all you guys out and just give you some info so it might help you broaden your views on trans, understand it a bit better and maybe help you finally meet a trans woman! This Obvi isn't just for the people attracted to trans women, this is for everyone ^.^ Just here to help!

1. Please stop comparing trans women to famous porn actresses. Expecting all trans women to look like porn stars is like expecting all women to look like Jenna Jameson ( prior to the freaky plastic surgery. LOL). its an unreal expectation. Trans women come in all shapes and sizes, some are passable, some aren't, some have giant fake boobs, most have natural small boobs brought on by estrogen pills! Expecting all trans women to have big fake boobs, a fake ass and enough face work to make Cher jelly is kinda silly :p A womans worth isn't based on the amount of plastic surgeries she has :)

2. The porn thing brings me to the next thing. There are many word in the world that are considered offensive to certain demographics and shouldn't be used. The "N" word for Black people, the F*G word for Homosexuals, etc etc etc. With Trans women there are certain words that were created by the Adult industry to market and dehumanize trans women. These words, although reclaimed by some trans women, are considered highly offensive. If you are wanting to befriend, talk or even bone a trans woman never call them trans, trans, Ladyboi, HeShe or Chick with a dick. Your more likely to get a good old fashioned "That's So Raven" side eye then get laid when using those! Just be respectful. The terms that are generally ok are trans and tgirl. WE generally prefer you call us by our names and not our gender. LOL

3. Trans people have been around since the dawn of time. In native american cultures long before Jesus roamed this earth, many people were trans and called two spirited. These people where considered high ranking people in tribes and were often married to Men (or women depending on their preference). Here is a cool article about trans people throughout the different times! Check it out!!
Transgender History: Trans Expression in Ancient Times | The Bilerico Project

4, That brings me to the next thing. Men who like trans women are not in the slightest bit gay. Most aren't even Bi. They are very much straight. there have been quite a few studies on Men who are into trans women as of late. Basically it boils down to this.. trans women.. are women. Men who like them are attracted to the femininity of them and are open minded enough to get past the junk in the front. LOL.

5. DON'T BE TRANSPHOBIC! Wait? Oh you like trans women.. or you don't have anything against them? Your a huge lgbt supporter? AWESOME! So why do you shame men who are into trans women into feeling they are less of a man for being into trans women? WHOA! bet you didn't know that's considered trans-phobia! A recent study showed that searching for trans porn is one of the top searched porn types for heterosexual men! So its very much normal. Societies views on men who like trans women hasn't really changed since the 1950's. Men feel the need to hide their attraction to trans women in the closet and keep it a deep dark secret. Stop trans shaming men or it will never get any better. ^.^ And believe it or not a lot of the trans shaming comes from women who are all like " Oh mike is dating jen, did you know she is trans! Does that make Mike Gay. OMG that nasty"
really girl? What are you 12? SHOW SOME LOVE!

Anyways that's a bit of my two cents! LOL. If you have any questions let me know ^.^ I will prolly add more stuff in the future but this is a lot to read already!


I honestly find it fascinating and confusing when a man who identifies as "straight" has a preference for trans-women. Many of these men prefer that the "junk in the front" still be in tact. I just can't get my brain the idea that this is "straight sex." I vote we just call it "sex" and let it rest there.
 

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I honestly find it fascinating and confusing when a man who identifies as "straight" has a preference for trans-women. Many of these men prefer that the "junk in the front" still be in tact. I just can't get my brain the idea that this is "straight sex." I vote we just call it "sex" and let it rest there.
I think I understand the point you are trying to make---and am not trying to argue---but what does it really matter why or what people want to "label" someone who is attracted to or has a "preference" for trans women? People like what they like or are attracted to all "types and kinds" of men and women. I agree with Mizz S that most men attracted to trans women are generally straight men with an open mind about sex (and the "junk up front"). I'm bisexual, enjoy sex with both men and women, am very much attracted to trans women, and pretty much live life as a straight man. What does that make me? Peace.
 

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I think I understand the point you are trying to make---and am not trying to argue---but what does it really matter why or what people want to "label" someone who is attracted to or has a "preference" for trans women? People like what they like or are attracted to all "types and kinds" of men and women. I agree with Mizz S that most men attracted to trans women are generally straight men with an open mind about sex (and the "junk up front"). I'm bisexual, enjoy sex with both men and women, am very much attracted to trans women, and pretty much live life as a straight man. What does that make me? Peace.

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haha I totally agree. I have enver been turned down for sex ;) and thats all I will say!

My last statement pretty much coincides with your message.
 
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Well obviously there are bisexual people who like trans women. But generally saying the majority of men who are into trans women are considered heterosexual as they are not into men at all! :))
It is interesting to here that about straight men liking Trans women. It makes sense. I guess I am not that unusual in that sense. I like women and am not overly concerned about their genital type. I find Trans to be a hot mix of masculine and feminine. I haven't had the opportunity to explore intimacy with someone with the best of both genders.
 
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